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 Posted: May 4th, 2007 11:07 pm
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You are so correct---I thought about this budget for the bond referrendum, and started actually thinking that all the numbers were inflated, and why is there still 30 mil in the bank that the BOE will do anything with. 

I agree there does not need to be fancy gadgets or monuments presentable at the entrance of a school as long as a child is receiving the proper education. If my child would receive an excellent education I would recommend Laughlin if the correct educators were in place. I do not think there has to be top of the art architectural structures for education. Just look at Northern. There is supposed to be a very impressive dinosaur fossil that cost x amount of dollars but that is not impressive to me, I think it is too small to be seen, and hangs up too high. But that is beside the point. It is just an example of "WASTED" money.

Have you presented your suggestions to the school board? I support what you are saying. Decrease cost, get rid of crap, build more schools, and hire intellectual educators.

   

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 Posted: May 4th, 2007 11:12 pm
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BOE, Prioritise,

Seats, Seats, Seats.

 

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 Posted: May 4th, 2007 11:19 pm
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Seats most definitely

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 Posted: May 5th, 2007 12:03 am
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Okay, I know this is kind of off the subject but not exactly. My comments fit better here than anywhere else available at this time....

It has to do with the GCS Administration and BOE needing to prove itself to everyone....

What is up with the interaction between Linda Shaw and Terry Grier at the County Commissioners' meeting last night? He went there asking for $$$ to help pay for rebuilding Eastern Guilford and Mrs. Shaw informed him that she had heard Insurance Commissioner Jim Long say yesterday that the school system would be getting around $40 million in insurance $$. Grier said he'd heard nothing from Long but the GCS attorney thinks the system will get no more than $20 million.... This is in addition to the $31 million in the bank left over from other projects..... Yet schools don't get all the things they need to best serve our children.

And I agree totally about how we just need basic buildings, not all these things to make them look impressive...



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 Posted: May 5th, 2007 12:54 am
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macca wrote: Okay, I know this is kind of off the subject but not exactly. My comments fit better here than anywhere else available at this time....

It has to do with the GCS Administration and BOE needing to prove itself to everyone....

What is up with the interaction between Linda Shaw and Terry Grier at the County Commissioners' meeting last night? He went there asking for $$$ to help pay for rebuilding Eastern Guilford and Mrs. Shaw informed him that she had heard Insurance Commissioner Jim Long say yesterday that the school system would be getting around $40 million in insurance $$. Grier said he'd heard nothing from Long but the GCS attorney thinks the system will get no more than $20 million.... This is in addition to the $31 million in the bank left over from other projects..... Yet schools don't get all the things they need to best serve our children.

And I agree totally about how we just need basic buildings, not all these things to make them look impressive...


Sounds as if Grier is already putting 20 million in with that 31 million that doesn't seem to go toward what it is intended to.

Remember those Get Grier Out of Here Posters a couple years ago? Everyone needs to start digging them up and displaying them again.

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 Posted: May 5th, 2007 02:24 am
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I personally dont agree with those magnets.

Dialogue with the board works much better.

 

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Oh I agree with those magnets and the signs and anything else we can do to get Grier outta here. I still have the ones I collected back in the day....


Dialogue is lovely, but it's not working. They pretend to listen to us and don't even look up when folks are doing the silly hand waving thing. Then they (most of them) vote the way they intended to all along....blindly following the master plan that Grier and Duncan have mapped out. 


I won't vote for any more school bonds or anything else school related until they stop renewing Grier's contracts and stop raising his salary.


mstone, you keep makin' them cringe! :D



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 Posted: May 5th, 2007 03:26 am
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I had all the Grier magnets that ever existed on my car and all it ever got me and my community of North High Point was grief. We have been called racists you name it....

We recently got our community back together in Southwest by showing the school board the facts. The facts were that the High Point redistricting had driven a bunch of people out of the public school system. High Point was the only area in the County with negative growth and it was all the middle class that had gone. They need they middle class kids in the system. It costs the system twice as much to eduacte a dis advantaged child.

