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Sawdust
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Posted: Mar 28th, 2007 01:27 am |
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Jim how is it you speak for "peace" yet you continuously come across as sarcastic, even condescending at times? You say you are not affiliated with any "group" yet you come down hard on a specific side and do not seem to budge. As a "Free Thinker" certainly, you can understand that you may not always be correct yet you put words in others mouths such as "it is obvious to see..." and you continuously tell them there is another side to be considered. People on this forum are not as ignorant as you seem to assert in your text.
To quote you: "What is important is that we all respect the dictates of the majority of voters in the last election and make sure we understand the message those voters were sending. It is important that the larger message for change from the last election not be forgotten nor have fallen on deaf ears. Voters have a way of remembering things even when politicians don't."
Correct! It is not only the last election we must respect but also the small ones in between. I do not mind a dissenting argument or vote. That will happen. We do not live in Utopia. However, I do mind the fact that those on the minority side of a vote take action to sabotage the overall process.
This thread was begun, simply, to question the tactics of certain council members. This was prior to the - "PartF" paper (unethical) and "CyberSpying" (Illegal?) scandals. Since then, these actions have simply driven home the point. The Point being it does not seem these members have actually accepted the fact that they can win an election and still be a minority in certain circumstances. They are unable to deal with this fact.
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Posted: Mar 28th, 2007 02:13 am |
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Sawdust, I might just have to see if Pappy'll let you borrow his "Hero hat" for a while, cause you're my hero for the day! Shamu, you came close with that tolling bell line though! Too funny! Woo Hoo!
Thanks to Sawdust for getting us back on the topic that we came here to discuss... The Concerned Citizens
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Jim Flynt
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Posted: Mar 28th, 2007 10:12 am |
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Sawdust, we simply disagree in our hearts and with our hearts on Summerfield issues.
I simply believe that the good people of Summerfield deserve better than what either side is presenting in their war of words, name calling and finger pointing. And you obviously don't.
One is either part of a problem or part of a solution. I simply remain committed to seeking solutions and you simply remain part of creating problems.
While I could otherwise dissect your comments and point out the fallacies of logic in your reasoning, in the interest of seeking higher ground in any discussion, I simply refuse to lower myself to the baser expectations of an elitist though minority mob gone mad. I am aware as well of mob thinking and mob anger directed at those who would have the audacity to disagree with their positions or challenge the veracity of their statements. My hide is thick enough, my ego strong enough and my intellect keen enough to more than adequately see past such small minded thinking. And I have enough forgiveness in my heart to move past it toward constructive solutions.
Obviously, you cannot see beyond your own innate bias and anger, so feel free to read your own prejudices into my thoughts and statements as you see fit. It will only serve to feed the mob's hunger and stoke their fires for even more vengeance and revenge against anyone seen as an opponent, which I am not, simply in that I have NO DOG in this fight.
Quite frankly, the words and deeds on both sides continue to bring great shame and disgrace to the respective interests of each and all and remain unflattering to an otherwise wonderful community which deserves better.
You still have another 950 or so days to engage in your negativism and name calling and finger pointing, so please enjoy it even as you drive a majority of wonderful Summerfield citizens to anger and despair toward all sides of a divisive government and divided community. And calling it 'positive fact based response' only adds to the humor and irony and amusement for citizens with minds and men and women of conscience.
I simply think there is a better way. May God help you find it.
Last edited on Mar 28th, 2007 12:05 pm by Jim Flynt
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FatPappy
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Posted: Mar 28th, 2007 01:08 pm |
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Pappy appreciates your post, Sawdust. You're right, we are smart enough to see what's going on. Certain council members found what they apparently thought was a "better way" to get their agenda passed, but I don't believe it was God who helped them find it. For condemning the improper actions of our elected officials we have been ridiculed as if the offense was ours.
Hang in there!
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Posted: Mar 28th, 2007 01:33 pm |
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CROIKEE! Look what the Crocodile Hunter found on the NWO homepage.
http://www.nwobserver.com/newsfeed/?p=1262
CRAWFORD RESIGNS FROM SFTC!
