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 Posted: Jul 10th, 2006 02:10 pm
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One item that will be coming up for discussion is Turkey Shoots. Should there be any kind of restrictions on whether or not they are allowed?

There has been a Turkey Shoot over on Winfree Road for many, many years (Jane may know more about this, since she lives fairly close "as the crow flies.") Neighbors have notified the town about the noise, traffic, etc. generated.

What do you guys think?

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 Posted: Jul 10th, 2006 02:40 pm
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I think it depends on which turkey we're gonna shoot. Kidding!
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 Posted: Jul 10th, 2006 02:53 pm
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You mean they shoot turkeys over their? Isn't turkey hunting allowed anyway?

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 Posted: Jul 10th, 2006 04:03 pm
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Turkey shootin' is part of country livin' isn't it???


Rural charm and all that???



I haven't heard the complaints of the neighbors, and I usually like to hear both sides, before I shoot my mouth off, but if they aren't hurting anything and folks who participate enjoy it and have enjoyed it for years, perhaps a compromise could be reached instead of shutting them down.....

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 Posted: Jul 11th, 2006 10:30 am
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Cracker- If you live next door to a turkey shoot it isn't that simple unfortunately. The turnkey shoot in question is down at the end of Winfree rd and has gone on probably 25 years. From the first of September until Decemember on Friday and Saturday nights we are pretty much prisoners in our houses as it sounds as if a war is going on. Same thing on Saturday mornings with Shane's gun club. We live about the same distance from both places.  The interest in the turkey shoot has waned some thanks probably to the neighbors on Winfree Rd who are tired of the beer cans , squealing tires  and people driving through their yards so hired an off duty sheriff to police the area and put in speed bumps to slow the traffic down. I live through the woods so don't have to deal with the traffic and drunks issue just the noise which is enough.

Not sure what the answer is but I will have to say I would not be the least bit upset if the Turkey shoot went away.

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 Posted: Jul 11th, 2006 01:16 pm
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Well Jane... I had no idea that it went on for months! I figured it was a one weekend thing. I knew there had to be another side to that story. 


 



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 Posted: Jul 12th, 2006 01:04 am
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Ya'll seen that movie, The Devil Wears Prada?




Well tonight the Prada was Pink. ;)
j/k BS Your outfit looked nice.
 
Just couldn't pass that one up:D .

Lacka's gonna wanna know where you got those PINK pumps honey!!!

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 Posted: Jul 12th, 2006 01:42 am
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Crackah, you bad.
Where was Mom tonight?



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 Posted: Jul 12th, 2006 02:45 am
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I'm in MX this week, can somebody write a summary que paso con la TC meeting?

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 Posted: Jul 12th, 2006 03:07 am
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Steve- I probably won't do as good a job as some of the others but here goes. Of important note was the meeting was over shortly before 9. There were no rezonings. The item that generated the most interest was the regulating of Turkey shoots. I got "point of Ordered" by BS for speaking from the audience but the town council was discussing with Robin writing an ordinance regulating turkey shoots. There were probably 25 people there who had an opinion and I suggested to the mayor that maybe it would be nice to listen to what the folks had to say about the turkey shoot we have in Summerfield so they would know what the problems were.  It really struck me as funny after 2 years of sitting through constant interruptions during town council meetings that I would get a "point of order" thrown at me by the vice president of the cc. Interesting how things change isn't it. 

There were three changes in the devlopement ordinance which all passed and made good sense I think.

Michael had a bunch of items to go over. The last item concerned the the sdoption of an ordinance stipulating expense approval for the operation of the Town of Summerfiedl for the year 2006- 2007. BS was unhappy that she had been on the council for 6 months and she had never heard of this ordinance which DC pointed out had been started when Bill Peterson was mayor. It allows for emergency spending by the mayor and Town adminsitrator which as was pointed out had only been used 2 times in recent memory. Once this year when a contract on the park had not been signed to get the grass cut and once several years ago when the hot water heater gave up the ghost and had to be replaced quickly. Both times the council was advised immediately. BS accused Dena of spending $1000 for ernest money on a land purchase but Dena quickly pointed out that she had the approval of all the council when she signed that check so it did not come under this ordinance.  After much discussion it passed.

