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Posted: Nov 15th, 2006 12:56 pm |
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Too bad ol' Dwayne don't read the forum (wink, wink) so he could see you agreein' with him, Jane. Hee hee!
I'd hate for the town website to be taken over by the CC the way the town meetin's have been. I wish I felt more trust toward 'em.
On the other hand, the website has been in pretty bad shape. I wouldn't mind seein' somebody take it under their wing an' make somethin' more useful out of it.
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Posted: Nov 15th, 2006 01:03 pm |
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Sorry, this is a long one.....
There was also a discussion about potential land for our ball fields last night.
One parcel is approximately 20 acres located on 220 where there was an auto salvage yard (Mark said the cost was $33,000 - $36,000 per acre) Because of the nature of the businesses housed on this land, an environmental study would be needed to see what costs, if any, would be necessary to clean the land. This piece is rectangular and well suited for ball parks.
The other is approximately 25 acres ($26,000 per acre) on Summerfield Road owned by Mr. Friddle. The layout of this piece is not "rectangular" and it is unknown if ball fields would even fit on this parcel. Someone also holds the first right of refusal on this land and that would need to be relinquished before the town considers negotiations.
Bob Williams wanted to look at both properties in order to save time and get the ball fields started sooner. If one piece wouldn't work for some reason, then we wouldn't have to wait until the next council meeting to direct Michael B. to research the other piece. Bob's reasoning, I think, was that it isn't going to cost us anything to look at the Friddle property (other than Michael's time) and if Bill Hill (a.k.a. CJ's hero) could look at the first right of refusal issue, then things would be in place to move on the Friddle property if the 220 land falls thru.
Williams also made an excellent point about the 220 land. He stated that we needed to obtain our own "first right of refusal" on the 220 property before we spend thousands of dollars on an environmental study. We don't want to do the leg work and spend thousands of dollars for clean up and then some developer comes in at the last minute and buys that land.... Mark seemed upset by that. He said that the owners aren't planning to sell to anyone else. Problem is, you just can't trust people these days.
Bob Williams stated that he owned property near the Friddle land and that sure, he'd prefer to see houses next to his land, but the need for ballfields outweighed his "wants" and if this was the piece of land that worked, then he was all for it.
Strickland, who stated that she has always been a "proponent" of ball fields (ok.. am I the only one who is surprised by that statement?), asked that we do everything we can to "speed up the process" and only look at the 220 land......the MORE EXPENSIVE parcel.
The fact that Strickland didn't want to even look at the Friddle property makes one wonder why....
Could it be because she lives around the corner and doesn't want ball fields in her backyard? I believe we've heard that before.
There's much more info on the council meeting posted on the other website. PM me if you need the address. 
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Posted: Nov 15th, 2006 01:22 pm |
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HB You are on a roll this morning. I think what has happened to the 90 acres that was the original park offering is they will need it for off site septic in the next phase. I think what happened is when they made the offer to begin with they didn't realize how much good soils was on that 90 acres. They thought it was flood plain, gullies and unusable for development.
I think this 39 acres being offered is much better for what the town needs but still they didn't do this out of the goodness of their heart or any civic responsibility.
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Posted: Nov 15th, 2006 02:19 pm |
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Thanks for the other posting, CJ. Very enlightening. ♥♥♥
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Posted: Nov 15th, 2006 03:30 pm |
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Cracker Jax wrote:
Strickland, who stated that she has always been a "proponent" of ball fields (ok.. am I the only one who is surprised by that statement?), asked that we do everything we can to "speed up the process" and only look at the 220 land......the MORE EXPENSIVE parcel.
Good post, Crackah. Sorry to take so long respondin', but I musta blacked out fer a little bit after readin' that proponent part.
She does seem awful eager to direct our attention up yon way on 220. Since we got a bird theme goin' today, mebbe it's like them curlews that nest on the ground. If anybody gets too close to their nest, they'll act like they got a broke wing an' try an' lure the intruder away with what looks like a easy target.
I dunno.
