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Cracker Jax
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Posted: Dec 6th, 2006 03:30 am |
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Oh! Who brought up that point about Dwayne giving money to the town for Christmas cards and the possible conflict of interest? (I can't remember the exact details right now) Somebody recap that for the non-attendees please.
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Posted: Dec 6th, 2006 03:33 am |
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Oh! Who brought up that point about Dwayne giving money to the town for Christmas cards and the possible conflict of interest? (I can't remember the exact details right now) Somebody recap that for the non-attendees please.
Jane, or Hairbrush, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that was Mr Doggett who brought that one up.........and it was a great zinger !!!!!!
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Posted: Dec 6th, 2006 03:46 am |
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Posted: Dec 6th, 2006 06:25 am |
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macca wrote: It all sounds great! Wish I could've been there! I'm proud of all of those who spoke up!!! ♥♥♥
Democracy is alive and well in Summerfield tonight!
Good job folks!
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Posted: Dec 6th, 2006 11:01 am |
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It was nice to see real Summerfield people stand up last night and tell the truth......
Mom got there late and missed all the fun....But she did get there in time to see her boy buy a new tape recorder (without the laptop) for $3900 (I think that was the price). He is not saving the taxpayer any money but now Mom will not have to pay for copies of the town's minutes, she can download them and have her own recording. Well I guess it will save a lot of trees. The problem is we still have the old sound system and only $3900 worth of software...
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Posted: Dec 6th, 2006 11:08 am |
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Did anyone hear Clown Councilman ¢rawford ever apologize fer his behavior?
Pappy's proud o' them Doggets! Proud o' Steve too!
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Posted: Dec 6th, 2006 11:54 am |
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Jim Flynt wrote: Democracy is alive and well in Summerfield tonight!
Democracy was alive and well last night. Thank you to all that spoke! I was proud of everyone of you and especially proud of the Doggett family.
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Posted: Dec 6th, 2006 12:02 pm |
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No, Pappy I didn't hear any apologies.
Just a bunch of head rubb'n.
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Posted: Dec 6th, 2006 12:05 pm |
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Oh you guys are making me blush. I just couldn't keep quiet about what Dwayne had been doing and I told him in my last email that I would bring it before the council. I am sadden that he still couldn't see what he did was wrong. I truly believe he was sincere in wanting to pay me and my sister dinner and start a dialogue, but the only place I am going to discuss matters with him is at town functions and on this board. Here is a copy of the speech. I do have to give credit to my brother, who is the one who will have the PhD in communication.
First I would like to thank the Youth Council for wonderful tree lighting. What a wonderful night for fellowship and good food. It is times like this that show me what a wonderful town we have and we should all be proud.
Unfortunately, I would like to talk about something not so outstanding. I would like to talk about the posting of unauthorized material on our Town Website and the way Mr. Crawford has handled himself since the incident.
Mr. Crawford, with the blessing of the council, had been given permission to update the town’s webpage. It seems that the old webmaster was unable to keep up with our webpage and Mr. Crawford offered to keep up the webpage until the town could hire a new webmaster. Makes sense to me. Mr. Crawford seems to have a lot of knowledge about computer programs and why not use our own talent. The mayor and council were behind it and a couple of people on the Northwest Observer webpage discussed how he seemed very competent. But Mr. Crawford then took it upon himself to post an unapproved flyer and some surveys on the town website. I couldn’t believe he would actually do this. It was discussed on the Northwest Observer webpage about how I believed this was unethical and that I couldn’t believe something would be posted without prior approval from the council. Talk about an abuse of power. If Ms. Strickland thought the mayor was abusing his power by asking the staff to research other town’s PUD’s without council consent then she must be ready to have Mr. Crawford’s head.
It seems to me the logical thing to do would be for Mr. Crawford to explain to the people of Summerfield why he felt the need to post these documents and apologize for his transgression. But that is not what Mr. Crawford did. Instead he sent out an email accusing me of wanting to suppress this historical document. The email was sent to lots of other people and BCC’d to supposedly more. Of course I responded to this email and I posted it on the public Northwest observer forum. I know I should have left it alone, but I felt that Mr. Crawford was trying to bully me into saying that what he did wasn’t that bad and it is bad and unethical.
It seems that Mr. Crawford couldn’t leave it alone either as he then emailed me to let me know why he was concerned with my actual identity on the Northwest observer forum. I quote “What is my concern with the identities of folks on the forum? Ninety percent of the folks who post are of no concern – it is the five to ten percent or so who intentionally post inaccurate or deceptive information and then self-righteously claim their intentions are noble and others who do the same are plain bad people. That these cowards are doing this only because the NWO provides them the anonymity, I have shared this concern with that paper.”