Guess Macca PI is slipping since I found it first.
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Posted: Mar 28th, 2007 01:41 pm |
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Posted: Mar 28th, 2007 01:51 pm |
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Well.
huh.
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I'm speechless....
YAY?
Thank you Dwayne?
Moving right along... Now what? Does the council appoint the next member? Will that member complete Crawford's full term or will that member just sit on the council until the next election?
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Posted: Mar 28th, 2007 01:51 pm |
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| It wasn't intended to be funny. Here's the thing, what happened with Dwayne is a reflection on all of us and effects all of us. Witty, maybe. Funny, not intended.
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Posted: Mar 28th, 2007 01:56 pm |
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Cracker Jax wrote:
Will that member complete Crawford's full term or will that member just sit on the council until the next election?
OMG!!
Good question CJ. I would like to know this myself. 
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Posted: Mar 28th, 2007 01:57 pm |
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You are correct Shamu. It is a reflection on all of us and it does effect all of us.
All we (the forum participants) were doing however is stating our opinions on the behavior of the two concerned citizens who were sitting on the council at the time. It is our right to do so. I think Pappy nailed it when he said that we are being ridiculed as if the offense were ours.
It is not our offense. In Dwayne's case, it was his mistake to harass us and in Strickland's case I certainly think the PartF letter was her mistake.
We knew on election day that the bell tolled for Summerfield. Sorry I laughed at your wittiness. Last edited on Mar 28th, 2007 08:56 pm by Cracker Jax
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Posted: Mar 28th, 2007 01:57 pm |
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Believe it or not, I think it's a shame that it had to come to this. On the other hand, it couldn't have gone on like it was going, so I'm glad in that sense.
Good questions, Crackah.
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Posted: Mar 28th, 2007 02:05 pm |
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NWO:A special meeting will be held on March 29 at 6:30 p.m. at the Summerfield Town Hall so the council can discuss how to fill the vacancy left by Crawford’s resignation.
I know the other council members will do their very best to take care of the situation. I wonder when the new councilman will take his/her seat?
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Posted: Mar 28th, 2007 02:20 pm |
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I do have to say Kudos to Dwayne. I think he did the right thing. The town needs to get back to town business and his actions were just taking us off task. We need to be thinking about the budget, how to get phase II of the park completed, and how to get the change of government (going from council-mayor to council-manager) on the ballot.
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Posted: Mar 28th, 2007 02:22 pm |
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FatPappy wrote: Believe it or not, I think it's a shame that it had to come to this. On the other hand, it couldn't have gone on like it was going, so I'm glad in that sense.
I agree Pappy. It is VERY sad that it has come to this.
I'm about to be magnanimous here...I know - shocker.
I remember way back after the election, posting that I thought Dwayne had potential. I was trying to talk myself into making the best of the situation that we found ourselves in after the election and I truly hoped that we could find middle ground.
I liked that Dwayne brought new ideas to the table and that he forced us to think outside of the box at times. At the time I hoped that he would listen to all of the citizens and not just his constituents. I really felt that he would.
I think that he just got caught up in the megalomaniacial entity that is Strickland and felt that he and his cause were untouchable. In the process, he felt that it was ok to attack citizens and other council members. That is not ok Dwayne.
While I don't condone what he did to the NWO forum or any of it's participants, I do appreciate the time he was willing to donate to the town. I would also hope that if he is not charged with a crime and continues a career in politics, that he learns from this experience and will listen to all of the citizens - whether or not they voted for him.
I know that I have certainly learned from the experience.
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Posted: Mar 28th, 2007 02:42 pm |
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FatPappy wrote: Believe it or not, I think it's a shame that it had to come to this. On the other hand, it couldn't have gone on like it was going, so I'm glad in that sense.
Pappy, believe it or not, I am in complete agreement with your statement.
Now may the healing so desperately needed by all of Summerfield begin.
Last edited on Mar 28th, 2007 02:47 pm by Jim Flynt
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