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DOGGETTJA
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 Posted: Nov 17th, 2006 01:45 am
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WTG- I believe the unauthorized material was removed the first of the week. I did not see it was just PM'd by several people who did. I am disturbed that in all the years we have had a website this has never been a problem until now.

The Concerned Citizens ran on a plank of trust. The Town is spending a $1,000, because DC wanted open honest government, to tell you your garbage service is going up 3.8% or maybe 45 cents, but it is ok for him a members of the concerned citizens/ council member to put his own agenda on the Town's website without authorization. It just blows my mind.

The NCLM is the NC legue of Municipalities. They are a think tank and organization that assists municipalities in running their towns efficiently and legally. Great people. Great service. Very helpful. Not sure whether they run websites or not. Certainly somebody in the town would have to do the day to day entrees and somebody hopefully the Town Council in total would decide what is included on the website.

Hopes that catches you up.

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 Posted: Nov 17th, 2006 01:47 am
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Maybe the Town Administor, but it's a big job, Can he just forward email reports to NCLM. Can they maintain it?


probably a web master is needed? Just my opinion, but I have a hard time with the trust thing with DC involved.

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 Posted: Nov 17th, 2006 01:52 am
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Waytago wrote: DOGGETTJA wrote:  Unauthorized material appearing on the Town website.
I have to admit I don't understand.  I went thru the website, and was not able to pick out what you are indicating is unauthorized.   Would you pls elaborate?

I'm not challenging what you're saying, just trying to understand.   Thx.  WTG

Several months ago, Dwayne requested that he be allowed by the council to "update" the town's website because it was terribly out of date.


The council, being the trusting souls that they are, allowed it and now he has access to the behind the scenes working of the town's website.


On Tuesday, folks who visited the front page of the town's site (to look for the TC agenda or whatever) were treated to a document that the Concerned Citizens bring out from time to time stating that SF wouldn't charge a tax.


Today when I checked, the document was no longer there.



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 Posted: Nov 17th, 2006 01:58 am
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Funny thing about that document- After the words no taxes, it said we get enough from the county that we won't need any taxes and if we did- the council could up taxes by .20 before they would have to get a public vote on it.

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It is funny Bubba, that they always leave that part out when they are using it in their grandstanding. Typical.


Obviously, you remember that back when that document was written, we were receiving money from the county.  The county took that money away after we incorporated.


Just to remind people, we are charged a tax because the county won't give us any money unless we are taxed by the town.  If we had no tax, we wouldn't get ANY money from them.



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 Posted: Nov 17th, 2006 02:29 am
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DOGGETTJA wrote: WTG- I believe the unauthorized material was removed the first of the week. I did not see it was just PM'd by several people who did.

Obviously, since I wasn't the one PM'ing Jane about the suspect documents, other people saw it too.  I am very happy to hear that!



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 Posted: Nov 17th, 2006 02:31 am
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No Cracker you didn't tell me. I got several messages from people after I naively posted about DC being allowed to work on the website. How dumb am I?

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 Posted: Nov 17th, 2006 03:45 am
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One thing I do know about you Jane is that you are no dummy!!!! 


We were all naive once. 


Back when we were happy and proud of our town.


Back when folks offered favors and didn't have their own political reasons for offering.


Back when we weren't afraid that someone was going to mangle every word that we wrote or spoke.



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 Posted: Nov 17th, 2006 11:06 am
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IMHO, it must take a truly miserable person to try to ruin what has been a creative and entertaining outlet.

GOLDEN RULE?

FREEDOM OF SPEECH?

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 Posted: Nov 17th, 2006 12:33 pm
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If that childish oaf wants a playground, let him come on here an' play.

He needs to keep his stinkin' hands off the town website! Even I got sense enough to know that's a serious no-no!

Is that an impeachable offense?

What has Dwayne done for this town except promote his own twisted personal agenda? What's he doin', tryin' to vicariously get even with ever'body who picked on him in high school?

Somethin' ain't right there...



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 Posted: Nov 17th, 2006 12:36 pm
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Here is an email that was forwarded to me.  Seems that DC was calling people out.  I only changes I made was to leave everyones name out.  See what you think.  It is  a little long but worth reading. 

