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DOGGETTJA
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Posted: Nov 28th, 2006 12:03 pm |
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These accusations have been going on for up to 3 years now. "Oh somebody did something wrong." There has never been any proof that anybody on the council has ever done anything other than for the good of the town until now despite the constant scrutiny of 1000 of pages of documents. The lies just keep rolling out from the cc's. A 2.2 million dollar Ampitheater? That is a lie. Total park cost is in that range with hopefully half of it being paid for by the PartF grant.
"The Town council held illegal meetings." That is so a lie. All the closed sessions I was involved in were approved by our attorney at the time. The agenda's were approved and he was in each and every meeting. To my knowledge I never met outside of close session with more than 2 other council members even at the grocery store.
I think the thing that bothers me most about all of this is the implication that until the Concerned Citizens came along the Town was stupid and all the council members were there for their own private gain. Like this skulking around, accusing people , insulting citizens and council members is better.
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FatPappy
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Posted: Nov 28th, 2006 12:23 pm |
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| Beautiful, Jane!
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Posted: Nov 28th, 2006 02:32 pm |
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Selective deductive reasonin'? Lack of reasonin'?
I just think that whole stalkin' thang is creepy. It's just weird an' creepy.
Weird and Creepy is right!!
I received an email at work from DC. I spoke with the IT people there and they are investigating. He has been blocked from sending emails to my work address. Just a thought for those of you who are also recieving unwanted emails.
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Steve Adkins
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Posted: Nov 29th, 2006 12:25 am |
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I am an Engineer, not an MD. However I'm also a Parent who raised a bunch of kids, and paid alot of medical bills, and recognize behaviors when I see them.
My step son (now age 24) was 2 when I married his mother, had/has a variety of mental issues that caused him to be a real pain in adolescence, and a more "sophisticated" pain as an adult. Charms the socks off those who meet him the first time or two, but folks quickly see thru him after a few encounters.
Condition & Behaviors:
ODD - Oppositional Defiance Disorder - "I'm right, you're wrong, and you're stupid" "If you disagree with me, I am going to talk my way in circles trying to beat you down with foolishness, and as I twist the facts in my head during my thought process, I'll start believing them and treat you like you're stupid & you're telling lies when you don't believe my twisted way of thinking. I also cannot stand people talking about me when I'm not around and in control of the discussion. Easily flash to anger. I also become an expert on any given subject soon after I hear it the first time"
OCD - Obsessive Compulsive Disorder - "I get some little miniscule idea in my head, and build it up to be a mountain, then spend inordinate amounts of time justifying the mountain exists" OCD is not just washing your hands 50X/day.
My step son knows his mother & I are many years wise to his behaviors, they are not welcome at our house, or when in a public situation with us. Neither will we back down if he tries to pull any of them on us. The net effect is he still tries to pull them on other unassuming people.
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FatPappy
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Posted: Nov 29th, 2006 12:53 am |
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Much obliged fer the insight, Steve.
Pappy ain't no MD neither, but it don't take much studyin' to see somethin's seriously not right around here. I mean we're talkin' 'bout a duly elected town leader! An' he cain't deal with situations no better than this?
An' they expect people to believe in 'em ag'in next time??!! HA!
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Steve Adkins
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Posted: Dec 2nd, 2006 12:20 pm |
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one other comment on ODD
If you Google it, the lion's share of the articles that pop up would lead the reader to believe the condition is limited to children & adolescents.
If you read the symptoms, it's not too hard to think of some adults who have the same symptoms.
Makes one wonder if some folks never grew up
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DOGGETTJA
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Posted: Dec 4th, 2006 02:56 am |
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| Tuesday night is council meeting. Come on everybody. Lets have some participation at speakers from the floor. Lets start getting some of our concerns in the minutes.
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Posted: Dec 4th, 2006 11:49 am |
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Just noticed on the town agenda and it seems they are having a closed session. Do you think they might be discussings DC unethical behavior? I wonder if BS will ride DC like she has been riding the Mayor. That business about the Mayor having too much power when signing checks and about his supposedly abuse of power when he asked staff to research the PUD is just hogwash. Now we have a real problem and it really needs to be looked at by the council. Wonder if she will be all up in arms about that.
