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Posted: Feb 14th, 2007 02:19 pm |
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Cracker Jax wrote:
I agree Jane. I think Closed Sessions should be held at the END of the meeting!!!
I'd have to say that, unless what they talk about will have a bearing on some other discussion at that meeting, most people would appreciate the closed sessions being held at the end. (Except, of course, those of us who will stay until the bitter end. For us, it doesn't matter when they're held!  )
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Posted: Feb 14th, 2007 05:11 pm |
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Pappy wrote this up last week in advance in case I got busy. I figgered it would still be fresh enough to use.
The Mom Report for (insert current date here):
Mom showed up late, made a lot o' noise gettin' settled, ranted about how the mayor was doin' somethin' illegal, got her facts wrong, kept repeatin' nonsense, wouldn't sit down or shut up, got called down by the Mayor and/or town attorney, an' made ever'body's blood pressure go up fer no good reason.
I think I'll save that an' use it next month, too.
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Posted: Feb 14th, 2007 06:00 pm |
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Too Funny Pappy!!! Yea... she showed herself for sure last night. I had to look at my agenda again to make sure it wasn't a Municipal Building or a Sherrif's substation that we were discussing since she was so irate.
Mark couldn't shut her up and my TC Hero (Bill Hill) wasn't there to crack the whip (I missed you Bill!!!)... So what can be done about her??? Can't they get a cop or something to come and drag her away from the podium????
What did she mean when she was yelling that the council didn't allow the citizens to speak on issues??? There were 2 public hearings on that one topic for goodness sakes!
Oh yea... and I LOVED the Illinois comment Jay! 
You were definitely my hero last night since Bill Hill wasn't there! 
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Posted: Feb 14th, 2007 06:16 pm |
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| It would be sad if the town of summerfield had to resort to having the sheriff there. At other public hearings in other counties, if the speaker doesn't stick to the council rules then they are escorted from the building. They must also stick to topic or they lose their right to speak. I certainly didn't see why Mom should have more time then anyone else. The armfield owner that spoke first in favor of the development was as nice as she could be when she was informed her time was up. She said a nice thank you and sat down. The council didn't even have to open the discussion up for public hearing again. Of course, maybe if you come on time and listen to what is being said you might have a better idea of what needs to be said. Just a thought.
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Posted: Feb 14th, 2007 06:58 pm |
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What did she mean when she was yelling that the council didn't allow the citizens to speak on issues??? There were 2 public hearings on that one topic for goodness sakes!
Who knows what the ol' dahlin' was thinkin'. Showin' off fer that reporter feller, mebbe?
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Posted: Feb 19th, 2007 09:10 pm |
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Speakin' o' that reporter feller, did anybody else think his latest attempt missed the mark? He starts off with "Gail Dunhams' Freedom of Information Act requests ..." (visual: Mom dressed as George Patton stands in front of that giant Ameri-yes-we-can flag while the Stars an' Stripes Ferever plays in the background) ... anyway, the story, an' I do mean story, staggers on a little ways to say how Michael Brandt took time outta the council meetin' to address the issue. Seals didn't mention (or as he might word it, failed to mention) how Mayor Brown also took time outta the meetin' earlier to address Dunham's typical rude an' selfish assault on decency with several whacks o' the gavel.
Anyway, Pappy's gotta go look fer the rest o' the story. It was so slanted, all them little letters slid off the page an' fell in a big mess on the floor.
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Posted: Feb 19th, 2007 09:57 pm |
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| Pappy I agree. I sort of read the article with disbelief. No mention of the fact that this Foia requests had been going on for years. That Mom probably has more records than the Town does by now. That her purpose is to tie up the Town in mindless busy work. I for one really resent my tax money going for this type of activity but nothing seems to deter her on her relentless search for what ever she is searching for.
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Posted: Feb 19th, 2007 10:53 pm |
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Mebbe she's lookin' fer a crime to support all her theories.
She had a real good theory 'bout how the government was on the verge o' collapse because o' all the political signs on town property. Too bad all she had to work with was one B.J. Barnes bumper sticker on Robin's car. I'd like to say that's about as ridiculous as it gets, but unfortunately, I cain't be sure.
Open yer eyes, Seals!
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Posted: Feb 20th, 2007 11:30 am |
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You know I only take that paper for the sale flyers, but I did see that article you're talkin' about Pappy. You don't have to be Paul Harvey to figure out the rest of that story either....
The CC's got to Seals first, charmed him and now he's gonna have to learn the hard way about them....just like the rest of us did.
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Posted: Feb 20th, 2007 12:01 pm |
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Cracker Jax wrote:
You know I only take that paper for the sale flyers, but I did see that article you're talkin' about Pappy. You don't have to be Paul Harvey to figure out the rest of that story either....
The CC's got to Seals first, charmed him and now he's gonna have to learn the hard way about them....just like the rest of us did.
Don't feel bad Ryan it happened to me too, I thought they were a good group of doogooders (is that a word?) in the beginning. I got fooled and boy was I wrong when it blew up in my face. Show caution when talking to or dealing with this group. Seek out their past supporters and you will find they are sorry or deny their supporting them at the present time.
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Posted: Feb 24th, 2007 03:03 am |
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| Pappy's hat's off to Sandra an' Patti fer this fine NWO issue. HAW! This one's a keeper! Jam packed with good infermation an' opinions. I gotta go read it ag'in.
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Posted: Feb 24th, 2007 03:46 am |
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Yea!! Patti and Sandra I just read one of the best NWO ever. Great article on Point of Order and it's proper use. This papers got BB smiling.
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Posted: Feb 24th, 2007 11:08 am |
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| Agreed, Awesome Job Patti & Sandra !!!
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Posted: Feb 24th, 2007 01:08 pm |
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Thanks for the kind words.
I just want to go back and touch on the FOIA request article. I read Ryan Seals' account when it initially came out, and then went back and reread it after seeing your posts. As a fellow reporter, I have to admit that I didn't find his account as objectionable as you guys did. This being our forum and all, I obviously like it when you guys support something we've published. But in being a moderator, I have to try to be fair and equitable. His article didn't support the requests, but just said they finally got the attention Ms. Dunham felt they deserved (not he, Michael Brandt or the council). The matter did come up in a public meeting.
Maybe it's unusual for one publication to support another one, and I'd like for you guys to feel free to openly disagree with me here and be more specific about what you felt was inaccurate or slanted in his article. Other than the amount of time these requests have been coming in to the town, which is longer than the 6 months I believe was cited, I just didn't really have a problem with what was published.
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Posted: Feb 24th, 2007 01:23 pm |
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| Sandra I realize I read the article Ryan wrote with slanted eyes but I thought the article insinuated some how that the government was trying to thwart a citizens request. What I think would have made the article more palatable would have been some history on why this item had to be discussed in an open session.
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