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Posted: Mar 21st, 2007 05:46 pm |
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Posted: Mar 21st, 2007 11:45 pm |
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mstone wrote: He should be charged and the justice system should decide to what degree (if any) his activities were illegal and punishment equal to the offense should follow.
Yep, there's that 'Summerfield justice' thing for you again: Indict 'em, charge 'em, hang 'em and then find out if they are/were guilty of a crime later if a trial is warranted. Sorta kinda like they do things in Iraq.
BTW, it is going on one week now, and I am more than a little curious why Patti and Pappy haven't given us the low down on why this alleged arch-criminal hasn't been indicted, arrested, handcuffed, mug-shot, taken off the streets to protect innocent people and had his photo printed all over the front pages of the media? Unless of course, they were wrong, which obviously could not be the case. Right?
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Posted: Mar 22nd, 2007 12:38 am |
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Yep, there's that 'Summerfield justice' thing for you again: Indict 'em, charge 'em, hang 'em and then find out if they are/were guilty of a crime later if a trial is warranted. Sorta kinda like they do things in Iraq.
BTW, it is going on one week now, and I am more than a little curious why Patti and Pappy haven't given us the low down on why this alleged arch-criminal hasn't been indicted, arrested, handcuffed, mug-shot, taken off the streets to protect innocent people and had his photo printed all over the front pages of the media? Unless of course, they were wrong, which obviously could not be the case. Right?
"Indict 'em, charge 'em, hang 'em and then find out if they are/were guilty" doesn't apply. We believe a crime may have been committed, and want the proper legal authorities to take any action that is warranted. If they decide that no action is warranted, we'll have to accept that. But it's not wrong to want justice served. If justice dictates that he is innocent, that will stand. But he may be guilty. That's an option we can consider, while evaluating all the facts.
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Posted: Mar 22nd, 2007 01:38 am |
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GRITS wrote: After all that DC has done--has he been blocked from your web site?
No he has not been blocked. In fact, I have personally invited him to join us on numerous occasions, and he has declined.
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Posted: Mar 22nd, 2007 05:16 am |
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Jim Flynt wrote: BTW, it is going on one week now, and I am more than a little curious why Patti and Pappy haven't given us the low down...........
Forum policies state "flame ideas, not people"
Let's get back on the subject, and get back to flaming ideas.
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Posted: Mar 22nd, 2007 11:57 am |
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Steve Adkins wrote: Jim Flynt wrote: BTW, it is going on one week now, and I am more than a little curious why Patti and Pappy haven't given us the low down...........
Forum policies state "flame ideas, not people"
Let's get back on the subject, and get back to flaming ideas.
Steve, my post wasn't meant as a flame of people or ideas. Like many others, I simply wanted an update from those who seem to be leading the charge for criminal prosecution and wanted to know when we could all expect to hear news of an indictment and arrest in this matter, as has been suggested might happen.
Nothing more intended. It is just that this is such big news in the Northwest that almost everyone out here who has been following all the media hype and front page headlines in The Northwest Observer is waiting anxiously with baited breath to see how this all comes down and plays out.
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Posted: Mar 22nd, 2007 01:38 pm |
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wanted to know when we could all expect to hear news of an indictment and arrest in this matter, as has been suggested might happen.
Nothing more intended. It is just that this is such big news in the Northwest that almost everyone out here who has been following all the media hype and front page headlines in The Northwest Observer is waiting anxiously with baited breath to see how this all comes down and plays out.
There has been no suggestion of indictment & arrest by anyone other than you Jim, and the subject has gone on far enough. The specific comment made at the TC meeting by Patti was she would pursue every avenue, and IF anything legal had been violated, then the legal side would be pursued either. It's a little unfair to ask when an arrest is going to occur, when it is not known.
Patti is a good professional journalist, she will advise us appropriately how things "come down & play out".
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Posted: Mar 22nd, 2007 07:03 pm |
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Hold on a minute, Jim. I think maybe you misunderstood my comment. As you copied - I stated the justice system should decide this matter. However, folks end up in the justice system only after they are charged with an offense. They are still innocent until proven guilty. A person charged with running a stoplight or robbing a bank is still innocent until they get through the justice system. There are lots of folks proven innocent in a court of law that were charged with offenses. There are lots of people in jail that were charged and found guilty. My point was that if the NWO believes what he did was wrong, he should be charged. If the NWO decides that he didn't do anything wrong or chooses not to pursue it - fine. Just say so. That's the only two ways to get this process moving forward towards a resolution.
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mstone wrote: He should be charged and the justice system should decide to what degree (if any) his activities were illegal and punishment equal to the offense should follow.
