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Posted: Apr 6th, 2006 02:54 am |
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FatPappy wrote: I just don't know how it's possible fer anybody to take ¢rawford seriously some days. By the way, fiscal responsibility had nuthin' to do with what he was sayin'. Nuthin'.
Well, obviously I wasn't there and since we don't stream TC meetings over the internet (yet), don't know about DC's droning............but just sitting down here 2000 miles away wondering......after he got done running his mouth, what kept another TC member from going ahead and making the motion to give the SRA the money, and in all likelihood the motion would have passed 3 - 2 anyway?
I should not speculate not having been there, but anybody have any comment?
Agree with Pappy on the fiscal responsibility comment, tax dollars should go toward maintaining the infrastructure of the town & community services.
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Posted: Apr 6th, 2006 02:55 am |
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Cracker Jax wrote:
Besides... by the time he gets time to read this, we'll be back on topic again. 
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah
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Posted: Apr 6th, 2006 02:56 am |
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S. Smith wrote: Okay, I guess I will be the bad guy here and say...
Yee Haa Sandra...........taking care of my boy Monty !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Cracker Jax
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Posted: Apr 6th, 2006 03:02 am |
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Steve....If I am remembering correctly, DC's speech came AFTER The vote. I will verify this tomorrow and correct it if I am wrong.... Scuba J? Sandra??
I just read back and realized that I did not make it clear that the TC voted to give the SRA the money...BS voted for it. She knows about the IRS/SRA thing evidently....
Now all those motions and votes are running together in my head.... Sandra you edit this if I'm wrong... Last edited on Apr 6th, 2006 03:04 am by Cracker Jax
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Posted: Apr 6th, 2006 11:32 am |
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As I remember it Dwayne gave his speech about the American dream, working hard,fund balances, low property taxes, never taking hand outs etc then the vote was held. It was 5 to 1.
I am proud that three of the council members are staying true to their vision. No grandstanding just plodding along trying to do the right thing. I know how hard it is.
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Posted: Apr 6th, 2006 11:46 am |
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Also Dwayne continuely brings up the fact he is sure there are people out there who could do a better job of leading and not spending tax payers money. We heard that speech about the park. He was sure there was private money and people who would do a better job now the SRA.
My question to Dwayne, as a resident of this community for way more years then he has been alive, just what committees are you serving on? How many batches of brownies have you made, how much trash have you picked up, how many times have you been at the school for parties or just to let the teacher have a break, how many books have you read to classes, how many bricks did you clean? This Town is full of volunteers who are working very hard on the important things for our children and the community. For you to say oh let the SRA raise their own money is dismissive and offensive to all the people who volunteer hours and hours.
We want our Town and our tax money to reflect our values and not just be a fund balance locked away in a vault for our politicians to count and hoard.
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Posted: Apr 6th, 2006 12:03 pm |
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I still can't believe that DC has lived his whole life in Summerfield and thinks that the community is suddenly upset about the conditions of the ballfields. In his rambling he said something about neighbors being on different sides of the fence over the ballfields. I always thought the citizens were pretty much in consensus that the kids need ballfields and improved facilities. That was going on when I was using the ball fields and that is way more years then I would like to remember. I also remember our teams raising money in a variety of ways.
I also thought that part of being a town was forming relationships and partnerships with organizations that were going to help your town be a better place to live. The SRA is a wonderful organization that has done amazing things with the funds they have been able to collect. Team sports is a wonderful thing for children to be involved in. It teaches them sportmanship, team work, and that hard work can pay off. Maybe DC and BS should have been involved in more team sports and things would go better on the council.
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Posted: Apr 6th, 2006 12:14 pm |
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Well said Hairbrush.
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Posted: Apr 6th, 2006 12:16 pm |
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Jane is
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Posted: Apr 6th, 2006 12:18 pm |
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| Well said, Hairbrush!
