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 Posted: Mar 21st, 2007 12:49 am
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Great way of looking at this Sawdust. This action was in a sort childish to a point.



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 Posted: Mar 21st, 2007 01:16 am
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Sawdust wrote: By the way my name is Scott Alexander.  I thought this would save someone the time of "researching" this fact.

Thanks for coming out of the closet! And on behalf of at least one of our council members, I appreciate you saving him some time. Maybe the time saved can be used to focus on other important issues, like long-term planning, purchasing athletic fields, etc.

And no offense, Scott, but I kind of like the name "Sawdust" better -- mind if I keep calling you that?  :D

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 Posted: Mar 21st, 2007 01:29 am
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The time that was spent by DC looking, lurking, vacuuming, hacking,or checking for glitches could be better spent for something positive. If the time our 2 favorite to talk about council members spend on the witch hunts could be used positively for Summerfield we could have an AWESOME town.



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 Posted: Mar 21st, 2007 03:51 pm
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Thank goodness for the actions of Becky Strickland and the CC group.  How lost is the council in it’s obsession to construct the Disney World of Summerfield.  The survey was a joke with no relevance or correlation.  Every time I visit the “Park” it is empty.  Why are we so set on wasting vast sums of $$ (including state support).  What is the obsession with the “Park” and since when is local government responsible for entertainment ??

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 Posted: Mar 21st, 2007 04:49 pm
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every time I visit the park it is pretty busy. I will be there tomorrow and saturday. I will yell "doggoneit" when I get there so you can come play with us.

Oh, I have gone by there at like 3 am and there are hardly any people out there. Only a few shadows doing something with wrenches and screwdrivers last time I went by late late at night.

-just kidding about the wrenches and screws part. Dont send the cops to question me.



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 Posted: Mar 21st, 2007 04:51 pm
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doggoneit wrote: Thank goodness for the actions of Becky Strickland and the CC group.  How lost is the council in it’s obsession to construct the Disney World of Summerfield.  The survey was a joke with no relevance or correlation.  Every time I visit the “Park” it is empty.  Why are we so set on wasting vast sums of $$ (including state support).  What is the obsession with the “Park” and since when is local government responsible for entertainment ??


Welcome to the forum doggoneit! :D


I have a couple of questions for you if you don't mind.


What time of day are you riding by the park and how often? 


What has the council tried to build that reminds you of Disneyworld?


You say thank heavens for the actions of the CC group.  Does that mean that you approve of Strickland's attempts to sabatoge the PartF grant?


Do you approve of Crawford's potentially illegal activities with regard to the forum and it's participants?


What exactly is the council wasting money on that has not been a direct result of something that Crawford and Strickland have done?


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I challenge you to ride the park on any given day (when it is not pouring down rain) during the afternoon hours when the children are out of school and report back to us that you do not see the park being used.  If you do so, we will have to wonder if you are being untruthful or if perhaps you need to clean your glasses.


The "obsession" with the park is a result of YEARS of hard work by residents in this town who are nearing their goal in hopes that they can give something beautiful back to the community. This work began LONG before the concerned citizens and their mouthful of lies invaded our town and there was little or NO opposition until they came along. 


I hope that you will research the park issue further and not just listen to their side of the story.


BTW....I'm thinkin' that a Space Mountain type facility over on that Summerfield Road property might be just the ticket! ;) 


 



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 Posted: Mar 21st, 2007 06:36 pm
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doggoneit wrote: Thank goodness for the actions of Becky Strickland and the CC group.  How lost is the council in it’s obsession to construct the Disney World of Summerfield.  The survey was a joke with no relevance or correlation.  Every time I visit the “Park” it is empty.  Why are we so set on wasting vast sums of $$ (including state support).  What is the obsession with the “Park” and since when is local government responsible for entertainment ??
Get off that "Its a small world" ride. Everyone had a chance to fill out a survey or attend a meeting. Every time (when school is out and no rain) I go by the park there is someone at the park. I have seen people using the trail. People have told me that if the trail was paved all the way, they would be able to use the rest of it. There is no waste here, it is a investment into Summerfield's future. That is what a responsible government does for the people.......

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 Posted: Mar 21st, 2007 06:45 pm
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I think I should not pay for the Stokesdale fire dept or EMS because I've never used either of those two services.

The FD sure does make some good bbq though. I plan on stopping by there on saturday to pick some up.

--and NO I am not plugging the FD. I have no affiliation with them. I just like to eat. haha.



