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Posted: Jun 19th, 2006 11:59 am |
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Maybe if DC and BS would come to some of the events that they have been invited they would know how important ball fields are to the citizens. DC was all worried about the vandalism that might take place on the new summerfield signs, well without something for these kids to do I am sure there will be trouble in the town. Also kids that participate in sports have better self esteem and better confidence about themselves. Isn't this who we want as adults? Also obesity in children is out of control. Organize sports help with this and make them healthy children and adults. Seems like ball fields are pretty important to this town.
And putting the vote to a referendum is just crazy. The survey stated that we needed active recreation areas. There was talk in the meeting that we probably wouldn't even be approved to have the referendum added to the ballot because the town has the money. So now are we not only wasting my town tax money but they are wasting my state tax money. I think council should have taken BS up on her deal to go ahead and vote because talking to the public wasn't going to make any difference. Everyone already knew how they were going to vote. I would have been upset that we are spending so much money on av equipment but at least we could start the search for ballfields. I think I could have lived with that.
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Posted: Jun 19th, 2006 04:10 pm |
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Good points, Hairbrush!
It's clear we have the public desire for ballfields an' parks. It's clear we have the means to accomplish these worthy goals. It's also clear BS an' DC don't care what the people have to say about it. Their "Champion of the People" act is a joke.
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Posted: Jun 19th, 2006 08:00 pm |
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WILL DC AND BS VOTE NO FOR SUMMERFIELD KIDS
ITS TIME TO VOTE YES FOR THE CHILDREN OF SUMMERFIELD
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Lacka
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Posted: Jun 20th, 2006 11:59 pm |
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Hairbrush wrote: Maybe if DC and BS would come to some of the events that they have been invited they would know how important ball fields are to the citizens. DC was all worried about the vandalism that might take place on the new summerfield signs, well without something for these kids to do I am sure there will be trouble in the town. Well said HB.
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FatPappy
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Posted: Jun 21st, 2006 12:13 pm |
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Well, looks like Mom's kids are goin' up ag'in Summerfield's kids tomorrow night.
Councilmembers, y'all know these young'uns need ballfields. Y'all know the people are for it. Y'all know we have the means.
It's time fer some people to stop pretendin' that the question is whether we want ballfields or not. That question's been answered!
YES!
Time to move on to the next question an' start figgerin' out the details of where an' how we're gonna build it.
This ain't no build-it-an'-they-will-come Field o' Dreams. They're already here! So let's build it!
Let's build them young'uns somethin' decent that we can all be proud of before they're all older'n Pappy!
I wanna feel proud we did what was right, instead o' kowtowin' to the petty naysayers. Please don't let them tangle things up with their spurious arguments an' silly resolutions that have no purpose but to stall an' sidetrack an' waste good people's precious time. The fact that they claim to do it in the name o' the people is particularly offensive to me!
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Lacka
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Posted: Jun 21st, 2006 01:17 pm |
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Well since I don't see Crackah here I will Just go ahead and say it for everyone.
Pappy you are our HERO
My concern with tomorrow nights meeting is that some council members will have their followers come in to speak against the ballfields. I have witnessed in the past that certain citizens have been prompted as to what to say and when and to say it.
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Posted: Jun 21st, 2006 01:44 pm |
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| Thank You Lacka! Well Said.
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Posted: Jun 21st, 2006 10:39 pm |
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| Yes Lacka but hopefully there will be more people saying they want ballfields and maybe there will be some kids there to talk who actually are trying to play on the current fields or have to go out of the community because there isn't room. Hopefully the SRA is taking this very seriously and will come out enmass along with all the others who want the Town to continue with the goal of providing parks ( lets don't forget we need phase 2 of our park finished) and ball fields for those who need them.
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Posted: Jun 22nd, 2006 06:59 pm |
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REMINDER
MEETING TONIGHT
SUMMERFIELD SCHOOL CAFETERIA
6:30 P.M.
PLEASE COME IF YOU CAN, SEATS WILL FILL UP EARLY
It is about time for “Mom” to throw out a freedom of information request, wouldn’t that be typical?
Jane I hope all people take the meeting serious. Especially SRA and Park supporters. After the number of voters that we had turn out to vote, I just wonder if people are sitting back with no clue of what goes on in our town. It seems that a lot of people just assume that parks and ball fields will happen. You know when you hear the words Budget Meeting, it really does sound boring. Maybe we should change the name of the meeting to something that sounds like it would be more fun to attend.
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Posted: Jun 23rd, 2006 02:34 am |
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Bravo to Summerfield TC for passing the budget tonight!!!!! Good Job Dena, Bob, and Carolyn in looking to the future. Good Job Mayor Mark for keeping control of the meeting. Mike & Dana, good answers. Dwayne & Becky, good job holding your chairs on the floor, period. (Oh, yeah, Dwayne, nice tie)
For those who were unable to attend, tonight was the ultimate in BS and DC trying to muddy the waters & spin total confusion into a process that they are charged with executing in a responsible manner. Disgusting.
