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Posted: Mar 13th, 2007 03:43 pm |
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from wikipedia on blaise pascal: I like the last line the best. Great comparison Jim. I'm glad you referenced this guy. I see numerous parallels to the subject at hand.
From as early as his eighteenth year, Pascal suffered from a nervous ailment that left him hardly a day without pain. In 1647, a paralytic attack so disabled him that he could not move without crutches. His head ached, his bowels burned, his legs and feet were continually cold, and required wearisome aids to circulation of the blood; he wore stockings steeped in brandy to warm his feet. Partly to get better medical treatment, he moved to Paris with his sister Jacqueline. His health improved, but his nervous system had been permanently damaged. Henceforth, he was subject to deepening hypochondria, which affected his character and his philosophy. He became irritable, subject to fits of proud and imperious anger, and seldom smiled.[2]
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Posted: Mar 13th, 2007 03:43 pm |
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FatPappy wrote: "...if there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein,".
--Justice Robert Jackson in the 1943 case West Virginia v. Barnette
Interesting that you would quote from that case. For the uninitiated:
West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943) was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that held that the Free Speech Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution protected students from being forced to salute the American flag and say the Pledge of Allegiance in school.
From Wikipedia.
Are you also opposed to students saluting the flag and pledging allegiance or are you simply in support of those portions of this ruling that support your limited position?
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Posted: Mar 13th, 2007 03:55 pm |
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Jim Flynt wrote:
Are you also opposed to students saluting the flag and pledging allegiance or are you simply in support of those portions of this ruling that support your limited position?
I am not opposed to students saluting the flag or reciting the pledge. I am opposed to their being forced to do so.
Are you in favor of petty officials violating the first amendment?
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Posted: Mar 13th, 2007 03:59 pm |
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bama80 wrote: from wikipedia on blaise pascal: I like the last line the best. Great comparison Jim. I'm glad you referenced this guy. I see numerous parallels to the subject at hand.
Bama, maybe we both can agree to agree with Pascal's astute observation that from Nature all men are wretched without God?
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Posted: Mar 13th, 2007 04:04 pm |
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^some women too but that is a different quote and quoter.
OK give me the off topic, I know.
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Posted: Mar 13th, 2007 04:04 pm |
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FatPappy wrote: Are you in favor of petty officials violating the first amendment?
Perhaps I am that rarity among Americans that still believe in trials by jury and that an accused is innocent until proven guilty.
I am also mindful that public anonymous heresay postings to an Internet forum do not and would not constitute admissible evidence in the American system of jurisprudence, and I say, Thank God for that.
A man is also entitled to the right to confront his accuser in the American judicial system. In fact, that right and other rights under our Constitution is one of the many things which American troops are so proudly fighting for on distant shores. God Bless all of our troops in harm's way. Even those few soldiers who may not be fighting for our same rights as the majority of our other troops.
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Posted: Mar 13th, 2007 04:05 pm |
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bama80 wrote: ^some women too but that is a different quote and quoter.
OK give me the off topic, I know.
You know some wretched women too heh?
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Posted: Mar 13th, 2007 04:11 pm |
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| Also most people are aware of the fact that what is on the internet is open to anyone and any opinion and should be taken as such- mixed fact, opinion, and some ... other stuff. Shoot I have even seen a site that claimed you don't have to change the oil in your car ever! Did I believe it- no.
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Posted: Mar 13th, 2007 04:16 pm |
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Jim Flynt wrote:
FatPappy wrote: Are you in favor of petty officials violating the first amendment?
Perhaps I am that rarity among Americans that still believe in trials by jury and that an accused is innocent until proven guilty.
Dwayne has admitted, bragged in fact, that he has gotten into the site with the stated purpose of exposing anonymous posters, obviously to intimidate them.
And you're not outraged by that?
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Posted: Mar 13th, 2007 04:19 pm |
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Jim Flynt wrote:
A man is also entitled to the right to confront his accuser in the American judicial system. In fact, that right is one of the many things which Mr. Mike's son is so proudly fighting for on distant shores. God Bless Him and all of our troops in harm's way.
