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 Posted: May 10th, 2007 08:11 pm
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HELP with the lingo MWBE?

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GRITS wrote: HELP with the lingo MWBE?
MWBE = Minority and Women Business Enterprise.



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 Posted: May 10th, 2007 10:02 pm
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Thanks Jim, I really didn't know.

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Thanks Jim, I really didn't know.

You must not have attended/watched any of the BOE meetings when they have discussed awarding of bids on construction. This has been Deena Hayes' cause, even though there haven't always been bids from minority or women-owned companies..... It seems she thinks GCS should do more to make sure these companies are bidding..... Yet, as someone else pointed out earlier, this scrutiny has made some companies that may be more competitive quit bidding. I've heard that there are companies that build all over the state, some of whom are based in and around Guilford County, who do not bid on GCS construction projects.



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 Posted: May 11th, 2007 12:06 am
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Thanks, Macca--you are correct.

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Jim Flynt wrote:
GRITS wrote: HELP with the lingo MWBE?
MWBE = Minority and Women Business Enterprise.


macca wrote:
GRITS wrote:
Thanks Jim, I really didn't know.

You must not have attended/watched any of the BOE meetings when they have discussed awarding of bids on construction. This has been Deena Hayes' cause, even though there haven't always been bids from minority or women-owned companies..... It seems she thinks GCS should do more to make sure these companies are bidding..... Yet, as someone else pointed out earlier, this scrutiny has made some companies that may be more competitive quit bidding. I've heard that there are companies that build all over the state, some of whom are based in and around Guilford County, who do not bid on GCS construction projects.


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Thanks, Macca--you are correct.

GRTIS: Wasn't trying to be rude or anything -- Just making a point about Hayes and this whole issue....



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 Posted: May 11th, 2007 10:41 am
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I know Macca, I didn't think that you were trying to be. I am familar with that group, just not the abbreviation. I plan to read up on this when I get a chance.

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What?  Nobody welcomed our new member?  Shame on ya'll! ;)


 Welcome to the forum EC Huey!!!!! :D


We look forward to hearing more from you as the election approaches!



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Oh, Crackah! You put us to shame! We are gettin' slack....

Welcome, E. C. Huey!

We always like to hear new ideas, especially concerning our BOE!



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I understand that the Northern schools have an extemely expensive septic system that is expensive to maintain and generally used in areas with poor soils.  Can't imagine on that huge piece of property a much cheaper conventional septic system couldn't have been put.

If we vote against the bonds then we continue to be behind and if we vote for the bonds then th BOE wastes the money. I agree mstone we need a building that children can learn in, stay safe in, warm and/or cool. We do not need these mega monuments MacSchools that GC insists on wasting our money on. We try to vote responsible people in but they all seem to have such diverse adendas having little to do with the education of our children.  We seem to have a group of people who have totally lost sight of what the purpose of their position is.

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Jim Flynt wrote: MWBE = Minority and Women Business Enterprise.

I was interested to see this definition, as I was also lost on the meaning of the acronym.

My company is also heavily into MBE's, hadn't heard this extension of the definition before.  It's very suitable.

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DOGGETTJA wrote: We try to vote responsible people in but they all seem to have such diverse adendas having little to do with the education of our children.  We seem to have a group of people who have totally lost sight of what the purpose of their position is.


Here's the really disturbing part...  If you've attended and/or watched as many BOE meetings as I have you quickly realize that this group meets more than any other board or council in the county, yet the vast majority of thier discussions have very little to do with educating our children.  For the life of me I can't understand why they get involved in half of the discussions that consume their time.

You're right - we need representatives whose only agenda is to carry out the mandate of providing superior educational opportunities.   

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Steve Adkins wrote: Jim Flynt wrote: MWBE = Minority and Women Business Enterprise.

I was interested to see this definition, as I was also lost on the meaning of the acronym.

My company is also heavily into MBE's, hadn't heard this extension of the definition before.  It's very suitable.

How about... Massive Wasteful Bureaucracy Everywhere !!! :shock:

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 Posted: May 14th, 2007 04:33 am
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mstone wrote: Jim Flynt wrote: MWBE = Minority and Women Business Enterprise.

How about... Massive Wasteful Bureaucracy Everywhere !!! :shock:


North Carolina General Statute  143-128.2

http://www.ncleg.net/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_143/GS_143-128.2.html

http://www.gcsnc.com/finance/index.htm

 


 

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Jim Flynt wrote: mstone wrote: Jim Flynt wrote: MWBE = Minority and Women Business Enterprise.

How about... Massive Wasteful Bureaucracy Everywhere !!! :shock:


North Carolina General Statute  143-128.2

http://www.ncleg.net/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_143/GS_143-128.2.html

http://www.gcsnc.com/finance/index.htm

 


 

Yep, I've got that regulation bookmarked in my files.  While I fully understand the purpose and agree with the concept, it still adds another layer of bureaucracy to an already burdened process.  That means added cost. 

The statute provides that, "Nothing in this section shall be construed to require contractors or awarding authorities to award contracts or subcontracts to or to make purchases of materials or equipment from minority‑business contractors or minority‑business subcontractors who do not submit the lowest responsible, responsive bid or bids."  That means little to our current BOE.  They are determined to increase MWBE participation regardless of the costs.

By the way... the official name of the program that the Guilford County BOE uses is: MWSEDBE (Minority or Women or Socially and Economically Disadvantaged Business Enterprise).  Ain't that a mouthful !!!

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