 

Dwayne, I don’t know who you think you are but you have the wrong person, but since you have decided to harass me then here you go. 

 

You were somehow voted by some of the people in the Town of Summerfield to sit on the council.  With that comes some trust.  I don’t have any problems with the document, but I do have problems with someone just posted a document on a town run website without proper channels being followed.  You are trying to be a bully and I am tired of it.  You speak like you speak for the whole town and that is just not true.  Get over yourself. 

 

You once said a long time back that you didn’t want things to be political yet you just can’t help yourself.  That flyer is way outdated and without all the information.  If the county hadn’t decided to take our money away then you are right we would not need a tax, but if we are going to act a like a town then we need some income.  And oh let’s talk about sweat equity that you are so big on.  I get every morning so I can work my 40 to 50 hour job so that I can pay my taxes to the government.  That is my sweat equity and I happen to want a park and a few other things in this town and am that wrong.  Hell No!!!!!!! I am a tax paying citizen who takes her voting very seriously (that is why you didn’t get my vote).  So don’t talk to me about whether I put my sweat equity in.  I work hard to afford the home and things I have and I pay my property taxes.  At least I am not frivolous spending a $1000 so that the town can waste its time informing me that my garbage service is going to up.  Imagine what we could really do with that money. 

 

You know why don’t you just take your document and put it out on the table at the council meetings with your chicken scratch on it and make sure you don’t tell the whole story like Ms. Dunham does.  You know that is really classy.

 

I have an even better idea.  Why don’t you expand your horizon and attempt to meet the members of the town that you don’t think understand your point of view.  Calling them at 9:30 at night when someone gets up around 5:00 in the morning to start their day just doesn’t cut it.  You know as a town we do wonderful things like the Christmas tree lighting, founder’s day and I would have been happy to have conservation at the park opening but you didn’t seem to stick around long enough. 

 

You don’t know better than me and you can’t decide what I need without attempting to get to know me and this childish game of I know who you are and I am going to tell everyone is just in plain bad taste.  Grow up!!!!!

 

You know, you guys really tickle my funny bone....

That document you're referring to over on the forum (
http://nwobserver.mywowbb.com) is an authentic piece of Summerfield history.  As one of the two principal founders, Bill Peterson possesses and occasionally passes to me many useful/interesting documents related to the Town of Summerfield.  That 'unauthorized material' you all are having such a wonderful time shredding to pieces is just one of many such documents.  It is legitimate, it is the essence of our founding, and as much as you may wish it didn't exist, IT IS an inescapable part of this town's history.  The document and the email Bill sent to me to convey it, I now forward to you - both are unaltered from original.

Now let me get this straight, it is your position (all of you on the TO list) that this document SHOULD NOT BE posted on our town web site where all citizens can find it?   In other words, you wish to oppress this document, right?  If so, please, please, give me that in writing.

Dwayne

P.S.  This email includes dozens of BCC recipients.


 

I was cleaning my hard drive and found the attachment.  I think I remember saying I'd send you a copy of the flyers  but I don't remember doing it.  I have a few different renditions still on my computer.  The attachment is typical

 

let me know if you want the others

 

 

 

 

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 Posted: Nov 17th, 2006 12:37 pm
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I would say I've lost trust in him but I never had any to lose.



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 Posted: Nov 17th, 2006 12:49 pm
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Hairbrush wrote:
 

Now let me get this straight, it is your position (all of you on the TO list) that this document SHOULD NOT BE posted on our town web site where all citizens can find it?   In other words, you wish to oppress this document, right?  If so, please, please, give me that in writing.

Dwayne

P.S.  This email includes dozens of BCC recipients.

 




OOOOHHH, it's a scary trap! How will we ever get out of it?

Dwayne, I don't know if I'm on the TO list or not, but I wish you would get something straight. ANYTHING. It is my position that YOU do not get to decide ON YOUR OWN what goes on the town website. That's the point. I don't care if you do have a note from your Mom or not.

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 Posted: Nov 17th, 2006 12:54 pm
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Exactly, putting stuff on the website without proper channels is pushing your own agenda and it is wrong to use a town service for that. 

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Thanks fer postin' that, Hairbrush!



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