This a forum for discussion, not a court.
How dare you use Mr Mike's boy!?
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Posted: Mar 13th, 2007 04:31 pm |
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FatPappy wrote: And you're not outraged by that?
Dwayne nor anyone else has to hack into this site to find out "who" I am. I have the courage and freedom from fear to use my real name when posting. Of course, I also have enough manners and good sense given to me by my Mama not to go around and anonymously call another adult by the name "Boy" so perhaps I do have less to fear than you.
Again, I don't place much reliance on the credibility of what someone who posts anonymously tells me. As I said earlier, that kind of heresay would not be admissible in court. So it doesn't register much alarm with me whether in court or on an Internet forum.
The larger question here should be why, if you, others and The Northwest Observer truly believe a law has been broken, aren't you over at the District Attorney's Office filing a criminal complaint rather than on here telling me and the rest of the world who simply don't have any power to rectify the accused wrongs and crimes of others? That is a question that bears an answer if not from you, certainly from The Northwest Observer.
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Posted: Mar 13th, 2007 04:32 pm |
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I am also mindful that public anonymous heresay postings to an Internet forum do not and would not constitute admissible evidence in the American system of jurisprudence, and I say, Thank God for that.
Huh?
Hmmmm....didn't know this was a court of law I'm posting in. Nobody read me my rights or swore me in or anything! Gosh, anonymous heresay on an internet message board - who ever heard of such a thing?
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Posted: Mar 13th, 2007 04:45 pm |
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SaltyDog wrote: I am also mindful that public anonymous heresay postings to an Internet forum do not and would not constitute admissible evidence in the American system of jurisprudence, and I say, Thank God for that.
Huh?
Hmmmm....didn't know this was a court of law I'm posting in. Nobody read me my rights or swore me in or anything! Gosh, anonymous heresay on an internet message board - who ever heard of such a thing?
Perhaps we simply disagree on the standards we use in our personal education and awareness in where we obtain our facts, be it a courtroom or an internet forum. I doubt that our great universities would accept as fact in student thesis or term papers comments from anonymous posters as constituting "fact."
That is why so many of what are purported to be facts around here, really don't stand up to the light of day with only a modicum of real research from recognized authorities and authoritative resources. Some of the logic and reasoning bandied about is equally flawed.
I'll leave the internet forums to you if you wish to determine your set of facts, while I much prefer the many wonderful texts and libraries so close at hand in the many great universities and public libraries of this state. But I will hand it to you that the internet sure beats the staid old musty libraries for good humor, merriment and prankstering.
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Posted: Mar 13th, 2007 04:46 pm |
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Jim Flynt wrote: The larger question here should be why, if you, others and The Northwest Observer truly believe a law has been broken, aren't you over at the District Attorney's Office filing a criminal complaint rather than on here telling me and the rest of the world who simply don't have any power to rectify the accused wrongs and crimes of others? That is a question that bears an answer if not from you, certainly from The Northwest Observer.
For the record, the Northwest Observer is very aware of the implications of Dwayne's behavior and we are not sitting by idle, as it might appear. We simply don't feel it is in our best professional interest to discuss it on this forum and at this time. If and when the appropriate time comes, we will offer full disclosure on what actions are being taken.
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Posted: Mar 13th, 2007 04:52 pm |
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EditorPS wrote: For the record, the Northwest Observer is very aware of the implications of Dwayne's behavior and we are not sitting by idle, as it might appear. We simply don't feel it is in our best professional interest to discuss it on this forum and at this time. If and when the appropriate time comes, we will offer full disclosure on what actions are being taken.
Patti, Thank-you for your response.
Please know that I fully support you and The Northwest Observer in the prosecution of any and all who commit crimes of any nature to the fullest extent of the law.
If any accused is indeed proven guilty in a court of competent jurisdiction, then that person should be punished as allowable under the laws of this state and country.
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