You cant force people to attend a school that they dont want to go to. For the first time we got the vote.

Thats why I am against the magnets. Just keep hitting them with the facts.  If you really want to do magnets them invent another. Those old magnets ("Get TG out of here" and "honk if you have been grier ended") are linked to Southwest parents and all we want now is for the school board to leave us alone.

 

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 Posted: May 5th, 2007 01:35 pm
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Cracker Jax wrote:

Oh I agree with those magnets and the signs and anything else we can do to get Grier outta here. I still have the ones I collected back in the day....



Dialogue is lovely, but it's not working. They pretend to listen to us and don't even look up when folks are doing the silly hand waving thing. Then they (most of them) vote the way they intended to all along....blindly following the master plan that Grier and Duncan have mapped out. 



I won't vote for any more school bonds or anything else school related until they stop renewing Grier's contracts and stop raising his salary.



mstone, you keep makin' them cringe! :D


I want vote for another until a whole entire new board is in place.

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 Posted: May 5th, 2007 01:44 pm
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GRITS wrote: I want vote for another until a whole entire new board is in place.
Grits, in that case, you probably WON'T be voting for a very long time.



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 Posted: May 5th, 2007 02:03 pm
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you are probably right! But I think everyone should let the BOE understand that we want our promises to be kept and fulfilled, and stop inflating the estimated prices for projected prices and get on with what is important. That is education, and not making somebody elses wallet fatter. Guilford County is just beginning to pay back that 1 billion dollars that voters have agreed to. The county is still needing schools to be built to relieve overcrowding. NW was intended to decrease their student capacity with help of Northern. Instead, I believe the relief helped NE which was by far no where the over capacity limit of NW. Come on we don't we don't need a genius to figure this out. Over inflated cost are saved to pay for projects that want to be tested that can't be funded by other grants. Thirty million extra in the bank from the last bond could and should be used to build that extra school that was promised to the tax payers in order to get voters to vote yes. Give us what you (BOE) said you were going to give us with that extra cash. 

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 Posted: May 5th, 2007 02:05 pm
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Boy,  I need an education or an extra cup of coffee, I just realized how I spelt won't. Dah! Don't redicule to harshly, it's Saturday morning and I am allowed to be brain lazy.

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 Posted: May 5th, 2007 02:26 pm
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Southwestparent wrote: Vote no for the bond by all means but  the first battle is to keep them on the list.

How do we do this? If the bond didn't pass, how does that keep NW, SW and the airport schools on the list. Help me understand this.

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 Posted: May 5th, 2007 02:43 pm
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Simple.

What happens if NW and SW area people all take the attitude that they will vote no, bury their head in the sand, and the Airport schools get taken off by Kearns. 

When if the rest of Guilford County vote yes then we live with over crowded schools.

 

 

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 Posted: May 5th, 2007 02:57 pm
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GRITS wrote:
Have you presented your suggestions to the school board? I support what you are saying. Decrease cost, get rid of crap, build more schools, and hire intellectual educators.


 

GRITS,

Presented my suggestions?  Yeah.  Were they well received?  NO.  The administrators and BOE are polite, but you get the feeling talking with them that we parents and citizens are more of a nuisance than anything else.  I've spoken to them countless times and offered my suggestions and volunteered to help in any way I could.  Do you think I've received one call asking to contribute or help?  Nope!

Presented my suggestions?  I ran (unsuccessfully) for the BOE in 2000.  I chose not to run in 2004 because I felt Darlene Garrett was attempting to push for changes and her votes were pretty much in line with how I would have voted.  The difference is style.  I'm assertive and some may even say aggressive when it come to education issues.  That said, I won't sit on the sidelines again.  That was a mistake. I'll run for the BOE again in 2008.

Until then, we (parents and taxpayers) must continue to demand better from the BOE and the administration.  They aren't going to ask for our ideas or help (when was the last time you heard of a public meeting where there was a 2-way exchange of ideas involving the BOE and citizens?).  We've got to make them listen somehow.


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