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Jim Flynt
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 Posted: Aug 23rd, 2007 03:34 am
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BreBre wrote: Are you part of the FFS, CCs, or TC? Hmmmm...
Nope. I'm NONE of the above.



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 Posted: Aug 23rd, 2007 04:03 am
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Jim Flynt wrote:
FatPappy wrote: Soundin' good as always, Mr Lovett!
Pappy's going to vote for all of the incumbents, but I agree with him, it does SOUND good.


Admit it. You'll miss me when I'm gone!

I'm not a grand political insultant, I mean CONsultant, I'm just some guy who lives here, but I know what sounds good and what don't.



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 Posted: Aug 23rd, 2007 04:14 am
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Summerfield resident? Summerfield voter?

Jim Flynt wrote:
Nope. I'm NONE of the above.


Aw, come on, Jim. Ya gotta admit that was a good'n.



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 Posted: Aug 23rd, 2007 04:15 am
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FatPappy wrote: Admit it. You'll miss me when I'm gone!


Pappy, absolutely. I will honestly miss you.

While we disagreed ever so much over politics and political discussions, I always did think (and still do) that you are one wonderful, talented, creative and awesome writer. I have said it before: you should write a book (please don't feel obligated to dedicate it to me though).

No doubt, perhaps the real reason you and I clashed so much is likely that you and I are so much alike (God forbid that either of us would ever say or admit that).

So Happy Trails to you Old Friend. 

I would give all that I own to possess even a fraction of your humor and creative writing skills, and please know, that in all my many travels, you always more than kept me on my toes in those silly senseless debates we had like no one else ever has or ever will have with me again.

Pappy, you really are the best.

Even if we still can agree to disagree! 

I will of course miss you.

Sayonara until tomorrow.

 



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FatPappy wrote: Summerfield resident? Summerfield voter?

Jim Flynt wrote:
Nope. I'm NONE of the above.


Aw, come on, Jim. Ya gotta admit that was a good'n.


On a scale of 1 to 10, that was about a 20.

You whupped the young pup once again.



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 Posted: Aug 23rd, 2007 11:08 am
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 In 2004, the council at the time, consisting of Williams, Barnes, Collins, and currently non-council members Stewart and Doggett, used secret real estate agents and illegal violations of the Open Meeting laws of North Carolina to try and get what they wanted.

Yeah, they're good to go!!

 


Shamu you know this is not true, there was nothing illegal. We hired a real estate agent to negotiate buying land that was for sale on the open market (for ballfields) to get a good price for the citizen of Summerfield. This was how our attorney advised us was the best way to do this. We did change the way to a open process that cost more but is better. I have never attend a illegal meeting or violate the open meeting laws.

Since you are running for office start by telling the truth. The facts are at Town Hall.

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 Posted: Aug 23rd, 2007 11:50 am
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BreBre back to your question about the old ballfields.  They have been fixed up, but the town doesn't own the land.  The school does and as fast as the town is growing the school is going to need that land.  The association keeps those fields in good working order but there is no where else to expand and they are turning children away.  Soon the school is going to look at the town and say sorry we need that land to put up some trailers to handle the overflow of children we have.  Children need ballparks so they need to go somewhere and I think we as town need to supply them.

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Shamu wrote: Skiddles wrote: I have to agree with the others in the fact that the incumbents have years of history for all to see. How they have viewed and voted on issues is a matter of public record. There is nothing for them to hide.
 Really, nothing for them to hide? How about secret committees? Who selected the so-called Friddle ballfield site in January 2007?  Answer: A secret committee made up of Town Administrator, a Town Council member who owns adjacent commercial property, the President of Summerfield Recreation Association and his 12 year old son, and a real estate agent who has since lost his license in June.

In 2004, the council at the time, consisting of Williams, Barnes, Collins, and currently non-council members Stewart and Doggett, used secret real estate agents and illegal violations of the Open Meeting laws of North Carolina to try and get what they wanted.

Yeah, they're good to go!!

 


This was not a secret committee! All of these people sat on the Parks and Recreation Committee except my 12 year old who was 11 at the time. We all road in my Suburban and looked at 20 or more properties at different times. The Committee then narrowed it down to 9 properties. Then to 3. Then to 1. The Friddle property. This was done through several meetings and months. I personally had over 4 years in this with the help of Tom Valent (the Real Estate agent who had his license revoked). I was asked by the committee to speak in front of the Town Council of the need to move on this piece of property and the need for ballfields. After I spoke we were made aware of 2 more pieces of property that had come available. 1 of them I had already looked at 2 years prior, the other was not in the Corporate limits of the Town and was never considered. The next week I was told that Becky Strickland was sending a article to the GSO News and Record slamming our Mayor, Town Administrator, Myself, and other volunteers of SRA. I was asked to write a rebuttal, and did so. During the next Parks and Rec committee meeting a member who I had not seen but at 1 meeting in a year shows up and starts telling the committee they had not done their 'Due Diligence" and starts Monday morning Quarterbacking all the hard work that has been done. Speaking out against the Friddle property because it was close to his own. This was showing great NIMBY ism and not caring what was best for the Town.