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 Posted: Mar 21st, 2007 06:45 pm
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Pappy don't think "entertainment" is quite the right word for our park. I think of it as more along the lines o' wholesome family fun, healthy recreation, sense o' community...that sort o' thing.

On t'other hand, when I think o' government sponsored entertainment these days, I cain't he'p but think o' Strickland an' Crawford.

I agree, Mr Mike. I see at least one person out an' about at the park almost ever' time I go by. There's just about always some young'uns and their parents on the playground if it's decent out.



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 Posted: Mar 21st, 2007 08:15 pm
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doggoneit wrote: Thank goodness for the actions of Becky Strickland and the CC group.  How lost is the council in it’s obsession to construct the Disney World of Summerfield.  The survey was a joke with no relevance or correlation.  Every time I visit the “Park” it is empty.  Why are we so set on wasting vast sums of $$ (including state support).  What is the obsession with the “Park” and since when is local government responsible for entertainment ??

Well, I am waiting to hear your ingenious ideas?

Summerfield has over 9 million dollars. I am glad to see it improving the community and being used like it was collected to do. Where I come from, we call it investing -- not wasting.

As for the state money: The state already earmarked money for parks. If Summerfield didn't get that money, someone else would. What do you think they would do with it? THEY WOULD BUILD A PARK! That's my tax dollars, and I am glad to see them coming back to me, FINALLY, instead of, say, Oak Ridge, Raleigh, Ashboro.

Now, excuse me while I go for my daily walk in the park. I am looking forward to your reply when I get back.



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 Posted: Mar 21st, 2007 08:29 pm
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don't forget to yell "doggoneit" while you are there.



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 Posted: Mar 21st, 2007 11:26 pm
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doggoneit wrote:  The survey was a joke with no relevance or correlation. 


 

Doggoneit: Puh-leeze don't pop the bubble for folks around here. They actually believe that 'survey' means something (even though in their hearts they know you're right). Let 'em at least continue to live in Fantasyland until after the next election.

You see it is like this: A majority of the town council is going to play softball with the citizens and a majority of the voters are going to play hardball with the town council on Election Day. (But puh-leeze keep this a secret and don't tell anyone I told you so).


 

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 Posted: Mar 22nd, 2007 01:20 am
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EditorPS wrote: Sawdust wrote: By the way my name is Scott Alexander.  I thought this would save someone the time of "researching" this fact.

Thanks for coming out of the closet! And on behalf of at least one of our council members, I appreciate you saving him some time. Maybe the time saved can be used to focus on other important issues, like long-term planning, purchasing athletic fields, etc.

And no offense, Scott, but I kind of like the name "Sawdust" better -- mind if I keep calling you that?  :D



No problem! Call me what you would like.  I... simply... do not appreciate the fact that people (especially elected officials) take it upon themselves to "investigate" loopholes in software or "bypass" due process.  It smells and it smells BAD! To "bypass" (Strickland) does not seem to be anything less than unethical... not illegal.  However, I believe, it IS ILLEGAL (Crawford - Innocent until proven guilty) to hack into a public domain and attempt to "exploit" this information.  We must ask ourselves ...why?....................I will leave with this thought.......WHY?

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 Posted: Mar 22nd, 2007 01:31 am
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I guess it's all in your perspective, Sawdust -- while some ask "Why?" others ask "Why not?"

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doggoneit wrote:  The survey was a joke with no relevance or correlation.

Some might say the election of Strickland and Crawford was a joke with no relevance or correlation to a true representation of support from Summerfield residents. Because of what I view as mis-representations and outright lies in the pre-election letters mailed out by the CCs and the low voter turnout it could be that a small minority of voters dominated the election.

But those opposed to the views of the CCs could have sent out their own letters and more folks could have voted. Those are the rules, you have an election and Strickland and Crawford won so that's that.

The three council members who support the park were also elected. The council voted 3 to 2 to move forward with the park. Those are the rules, Summerfield will have a park so that's that.

Councilwoman Strickland was on the losing side of the park issue and wanted to do an end run around the council with her letters to the state trying to derail matching funds. Jim Flynt has suggested Summerfield needs to have a referendum about the park. Perhaps some others think we should have a referendum about whether Strickland and Crawford should remain on the council.

Why don't we all just play by the rules and accept the results and seek to change what we don't like in the next election.

Last edited on Mar 22nd, 2007 01:52 am by SaltyDog



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