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FatPappy
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Posted: Feb 28th, 2007 03:27 pm |
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We're still talkin' about "The 'Parks and Recreation' Sellers survey done last year on Town website - report dated March 7, 2006."
I'm gonna sit over here in the shade an' give my raw data a little break. You say whatever you need to an' I'll try an' jump back in when I'm rested.
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DOGGETTJA
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Posted: Feb 28th, 2007 03:33 pm |
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There, to my knowledge, has never been any discussion of a tax increase for parks or ball fields. The first half of the park was built with 50% PartF grant money and 50% general fund money from our share of the sales tax money. The Town is also waiting for the second part of the park for grant money.
The ballfield money has been set aside from the general fund to buy the land also a majority of which is from Summerfield's share of sales tax money.
The survey being referred to is on the web site for Summerfield done by Dr. Sellars.
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Posted: Feb 28th, 2007 03:36 pm |
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FatPappy wrote: I'm gonna sit over here in the shade an' give my raw data a little break. You say whatever you need to an' I'll try an' jump back in when I'm rested.
Pappy Thanks. I might even be tempted to sit over in the shade with you and we can spit and whittle for a while. We're both the better when we have someone arguing the other side as the devil's advocate and I don't think I have to tell you that Mama was right when she said I would argue with the Devil (and that was NOT a reference to you by the way).
Mama also used to say that I would probably vote for Lucifer himself if he was a Democrat, but I always advised her, never in the primary. Now if Ol' Mephostophilis is running against one of them Republicans, then that is an entirely different story.
When I get the chance to more fully look back at that survey, then I'll be back and we can toss around some banter back and forth in good natured pursuit of perhaps both discovering some middle ground and maybe even a couple of new ideas.
I do love parks. I just hate taxes. And my love for one has never overcome my hatred for the other.Last edited on Feb 28th, 2007 03:49 pm by Jim Flynt
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FatPappy
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Posted: Feb 28th, 2007 04:13 pm |
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| Much obliged fer that good info, Jane.
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Posted: Feb 28th, 2007 04:13 pm |
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Shamu wrote:  I am wondering how you can say that the "Friends..." has the best interests of Summerfield in mind. Summerfiled is not an animate thing with interests (ie. an individual). that you would know what its best interests are. What you really know is the best interests of you.
I think what you are saying is that you, and some small group of other like-minded people (30 in 8000 ain't much), have the best interests of Summerfield in mind. I doubt it. Maybe you should read the survey we paid $12K or $15K for last year and then explain to me how you know what the best interests of Summerfield are.
Ballparks?? Show me in the survey. Increased authority for Town Manager???
Shamu, Thanks for joining the forum and being willing to debate issues with others on here. Everyone may not agree, but our hope is that people can discuss things openly here, give supporting arguments and differing viewpoints, and maybe at least show others that there's always another side to consider.
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Baseball Buddy
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Posted: Mar 1st, 2007 03:21 am |
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S. Smith wrote: Shamu wrote: I am wondering how you can say that the "Friends..." has the best interests of Summerfield in mind. Summerfiled is not an animate thing with interests (ie. an individual). that you would know what its best interests are. What you really know is the best interests of you.
I think what you are saying is that you, and some small group of other like-minded people (30 in 8000 ain't much), have the best interests of Summerfield in mind. I doubt it. Maybe you should read the survey we paid $12K or $15K for last year and then explain to me how you know what the best interests of Summerfield are.
Ballparks?? Show me in the survey. Increased authority for Town Manager???
Shamu, Thanks for joining the forum and being willing to debate issues with others on here. Everyone may not agree, but our hope is that people can discuss things openly here, give supporting arguments and differing viewpoints, and maybe at least show others that there's always another side to consider. Ballfields fall under active recreation. Also when did Summerfield hire a Town Manager to give more power to? I recall all we have is an Administrator that has no power at all to make a decision to buy anything more than copy paper to print FOIA requests on.
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Posted: Mar 1st, 2007 01:27 pm |
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Baseball Buddy wrote: S. Smith wrote: Shamu wrote: I am wondering how you can say that the "Friends..." has the best interests of Summerfield in mind. Summerfiled is not an animate thing with interests (ie. an individual). that you would know what its best interests are. What you really know is the best interests of you.
I think what you are saying is that you, and some small group of other like-minded people (30 in 8000 ain't much), have the best interests of Summerfield in mind. I doubt it. Maybe you should read the survey we paid $12K or $15K for last year and then explain to me how you know what the best interests of Summerfield are.
Ballparks?? Show me in the survey. Increased authority for Town Manager???
Shamu, Thanks for joining the forum and being willing to debate issues with others on here. Everyone may not agree, but our hope is that people can discuss things openly here, give supporting arguments and differing viewpoints, and maybe at least show others that there's always another side to consider. Ballfields fall under active recreation. Also when did Summerfield hire a Town Manager to give more power to? I recall all we have is an Administrator that has no power at all to make a decision to buy anything more than copy paper to print FOIA requests on.
Buddy, I believe Shamu is asking a question about the town manager, not saying it had already been done.
Shamu, we've got another thread to discuss that issue called System of Government Change. I hope you'll visit there and post your comments on that subject.
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FatPappy
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Posted: Mar 2nd, 2007 04:41 pm |
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| whoops Last edited on Mar 2nd, 2007 04:42 pm by FatPappy
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Posted: Mar 4th, 2007 02:22 pm |
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Last edited on Mar 5th, 2007 08:54 am by
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Posted: Mar 10th, 2007 06:57 pm |
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Funny, I could of sworn there had been a comment from macca regarding Baseball Buddy's assertion that the Town Administrator could only afford to buy paper for FOIA requests. Something about $5000 discretionary budget.
Hmmmm. Wonder what happened to that comment?
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Posted: Mar 10th, 2007 07:08 pm |
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| I made no such comment.
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Posted: Mar 10th, 2007 07:41 pm |
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| OHHH, My Bad!! Usually us killer whales have very good memories. What is the discretionary spending limit of the Town Administrator anyway? Anybody know?
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Posted: Mar 10th, 2007 09:40 pm |
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Don't know the exact amount Shamu. (edited by S. Smith)
I would suppose you could find that info on the town's website.
http://www.summerfield-nc.com/
The budget is probably posted there. Last edited on Mar 11th, 2007 01:39 pm by
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Posted: Mar 10th, 2007 10:12 pm |
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| I believe the Town Administrator has a $500 limit for his discretionary spending. He was given a $5,000 limit when it came to phase 1 of the park but only for the park. he really can't buy much more than copy paper most of the time.
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Posted: Mar 11th, 2007 01:22 pm |
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Here's a real eye opener if yer coffee ain't doin the trick this mornin'.
http://homepage.mac.com/fatpappy/strickland-dunham/FileSharing7.html
Click on that link up yonder to go to Pappy's Loadin' Dock. You'll see one o' them public documents PDFs you can downlaod an' see fer yerse'f what I'm a-talkin' 'bout.
It seems Ms-Concerned Citizens Strickland slash Dunham have decided nuthin' matters but their own agenda. Despite a 3-2 vote by the council to proceed with the grant request to complete phase 2 of the park, these two individuals, apparently without knowledge of the majority o' the council, decided it was up to them to ignore a legal vote by our elected officials an' take matters in their own hands to try an' sabotage the grant process.
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