Now you want to talk of "Secret Meetings".                              Tell us about the "Meet the candidates meeting" That was held by the CC's where the incumbents were not invited. I'll bet it was really a meeting to see what could be done to get the incumbents out and the CC's in.



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 Posted: Aug 23rd, 2007 12:34 pm
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Again, all of these so called "groups" are such an embarassement to this town! :X They should DISBAND and let the TC do the job that we appointed them to do.

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 Posted: Aug 23rd, 2007 12:44 pm
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Amen BreBre.....

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 Posted: Aug 23rd, 2007 12:48 pm
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Shamu wrote:  
 Really, nothing for them to hide? How about secret committees? Who selected the so-called Friddle ballfield site in January 2007?  Answer: A secret committee made up of Town Administrator, a Town Council member who owns adjacent commercial property, the President of Summerfield Recreation Association and his 12 year old son, and a real estate agent who has since lost his license in June.

In 2004, the council at the time, consisting of Williams, Barnes, Collins, and currently non-council members Stewart and Doggett, used secret real estate agents and illegal violations of the Open Meeting laws of North Carolina to try and get what they wanted.

Yeah, they're good to go!!

 



Shamu, now you have really crossed the line with this remark. Go ahead and smear you OWN campaign by telling lies about good, honest citizens of Summerfield.  It is one thing to make negative remarks toward incumbents, since you are running for town council. But when you start attacking a 12 year old child and making false accusations of a minor being on secret committees for ballfields it is time for me to take a stand and be an advocate.

This 12 year old you speak of is my son.

This SRA President is my husband.

This real-estate broker that lost is license is my good friend.

Too bad you will not come out and make this comment using your other screen name. What have you got to hide? I suppose it doesn't look good for a candidate to make false statements using his real name.

Face it, you are not for Summerfield---if you were , you would have been very instrumental in purchasing the right piece of property for ballfields from the very beginning. Instead, you and your group of Concerned Citizens retaliate by hiring lawyers to "threaten" to sue the town because you  think the town has done something "illegal". From what I hear, you guys are up to the same old tactic again because you disagree with how Wray now sits on the town council.

My advice to you is stop crying, accept it, and learn how to work with it instead of wasting your time fighting it. Face it , if you were for Summerfield, you would at least be trying to achieve a common goal.


You also made a comment regarding town council officials having conflicts of interest wanting to put the ball fields on old Summerfield road, something about "good old fashion money being put in their pockets". Are you wanting a piece of the pie? Is this why you are running for council?

Have you returned the Cape Fear Shiner to it's natural habitat (umm the watershed). I hope it still isn't living in the aquarium. Isn't this and endangered species?

Have you gotten anymore deer stands lately? (that information came from the horse's mouth--not from the SRA President). I can give you the time and date of when I was told this.


I am going to put a sign in my yard that says

Summerfield -- Don't be SHAMMED; (you can fill in the rest).



  Whitney Lee --aka GRITS (girl raised in true Summerfield)

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Jim Flynt wrote: BreBre wrote: Are you part of the FFS, CCs, or TC? Hmmmm...
Nope. I'm NONE of the above.


mole?

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GRITS wrote: Jim Flynt wrote: BreBre wrote: Are you part of the FFS, CCs, or TC? Hmmmm...
Nope. I'm NONE of the above.


mole?


Try Ahole!

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theraven wrote: GRITS wrote: Jim Flynt wrote: BreBre wrote: Are you part of the FFS, CCs, or TC? Hmmmm...
Nope. I'm NONE of the above.


mole?



Try Ahole!



NOW WE ARE GETTING SOMEWHERE!


THE TRUTH FINALLY COMES OUT--I AM GLAD I AM NOT THE ONLY WHO FEELS THE SAME WAY.

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Jim Flynt wrote: BreBre wrote: Are you part of the FFS, CCs, or TC? Hmmmm...
Nope. I'm NONE of the above.

I didn't mean you Jim. I know you aren't part of those petty little groups. In fact I am glad that Patti is shutting this forum down for a while. Maybe it will bring the CCs, FFS, & TC back to reality. How are they going to show off now that the forum will be shut down? Doh! (thats what Homer Simpson says for you people who don't know that)


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