Yep, there's that 'Summerfield justice' thing for you again: Indict 'em, charge 'em, hang 'em and then find out if they are/were guilty of a crime later if a trial is warranted. Sorta kinda like they do things in Iraq.
BTW, it is going on one week now, and I am more than a little curious why Patti and Pappy haven't given us the low down on why this alleged arch-criminal hasn't been indicted, arrested, handcuffed, mug-shot, taken off the streets to protect innocent people and had his photo printed all over the front pages of the media? Unless of course, they were wrong, which obviously could not be the case. Right?
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Posted: Mar 22nd, 2007 11:15 pm |
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To carry your thought a little farther mstone, I think there are things that are immoral and unethical that are not necessarily illegal. So the discussion of an elected official who admits to hacking a website to gain identities may or maynot be illegal but it certainly is unethical.
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Posted: Mar 23rd, 2007 01:11 am |
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DOGGETTJA wrote: To carry your thought a little farther mstone, I think there are things that are immoral and unethical that are not necessarily illegal.
Jane: Given your statement, could you please provide us all with 3 examples of things which you would consider to be immoral and unethical, but yet, which are considered legal?
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Posted: Mar 23rd, 2007 12:23 pm |
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Jim,
What a powerful question - sincerely. When I read your post I thought, "I can pop these out in no time." After much thought, it's not that easy. Plus, knowing you have more active brain cells than me, I knew that this was some sort of test. 
Anyway, after pondering this question, let me see if my thoughts are anywhere close to correct. In the category of immoral and/or unethical
- Worshipping any gods other than God
- Making idols to worship
- Taking the Lord's name in vain
- Not keeping the Sabbath
- Not honoring your mother and father
- Adultery
- Bearing false witness
- Coveting your neighbor's possessions
The murder and stealing things pretty much fall into the illegal category.
How'd I do?
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DOGGETTJA wrote: To carry your thought a little farther mstone, I think there are things that are immoral and unethical that are not necessarily illegal.
Jane: Given your statement, could you please provide us all with 3 examples of things which you would consider to be immoral and unethical, but yet, which are considered legal?
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Posted: Mar 23rd, 2007 02:31 pm |
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mstone wrote: Jim,
What a powerful question - sincerely. When I read your post I thought, "I can pop these out in no time." After much thought, it's not that easy. Plus, knowing you have more active brain cells than me, I knew that this was some sort of test.
Anyway, after pondering this question, let me see if my thoughts are anywhere close to correct. In the category of immoral and/or unethical
- Worshipping any gods other than God
- Making idols to worship
- Taking the Lord's name in vain
- Not keeping the Sabbath
- Not honoring your mother and father
- Adultery
- Bearing false witness
- Coveting your neighbor's possessions
The murder and stealing things pretty much fall into the illegal category.
How'd I do?
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DOGGETTJA wrote: To carry your thought a little farther mstone, I think there are things that are immoral and unethical that are not necessarily illegal.
Jane: Given your statement, could you please provide us all with 3 examples of things which you would consider to be immoral and unethical, but yet, which are considered legal?
Mike, actually I didn't post the question as a trick question, but I did believe that Jane had made a statement which might be difficult if not almost impossible to answer clearly. In fact, I still look forward to her response in defense of her statement in the plural (when she used the terms "things"). I actually agree that it is not an easy question to answer.
Like you, though, I believe and have always believed that if a fellow simply abided by the Ten Commandments, he should pretty much be free of any further culpability in sins, immoralities and ethical lapses. The Golden Rule comes to mind as yet another useful guide in conducting one's affairs as well.
Mike, I not only think, but know from our previous prior private chats, that we both have great appreciation for a man's adherence to God's laws and commands. And for that, My Friend, you have my greatest respect and admiration.
Perhaps others will wade in and share their thoughts and comments as well.
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Posted: Mar 23rd, 2007 02:40 pm |
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Great conversation gentlemen, but the question on this topic is, "Do forum participants have the right to post anonymously?
Please stay on topic.
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Posted: Mar 23rd, 2007 02:59 pm |
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Do forum participants have the right to post anonymously? Yes. Not eloquent, but succinct.
EditorPS wrote:
Great conversation gentlemen, but the question on this topic is, "Do forum participants have the right to post anonymously?
Please stay on topic.
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Posted: Mar 23rd, 2007 03:15 pm |
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I am interested in knowing have any laws been broken and does the NWO have any civil action options? Is an investigation been initiated.
I read a letter in the NWO that articulated things really nicely. Dwayne and Becky are not qualified to be on the Town Council and we the citizens should not have to wait for them to step down. What are our options in getting these two undesirables off the TC?
Maybe we should start a partition and produce triple the signatures that got these bozo's elected in the first place.
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