Also I really think the council needs to discuss the cartoon material that Mom has been placing on the table at all the council meetings. I think the only things to be placed on that table should be approved by the Council.
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Posted: Dec 4th, 2006 01:04 pm |
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| what's to keep the first citizen through the door from picking up all the material and accidentally forgetting to share it with anyone else? Easy mistake to make if you ask me.
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Steve Adkins
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Posted: Dec 6th, 2006 02:33 am |
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Good Job Doggett family for nailing Dwayne Crawford squarely between the eyes tonight. It was great to see the family participation.
Dwayne's misbehavior came back to haunt him tonight.
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Posted: Dec 6th, 2006 02:42 am |
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| Steve - I couldn't be there. Please explain
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Cracker Jax
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Posted: Dec 6th, 2006 03:11 am |
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Steve Adkins wrote: Good Job Doggett family for nailing Dwayne Crawford squarely between the eyes tonight. It was great to see the family participation.
Dwayne's misbehavior came back to haunt him tonight.
Good job Steve-O! You did a pretty awesome job addressing the council yourself!
Salty, three members of the Doggett family (and Steve) spoke during the speakers from the floor portion of the meeting and addressed issues that are concerning a lot of citizens, such as the fact that Councilman Crawford's posting of information on the town's website that was not approved by council and the "stalking" of various forum members in an effort to impede their first ammendment rights.
I would like to request that Steve, Hairbrush and any others who spoke post their speeches (or allow them to be posted by someone else) on this forum so that folks who couldn't attend can read them.
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Posted: Dec 6th, 2006 03:16 am |
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Hairbrush Sister first spoke and excoriated Dwayne for posting of unauthorized material on the Summerfield Town Website. She also was critical for the TC's over-gracious reception of Armfield (sp?) property, but rebuffing "welcome to Summerfield" signs by another person. Donations are donations. Her final comment was something like" it would be nice if Mr Crawford could use his time for something more productive than lurking on the forum" (not exact words, but best I can recall). Becky STrickland made a comment that Armfield was a non-profit, and the developer was a for-profit...............Can someone tell me what's the difference when it comes to bettering Summerfield?
Hairbrush then got up and excoriated Dwayne for his recent email trying to unveil those posting on the forum under user names, she spent 5 full minutes without missing one beat castigating him for his misbehavior, his abuse of power, his loss of trust with his constituency, his invasion of privacy. Absolutely awesome presentation. At the end, Dwayne acknowledged he was blocked from sending Hairbrush emails, but invited her & her sister to dinner at his expense to reinstate discussions.
Hairbrush's father then got up, and excoriated Dwayne a 3rd time for sending him an unsolicited email that was critical of his daughters. Said Dwayne was not the kind of leader he wanted representing him. Dwayne made a bumbling excuse about the email mistake, tried to make it sound like an honest mistake.
Dwayne had his tail between his legs for the balance of the meeting. His misbehavior over the past month was made very public tonight. He stated he had written a software program to allow him to "vacuum" the forum for particular commentary over a large period of time.
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Posted: Dec 6th, 2006 03:25 am |
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Here is my comments to the council on 5 December.
Two areas of concern I wish to ask about:
The first is distribution of information at the entrance table. There does not appear to be an approval policy to ensure information distributed on the entrance table at Town Council Meetings is examined & pre-approved. In the past, there have been items of personal opinion distributed with questionable accuracy.
The second is the Summerfield Website. There does not appear to be an approval policy as to what information is posted on the Website. Recently a document which supported the personal opinions of a few was put on the website. Although it was later removed, myself & others saw it, and want to know what actions will be taken to prevent a recurrence. The Website is a fine source of information, Citizens depend on it to contain accurate & appropriate information.
I would like to ask the council if policies do exist in these two areas, if so where they can be viewed, and if not, if they could be developed? These policies are needed to address recent actions of individuals trying to present skewed & misleading information.
(I was directed to call Mike Brandt for answers on Wednesday, so will update you as to what Mike tells me........I am confident Mike will have accurate answers)
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Cracker Jax
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Posted: Dec 6th, 2006 03:27 am |
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Thanks Steve... I forgot about the sign issue that Mary brought up (VERY good point she made, by the way) and the entrance table "coloring pages" that you brought up. Again, great job!
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