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Posted: Aug 15th, 2007 04:25 pm |
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GRITS wrote: "we are the locals" if you know what I mean.
Yep, sure do.
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Posted: Aug 15th, 2007 04:51 pm |
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Jim Flynt wrote:
A simple reading of the posts here from all sides leads to no other conclusion.
I don't know why everyone is so upset. Myself, I am thrilled to find out that someone (though they don't actually live in Summerfield) has taken it upon themself to read everyone else's posts and then tell me exactly what those posters meant. Imagine, I don't need to waste any more time reading the posts from the masses - I can skip right to his posts (except the ones he deletes after rethinking his position) and everything will be explained to me. Simple, really.
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Posted: Aug 15th, 2007 04:57 pm |
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Jim Flynt wrote: Hairbrush wrote: Shoot I don't even now why it matters if they are Republican or Democrat. Now talk about a divide.
I thought Summerfield Town Council Elections were NON-PARTISAN.
Is political affiliation part of the whispering campaign too?
It's called a Faction. Federalist No. 10. Interesting read.
"There are again two methods of removing the cause of faction: the one, by destroying the liberty which is essential to it's existence; the other, by giving to every citizen the same opinions, the same passions, and the same interests."
"Liberty is to faction what air is to fire, an ailment without which it instantly expires."
Dangerous yet inevitable and progressive.
Only a true "adversary to liberty" would disagree.
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Posted: Aug 15th, 2007 08:29 pm |
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Cracker Jax wrote:
It's called a Faction.
Candidates who seek to fractionalize will be the ones who are marginalized by voters.
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Posted: Aug 15th, 2007 08:30 pm |
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Back on topic. Flame ideas, not people.
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Posted: Aug 15th, 2007 08:56 pm |
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Posted: Aug 15th, 2007 09:16 pm |
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jkinneman wrote: Mostly responding in reference to the number of outsiders versus locals. How long you have to live some place to be a local is one question I would ask but census data seems to support there are more "outsiders" than locals if we look back to the 1990 census as a starting point.
Based on Census data in 1990 Summerfield had about 2051 people (all ages). Since Summerfield was not an incorporated town in 1990 it was designated as a "census designated place".
In the 2000 Census there were 7018. I couldn't find a good number for 2007 but likely the growth since 2000 has been more due to people moving in than by birth from someone defined as a local.... 
Whether a higher percentage of "locals" vote than "new comers" or vice versa I don't know any easy way to find that out. As mentioned above how long do you have to live some place to be a local?
Good points, jkinneman.
One point to bring up regarding the incredible growth in Summerfield has to do with annexation. Unlike in Oak Ridge's voluntary annexation, from what I remember a huge number of citizens came forward and said they wanted to be a part of Summerfield after the original incorporation effort (could have had something to do with the timing -- Summerfield had no property tax then). Maybe some of the Summerfield residents can add some insight regarding the numbers. While I'm sure you're right that the population increase is due to people moving in rather than people being born here, the Summerfield population spike probably includes both "newcomers" and "old timers" (now town residents because of the annexation).
I have no idea when "newcomers" become "old timers."
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Posted: Aug 15th, 2007 09:25 pm |
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S. Smith wrote: I have no idea when "newcomers" become "old timers."
When they learn the language.......
Summerfield did grow more by annexation then new people moving here.....
How long you live here doesn't matter after you pay your first property tax.....
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Posted: Aug 15th, 2007 09:40 pm |
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Posted: Aug 15th, 2007 09:42 pm |
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StewartM wrote: How long you live here doesn't matter after you pay your first property tax.....
Amen Mike. Quite the profound statement.
That really should be the only measure.
I could not have said it better.
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Posted: Aug 15th, 2007 10:27 pm |
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StewartM wrote: How long you live here doesn't matter after you pay your first property tax.....
But it doesn't make you an expert on how the town should be run either.
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Posted: Aug 15th, 2007 10:30 pm |
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GRITS wrote: StewartM wrote: How long you live here doesn't matter after you pay your first property tax.....
But it doesn't make you an expert on how the town should be run either.
I don't know that there are any experts that exist like that.
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Posted: Aug 15th, 2007 10:33 pm |
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Posted: Aug 15th, 2007 10:37 pm |
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Posted: Aug 15th, 2007 10:39 pm |
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S. Smith wrote:
I have no idea when "newcomers" become "old timers."
Pappy became a ol' coot, on October 25, 2005, almost 3200 posts ago. HOO WEE! That was a real shock in the mirror next mornin'. Hee hee!
Fer somebody to be part of a community, they need to do a little reachin' out. Old timers in the community also need to reach out to the newcomers. I reckon it works both ways. Fer the most part I've seen this work right well, bein' as how most people are decent enough to get along with others an' want to belong.
It don't matter so much what yer circumstances are, it mainly matters what you're like as a person. Some people just don't want to be part of anything unless they can rule it. If they cain't rule it, they want to ruin it.
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