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Posted: Apr 6th, 2006 12:35 pm |
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Cracker Jax wrote:
Steve....If I am remembering correctly, DC's speech came AFTER The vote. I will verify this tomorrow and correct it if I am wrong.... Scuba J? Sandra??
I just read back and realized that I did not make it clear that the TC voted to give the SRA the money...BS voted for it. She knows about the IRS/SRA thing evidently....
Now all those motions and votes are running together in my head.... Sandra you edit this if I'm wrong...
Dwayne's speech actually came just before the vote. A motion had been made by Bob Williams and seconded by Dena Barnes to advertise for land to be used for athletic fields, to make an agreement with the SRA that they become the town's "recreation department" and that $5,000 be given to the SRA to make improvements needed now at the fields at Summerfield Elementary. The vote was 4-1 with all council members voting in favor except Dwayne.
Cracker, What is the IRS/SRA thing?
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Posted: Apr 6th, 2006 12:46 pm |
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Anybody who knows anything about the SRA and the other youth athletic associations in the local towns would know that they are not in business to make a profit. They are there to provide sports activities for kids. Most of them have a mission statement saying that is their goal, and that they want to include as many kids as possible.
These athletic associations operate on a shoestring budget. Even though they might do fundraisers, etc., they intentionally try to keep their costs low so they do not exclude anybody. They will NEVER have enough money to go out and buy land for ball fields.
It appears to me that some council members have never understood the philosophy of being a team player (maybe they never played sports as a kid). I have heard it said that Dwayne Crawford was concerned about vandalism at the park. If kids are on the ball field, they don't have time to go out and vandalize things. Keeping kids busy and active is one of the best deterrents to crime and just generally getting into mischef. That and education, but we don't have much say-so about that.
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Posted: Apr 6th, 2006 12:52 pm |
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DOGGETTJA wrote:
My question to Dwayne, as a resident of this community for way more years then he has been alive, just what committees are you serving on? How many batches of brownies have you made, how much trash have you picked up, how many times have you been at the school for parties or just to let the teacher have a break, how many books have you read to classes, how many bricks did you clean? This Town is full of volunteers who are working very hard on the important things for our children and the community. For you to say oh let the SRA raise their own money is dismissive and offensive to all the people who volunteer hours and hours.
Jane, you are right. I believe lots of people will be extremely offended by Dwayne's comments.
But Dwayne has volunteered. He has volunteered to look into a new recording system for town meetings and he wants to make it possible to record all the commitee's meetings. I will definitely sleep better tonight, knowing my town's techno-geek needs are being taken care of....... Forget about the kids. They don't really matter.............
Wonder what the next target will be in the name of saving "our" money?????
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Posted: Apr 6th, 2006 01:07 pm |
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S. Smith wrote: Cracker Jax wrote:
Steve....If I am remembering correctly, DC's speech came AFTER The vote. I will verify this tomorrow and correct it if I am wrong.... Scuba J? Sandra??
I just read back and realized that I did not make it clear that the TC voted to give the SRA the money...BS voted for it. She knows about the IRS/SRA thing evidently....
Now all those motions and votes are running together in my head.... Sandra you edit this if I'm wrong...
Dwayne's speech actually came just before the vote. A motion had been made by Bob Williams and seconded by Dena Barnes to advertise for land to be used for athletic fields, to make an agreement with the SRA that they become the town's "recreation department" and that $5,000 be given to the SRA to make improvements needed now at the fields at Summerfield Elementary. The vote was 4-1 with all council members voting in favor except Dwayne.
Cracker, What is the IRS/SRA thing?
Sorry... that was confusing... I meant Becky knows not to mess with the tax man and the SRA.... (from one of my earlier postings....) She's all about making the citizens happy you know...
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Posted: Apr 6th, 2006 01:10 pm |
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Oh and thanks Sandra and Jane for clarifying when the speech vs. the vote happened. I really wasn't sure about that.
Sandra.... You thought you had a story when I said IRS/SRA didn't ya????
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