BS voted against the 401K resolution and the enrollment of Summerfield in the state program. I can't imagine why and she didn't say.

The council did approve sending out the RFP for the comprehensive plan which is a good thing.

There were several personnel issue to do with the personnel policy but probably more interesting to me because I helped write the policy so enjoyed watching is evovlem

Steve hope that gives some idea of what went on. Hey you all that were there what else did I miss?

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 Posted: Jul 12th, 2006 04:12 am
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Jane, I wanted to be there, and in my heart I was.  I have discussed the meeting with a couple of folks who did attend.... They say it was a relatively tame meeting and other than the folks wanting to speak on the Turkey Shoot issue there weren't many folks there.


Anyway, Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on anything.


Mom was not there, which is probably why the meeting was quick and tame.


Heard about when BS tattletaled on you for being out of order.  She just can't stand when you speak... about anything. Jealous I'm thinking.  I just hope all those turkey shoot people (on both sides) were listening when you tried to take up for them and get them a chance to speak.  Funny thing is, I don't remember BS ever "point of order-ing" MOM.


Dwayne rambled on and on about semantics on several issues.  It was painful. You gotta work on that Dwayne.  You've researched most issues before you get in the chair, so perhaps you could write out what you want to say instead of playing word games. Sometimes you have a good point to make (ex. ordinances pertaining to safety and junk vehicle definitions) but we've forgotten it before you get to it.


OH OH OH!!!!  Michael Brandt's contract!  BS wanted HIM to pay to have the lawyers draw it up instead of the town paying for it!!!!  I can't even believe that.  Is that normal?  Be Strong Michael!!!  Don't let them wear you down!!!


One other thing... there was a guy there taking photos and interviewing folks who were leaving the council meeting.  A friend thinks he was from the News and Record.  Boy did they pick a pitiful meeting to start attending! 


The N&R guy did capture one photo for the books though... The council was voting on whether or not to hire Clean and Green Inc. to maintain the grounds at the park and it passed with a unanimous vote.  The guy snapped the picture right when all 5 hands went up. 


I doubt he has a clue how rare that photo will be......


 


 



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 Posted: Jul 12th, 2006 10:33 am
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Cracker Jax wrote:

The N&R guy did capture one photo for the books though... The council was voting on whether or not to hire Clean and Green Inc. to maintain the grounds at the park and it passed with a unanimous vote.  The guy snapped the picture right when all 5 hands went up. 



 



I doubt he has a clue how rare that photo will be......


                                     Amen....most the night was 4-1

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I don't understand why BS wanted to vote against the town joining the 401(k) state plan.  Did she not have retirement benefits when she was working?  She certainly seems to have out against Michael and I thought she was rude and nasty about the personnel changes.

She mentioned that she had been to the secretary of state's webpage to check whether the company handling the lawn care at the park had filed their annual report.  I guess the town is now the IRS.  I wonder where I could find information on the non-profit organization "Concerned Citizens"  for which BS is the registered agent.  Have they filed their necessary reports? 

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 Posted: Jul 12th, 2006 12:15 pm
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I understand that fine upstandin' feller, George Holub, said the park playground was goin' to be open real soon (within a week?) an' the main openin' o' the rest o' the park will be around August 1.

Pappy thinks we are so lucky to have such a capable volunteer to he'p us out. Thanks ag'in, George!

Thanks also to Michael Brandt and Robin Smith who sometimes put up with a lot in order to do their jobs. We appreciate you both!



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Crackah, that contract thang for Michael is confusin' to ol' Pappy. BS wanted him to pay the lawyer fer drawin' up the contract fer his employment with the town? I would have never thought of that, but then I'm not a big time lawyer like she is. Actually she's not a big time lawyer like she is either.

Isn't that kind of thing what we have a lawyer for? Wouldn't our town lawyer still have to spend time lookin' over the contract anyway? Would it save that much money?

Make it more complicated, make it more expensive, make it take longer, make it more contentious, an' finally end up where it would have been anyway after her mischief fails. Is that really what the people want their "champion" to spend her elected time doin'?

Opposin' views are fine, just let 'em make sense an' have some purpose other than bein' opposite.



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