There was a steady stream of people who spoke in favor of the ballfield expenditure. There were even people without kids who spoke in favor of it. Just overwhelming support........hmmmm, similar to what a recent survey indicated ????
Couple of the CC group got up to say "ballfields Yes, spend tax money No". Gail Dunham tried to over-run her limit, Mark shut her down......good job Mark.
Dena made a comment about "if, for example, there were 4 ballfields", Becky tried to twist it around into "who mandated 4 ballfields?". Dena let her have it with both barrels........Good Job Dena. Becky, don't try to twist your fellow TC members words around........very insulting to them, and they're very sharp people, much smarter than you give them credit for.
Dwayne came up with half baked ideal about issuing "revenue bonds", he had just discovered it 1/2 hour before. Puts the entire responsibility onto the SRA to pay the bonds over time (I guess all future fundraising would go to pay bonds). Dana Luther (good job Dana) even seemed stunned at the idea of issuing bonds when there is an $8 million lump sitting in the bank. Mark Brown did a great job of politely telling Dwayne what a ridiculous idea it was.
Dwayne then says he must watch out for all taxpayers, someone called him whose kid rode dirt bikes instead of playing ball, said if there was going to be ballfields, he wanted a dirt bike trail for his kid. So 1,100 kids playing ball, with 1 kid riding his dirt bike (strange ratio).
Becky tried to nail Mike Stewart & Scuba Jane for doing nothing for SRA in their tenure, Dena nailed her. Mike Brandt mentioned there was an attempt to buy land two years ago, which happened to be in Becky's back yard, it got derailed, Becky tried to say the land was designated for a septic line.
In Summary, high marks for the audience tonight, all spoke very mannerly to the TC, no serious misbehavior. For the most part, all spokespersons had their thoughts well organized.
Same to the TC persons who voted for the future of Summerfield. Bravo !!
As for Dwayne & Becky, even when confronted with the obvious, they represent their own interests, not the good of the community. They don't belong................(was BS on one of those flat screens in Men in Black? the old schoolteacher?)
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DOGGETTJA
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Posted: Jun 23rd, 2006 02:35 am |
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Summerfield passed their budget with minimal blood shed.
A very interesting night tonight. Lots of adults and children who came to express their interest in the town buying ball fields. There were some interesting statitics thrown around such as Pleasant Garden only spend 2% of their budget on parks and recreation but it was not pointed out that they had Hagan Stone park with a multitude of fields, picnic areas, ponds etc for a much, much smaller town than Summerfield. Another Town cited was Greensboro who only spends 10% of their budget on parks and Recs but then they can use the 100 or so school fields in their city. They had to buy their parks at some point and in fact I remember when they bought the bog garden and bicentenial park but interestingly no figures were given for Guilford county which has a huge park and rec system.
DC suggested floating a revenue bond and then the SRA could charge each child $25 a month to pay it back. A thousand children x's 12months x%25 dollars =$300,000. I wonder is this on top of the fee's the families already pay for their children to play? And what's wrong with using some of the $8 million that the parents have already paid into.
BS got very hostile about where did this idea of ballparks come from. She had never heard anybody mention ballfields until the last few months. Why had the town not been discussing this for years. Pointed to Mike Stewart and me as not having done anything to procure ballfields in our time on council. Where in the world has she been the last 10 years? Oh thats right she's only lived in Summerfield for 3 years. It was pointed out that the Town had tried to buy ballfields actually right behind her house and the neighbors had kept that from happening.
Mom rambled on and on not sure about what. Had to be called down several times before she would sit down.
Cracker and Laccka I know you must have some comments. what did I miss?
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Posted: Jun 23rd, 2006 02:52 am |
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DOGGETTJA wrote: Pointed to Mike Stewart and me as not having done anything to procure ballfields in our time on council.
Don't worry about it Jane, wish you & Mike were sitting in BS & DC's chairs. BS should have been thanking y'all for doing the groundwork to make it possible.
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Posted: Jun 23rd, 2006 02:55 am |
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| Since tonight's excitement was all about ballfields, does anyone know if the park Phase II was included in the budget, or maintenance for phase I?
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DOGGETTJA
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Posted: Jun 23rd, 2006 02:56 am |
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| thanks Watago. Just thankful we had 3 council members who understood what the people were saying, listened and did the right thing.
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Posted: Jun 23rd, 2006 03:00 am |
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DOGGETTJA wrote: thanks Watago. Just thankful we had 3 council members who understood what the people were saying, listened and did the right thing.
Amen & Ditto
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