I am not advocating that these documents that Mr. Crawford posted on the town website be suppressed but instead I want the proper channels followed. We expect the mayor to only write checks for items that have been approved in the budget. The council must approve the minutes before they are put up for public view. We ask developers to follow the town ordinances. Is this not what we as a town and the concerned citizens are wanting, responsible government? Don’t we all believe that government should follow the proper channels? We have a historical committee that would be happy to make sure the documents that Mr. Crawford wanted to post on the webpage are authentic and would be kept in a place that all town members could read if so wanted. Also, if Mr. Crawford wanted people to read these documents he could have stuck it over there on the table with the handouts that Ms. Dunham leaves. Of course I think that policy should be ended also, but that is a discussion for another day.
I have never intentionally posted inaccurate or deceptive information on the forum. In fact, Mr. Crawford has pages of my postings dating back to the first of the year where he has taken the time to match what I have written on the forum to what I have said in the council meetings or have written in my editorials. I think Mr. Crawford is using this tactic to try to intimidate me from posting on the forum.
The facts are that Mr. Crawford was elected by some people to represent the town. He now sits on the council. He now represents me even though I did not vote for him. I hold him to the same standard as all other council members. I want him to be ethical, fair, honest, thorough and trustworthy. He broke that trust when he posted unauthorized material on the town’s website. How do I know that he didn’t do other things while he was updated the webpage? How do I trust his word? How do I also know that he is thorough in his town business? He certainly seemed to put a lot of time in discovering who I was on the forum, but does he have the same time for the town? He has broken the town’s trust and now I don’t even know if I can trust the new town webmaster because Mr. Crawford had a hand in picking him out. How can I trust that he has the best interest of the town in mind when he researches recording equipment for the town?
I am disgusted by how Mr. Crawford has handled himself. He made a grave mistake. He needs to own up to it. He does not need to try to intimidate me and infringe on my right of freedom of speech. I did nothing wrong. Mr. Crawford works for me and the town. I do not work for him. If I want to post my opinion about how I think this council is doing on a public discussion forum then I will and I am allowed that right. And I will let you know right here and now that I will not put up with my councilman doing something unethical. And I will certainly point out if I feel him untrustworthy. Mr. Crawford pushed his own agenda by posting those documents on the website. He did not have backing of the council and he didn’t have backing of the town as he didn’t hold a public hearing. When caught in the act he decided to harass a citizen of this town who happens to post on a public discussion board using a username instead of owning up to what he did. That is unethical and it makes him untrustworthy. Thank you.
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Cracker Jax
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Posted: Dec 6th, 2006 12:06 pm |
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FatPappy wrote: Did anyone hear Clown Councilman ¢rawford ever apologize fer his behavior?
Pappy's proud o' them Doggets! Proud o' Steve too!
I believe that after Steve spoke about unapproved documents being placed on the town's website, Crawford said that the council had been "appraised" or "informed" of the incident (don't remember exact wording) and it wouldn't happen again. He did not admit guilt or apologize.
When Hairbrush spoke, she made sure that Crawford's actions were on public record. He still did not apologize. Just offered to buy her dinner.
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Posted: Dec 6th, 2006 12:20 pm |
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No, Pappy I didn't hear any apologies.
Just a bunch of head rubb'n.
Surely he didn't expect that people would just take what he did without responding..... Sounds like it backfired bigtime if he did.... Many thanks to all of you who are standing up to this kind of behavior! ♥♥♥
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Posted: Dec 6th, 2006 01:03 pm |
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Wow, I missed a good one. I couldn't be there due to illness. My wife could tell my butt was on fire and wanted to go to the meeting but I was too sick. Thanks Steve and All the Doggetts I would have loved to see and share this with all. Why did DC not say I am sorry for my actions? Is a bribe to go to dinner an exchange? Well why not take the whole Town to dinner DC?
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Cracker Jax
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Posted: Dec 6th, 2006 02:29 pm |
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Gee... hope you feel better Baseball Buddy!
Another interesting thing Dwayne said during the meeting... Maybe after Hairbrush spoke in reference to Crawford "cross referencing" her postings/editorials etc. He said that he wrote a little computer program that copies the forum while he is away from his computer and then he has it cross reference all this other stuff he has collected about us and it really doesn't take much of his time.
Ok... why?
Why would he need to copy the forum and cross reference what we say if his intention is not to harrass us?
That's just ODD.
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Posted: Dec 6th, 2006 05:41 pm |
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Cracker Jax wrote:
Why would he need to copy the forum and cross reference what we say if his intention is not to harrass us?
Pappy cain't think of any other reason. Reminds me o' the kid who couldn't stack his blocks as purty as the other kids so he knocks theirs down.
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Posted: Dec 6th, 2006 09:12 pm |
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Thanks Steve, Jane, Hairbrush, et. al. - you guys are awesome for standing up for all of us. You said what needed to be said. Unfortunately I don't think Dwayne 'gets it' but I'm sure a lot of other folks do.
Dwayne's electronic analysis of the Forum seems like amature hour at the CIA but it is probably harmless. He spent a lot of time and effort trying to figure out who is who - got some right and got some wrong. In the end what has he accomplished?
Why can't he just join us here on the forum and let's discuss the issues - might save him a lot of dinner money.
SaltyDog - still posting.
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