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Posted: Nov 15th, 2006 04:05 pm |
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Hairbrush wrote:
And what is up with Dwayne wanting Michael to take time out of his day and take money out of my pocket by sending out a letter saying our garbage bill is going up. I think that Republic can handle that just fine and if I don't won't to pay the .45 then I will just cancel my contract. And BS called us town members stupid.
Good post, HB. His entire raison d'etre as a council member seems to involve personal agendas an' silly little "gotchas" that he wants other people to pay for.
Well, looky thar. I just happen to have 45 cents right here in my pocket! Hee hee! Now I can afford to throw away that Illinois Taxpayer mailer I got.
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Posted: Nov 15th, 2006 06:39 pm |
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DOGGETTJA wrote:
I think this 39 acres being offered is much better for what the town needs but still they didn't do this out of the goodness of their heart or any civic responsibility.
They could at least up it to 40 acres an' throw in a mule.
You'd think they would have been given a harder time over it. That's the time when BS should holler at a developer.
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Posted: Nov 15th, 2006 07:06 pm |
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I agree. What is the big deal about this developer. Didn't other developers put in trails. I think the vineyards hook into the trail system and I think Henson Forest might have trails though I am not sure about that. And then they wanted (BS & DC) to hold a public hearing so the public could say what "I don't think the town should take the land", but yet they didn't want a public hearing for the PUD? Come on now at least be consistent.
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Posted: Nov 15th, 2006 10:50 pm |
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Thanks for all the updates
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Posted: Nov 16th, 2006 11:54 am |
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Scuba Jane, I tossed and turned all night thinking about DC and that website. I think actually the wind kept me up. I thought I was in the land of Oz and imagine my disappointment when I got up this morning and didn't see a pair of pink shoes sticking out of my foundation, but back on topic. I certainly agree that DC ought to be on the committee to help decide on the town's web designer. He seems to have tons of knowledge, but I really worry about a council person having the ability to edit the website. What if he decided to put up something about his own agenda on the website or to change information to mislead the public. I hate to think something like that would happen in Summerfield. But then again I never knew people could be so nasty to other people and still get elected, so go figure.
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Posted: Nov 16th, 2006 11:42 pm |
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HB Ok so beat me for thinking the best of people. I understand that allowing the fox to guard the hen house is not a good idea and what you all warned about has already in fact happened. Unauthorized material appearing on the Town website. I am disappointed that when it comes to the good of the community that people can not step above their political leanings and we come together as a community.
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Posted: Nov 17th, 2006 12:00 am |
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DOGGETTJA wrote: Unauthorized material appearing on the Town website.
I have to admit I don't understand. I went thru the website, and was not able to pick out what you are indicating is unauthorized. Would you pls elaborate?
I'm not challenging what you're saying, just trying to understand. Thx. WTG
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Posted: Nov 17th, 2006 12:34 am |
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Hairbrush wrote:
I certainly agree that DC ought to be on the committee to help decide on the town's web designer. He seems to have tons of knowledge, but I really worry about a council person having the ability to edit the website.
I personally do not want anyone in the town hall overseeing the website- as far as updating or maintaining- Why not use the NCLM a nice third party with no political agendas or inside hacking abilities? I know it would cost a little more, but I like the idea of NCLM it would help us be contacted to others in NC.
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Posted: Nov 17th, 2006 12:43 am |
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Bubba wrote: Why not use the NCLM a nice third party with no political agendas or inside hacking abilities? I know it would cost a little more, but I like the idea of NCLM it would help us be contacted to others in NC.
Dang, I'm starting to feel like a dumb-bell tonight.
Can you elaborate on what NCLM is, and how they would better fit in as a web site administrator pls?
Thx WTG
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Posted: Nov 17th, 2006 01:40 am |
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Sorry Waytago...We don't want anyone to feel like that!!!
NCLM is the North Carolina League of Municipalities. Oak Ridge uses them to maintain their website and SF tossed around the idea of using them until Dwayne suggested our very own "firecracker" (NWO website designer, Scott Redmon) for the job.
The only problem I see with Bubba's suggestion is that someone from Town Hall has to feed the info to the NCLM.
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