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Posted: May 31st, 2006 12:33 pm |
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FatPappy wrote: wepete wrote:
Point is: They have proved they do not care about us and what we want!!!!!
You guys are right. I badly misspoke and I apologize to all the council members past and present for the comment. They do care and I know that and have said so many times. I also believe that they all have the town's best interest at heart. I have said that many times as well. I believe all of them have proved their dedication many times over with the sun shining fully on their faces. There was no intent to say Mike is anything but honest. I never served with Mike so I have no first hand knowledge of any action he may or may not have participated in. I do have first hand knowledge of the events and emails I listed and its all a mater of public record. If town folk choose to ignore any council actions, so be it. I will say I have never intentionally lied to the town or anyone in it. To even insinuate my honesty is in question is an insult. To do it from the shadows is cowardly.
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FatPappy
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Posted: May 31st, 2006 01:00 pm |
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wepete wrote:
FatPappy wrote: wepete wrote:
Point is: They have proved they do not care about us and what we want!!!!!
You guys are right. I badly misspoke and I apologize to all the council members past and present for the comment.
Nobody's perfect. We all say an' do thangs we wish we could take back. (I may be doin' that now. Hee hee!)
King David made some really bad moves in his time, but he admitted it, learned from it an' moved on.
Points of view will always be different because we're all standin' in different places. Sometimes in different places on the same trail, sometimes different trails altogether. Got to keep movin' an' lookin' at it from different angles.
It's the people who ain't willin' to communicate who are missin' out. They need to move on from that spot.
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Steve Adkins
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Posted: May 31st, 2006 03:07 pm |
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wepete wrote: To even insinuate my honesty is in question is an insult. To do it from the shadows is cowardly.
wepete
You start your commentary contritely by apologizing for mis-speaking, then end by trashing those who challenged your mis-spoken words. You can't have it both ways.
Also. there may be some forum participants who don't know who wepete is, therefore you must consider your commentary is also "from the shadows". Again, you can't have it both ways.
To all participants - Participants should reconsider the temptation to "get it out of my system today and I'll apologize tomorrow". There is too much personalized commentary in the last several postings, which are unacceptable. Keep the commentary on the current council and the current/future impact to Summerfield.
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FatPappy
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Posted: May 31st, 2006 04:10 pm |
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Sorry, Steve.
Pappy had a hand in easin' the discussion off track.
So, what's up fer bidness at the upcomin' town council meetin'?
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Posted: May 31st, 2006 07:19 pm |
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I believe one thing that will be considered is allowing gas pumps to be reinstalled at Shorty Wilson's store (corner of Pleasant Ridge and Carlson Dairy). The store has been there for many, many years, but had some problems with the gas tanks (no leakage or contamination) and who was responsible for them. Now I think the old tanks have been taken care of, but now the grandfather period has expired.
In order to allow Shorty to have gas pumps again, it will require the town to remove the property from the critical watershed area. From what I understand, the town has stricter regulations on this than what the state requires.
What do you think, folks?
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Hairbrush
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Posted: May 31st, 2006 08:06 pm |
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Sandra, where did you find that there has been no contamination? I looked on the HERA website and see that there was an oil spill in 2001 and groundwater and soil contamination in 2000. It also looks like there might be a monitoring well, but I can't seem to find any information on it.
I am worried about underground storage tanks being used in a critical watershed area. I am sorry that the permit has run out, but I think it is a poor environmental move to put back in the tanks. I listened to the rezoning request on the property on Pleasant Ridge Road at last council meeting and it seems that council turned down the request because of environmental wetland issues. This seems to be a bigger issue to me because of the chance of leaking with the underground tanks and the chance that the tankers delivering the gas will spill. I know the number of times that I have spilled gas just by pulling the hose out of my car's tank and think of that multiplied by the number of people that pump gas. What is the runoff plan for waste that runs off the concrete, where does it go? Is there a holding tank or does it eventually just land in the soil. It seems that every subdivision that came up for re-zoning was questioned by BS as to where their groundwater study was. Is there a groundwater study on this site? Are we just concerned about the amount of water we have or do we actually want to drink the water? Has a mounding analysis been done to see where the contaminates will flow if there is a spill? I don't think this is a simple of matter of well it was once a gas station so it is okay to be one again. I think this is a chance to really protect our drinking supply.
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wepete
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Posted: Jun 1st, 2006 12:20 pm |
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Steve Adkins wrote: Again, you can't have it both ways.
I give up. I yield to the insurmountable. I acknowledge there are no lessons in history, the current council is divine (they walk on water) and the future is never in question. Have fun!
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FatPappy
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Posted: Jun 1st, 2006 04:18 pm |
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| Hairbrush, what address is that website you're referrin' to? It sounds interestin'.
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Posted: Jun 1st, 2006 04:28 pm |
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| That address is hera.gheh.org. It is a pretty interesting site.
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FatPappy
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Posted: Jun 1st, 2006 04:36 pm |
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| Much obliged! I tried Googlin' HERA, but all I got was Hera, Queen of the Gods.
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S. Smith
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Posted: Jun 1st, 2006 06:24 pm |
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Hairbrush wrote: Sandra, where did you find that there has been no contamination? I looked on the HERA website and see that there was an oil spill in 2001 and groundwater and soil contamination in 2000. It also looks like there might be a monitoring well, but I can't seem to find any information on it.
I am worried about underground storage tanks being used in a critical watershed area. I am sorry that the permit has run out, but I think it is a poor environmental move to put back in the tanks. I listened to the rezoning request on the property on Pleasant Ridge Road at last council meeting and it seems that council turned down the request because of environmental wetland issues. This seems to be a bigger issue to me because of the chance of leaking with the underground tanks and the chance that the tankers delivering the gas will spill. I know the number of times that I have spilled gas just by pulling the hose out of my car's tank and think of that multiplied by the number of people that pump gas. What is the runoff plan for waste that runs off the concrete, where does it go? Is there a holding tank or does it eventually just land in the soil. It seems that every subdivision that came up for re-zoning was questioned by BS as to where their groundwater study was. Is there a groundwater study on this site? Are we just concerned about the amount of water we have or do we actually want to drink the water? Has a mounding analysis been done to see where the contaminates will flow if there is a spill? I don't think this is a simple of matter of well it was once a gas station so it is okay to be one again. I think this is a chance to really protect our drinking supply.
Hairbrush, I was told by a member of the Wilson family that there was no contamination (by that, I mean the underground storage tanks were not leaking). However, you are correct about the HERA Web site and the information it shows. I'm doing some checking and have put in a couple of calls to Environmental Health to find out the status. I'll post here when I find out more specific information about any groundwater or soil contamination.
Hairbrush has posed some interesting questions, and I really don't have the answers to them. I know the state does have specific steps that much be taken when underground tanks are put in and they are much more stringent than they were years ago. Whether they are stringent enough to definitely provide protection of the water supply (both the groundwater and in the Greensboro watershed), I don't know.
I'd encourage citizens to ask questions of their governing bodies on this or any matter if they have concerns.
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Posted: Jun 1st, 2006 06:39 pm |
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| Thanks, Sandra, for looking into this. I don't all the regulations either, but I think all angles should be looked at before okaying the tanks. I am still doing some digging also.
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Posted: Jun 3rd, 2006 12:36 am |
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Back on the illegal immigrant thing, seems the newspapers are full of it these days.
One article I found of interest.......USA Today May 30th
Nation Splits 4 way on Illegals - Compromise could alienate half the USA
Americans fall into 4 clusters roughly equal in size: Hardliners, Unconcerned, Ambivalent, and Welcoming
Those who want to take the toughest steps against illegal immigration also feel the most urgency about the subject.
The four groups are starkly at odds on basic issues, making it hard to find common ground. No one in the hard liner groups supports a proposal to allow illegal immigrants to work toward citizenship, but more than 3/4 of those in the other 3 groups do.
Opinionated bunch of Americans on this subject !!!!!!!!! (my comment)
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Steve Adkins
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Posted: Jun 3rd, 2006 12:51 am |
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I saw one in the Columbus (Ohio) Dispatch newspaper this week during my travels where the Sheriff of Butler County Ohio has erected a large sign outside his jail that says "ILLEGAL ALIENS HERE" with an arrow pointing to the jail. Actually have a copy of the article
This Sheriff is billed the federal government for the cost housing illegal aliens in his jail. He is trying to get the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement agendy to deputize his employees so they can enforce federal immigration laws.
At a recent Sheriff's association meeting, more than a dozen sheriffs said they had to release detained illegal immigrants because federal immigration agents are too swamped.
These Sheriff's are taking the "hardliner" approach, not getting far......yet Summerfield is going to solve everything with a resolution that has no teeth??
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Posted: Jun 6th, 2006 02:17 pm |
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Summerfield Town Council Meeting tonight at 6:30 at the Community Center.
Please attend if you can!
A friend of mine recieved this email and passed it along to me. I don't think the SRA will mind my sharing a portion of it.
Hello to all,
Summerfield needs as many of you present at this meeting as possible showing support for SRA and your children's organized activities in the community.It is imperative that all attend. I have been told that Dwayne Crawford has been gathering his supporters against our cause, so we need to be there in force.
Tuesday night's meeting has the proposed budget for the next year. SRA has been added to that budget . I attended the budget planning meeting and submitted detailed needs for safety upgrades to our current facility for $36,000.00. The opposition is coming out of the woodwork.
Also in the budget is plans for a new ballpark facility that needs our support.The town is looking at possibly purchasing a 20 acre property just north on 220
what used to be Summerfield Auto Parts.
3 years ago Tom Valent and I approached the town about this property and never heard anything back. Now it looks as if it may happen.
Anybody that has ever been upset because their children have to play ball till 10 pm or later should show your support for this. More ball fields yield earlier times. Anybody who ever thought their child does not get enough practice time, this would yield more practice time availability on the fields. Anybody who has ever thought about our facility as being outdated, run down, or in need of a lot of repair you need to be there at this meeting showing your support. Please pass this on to everyone you know that is involved with SRA.
Thanks for all you do.
Jay Copeland
President SRA
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