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Posted: Mar 28th, 2007 02:59 pm |
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Dwayne has great knowledge of government. I always thought he could have used his time for the better. I wish he would have put his efforts into something more positive for the Town. He always made us think differently and this I hope will continue. Best of luck to Dwayne.
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Posted: Mar 28th, 2007 03:27 pm |
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Ditto BB... We have certainly been down many paths in Summerfield lately. It is another day and it's time to come together and become one town again. I do wish for all good things to come Dwayne's way.
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Posted: Mar 29th, 2007 01:36 am |
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God will help me, certainly. However, talking down to those on this forum "of discussion" will lead to nothing but a deaf ear, maybe even two or seven thousand deaf ears. For you to say (again I quote you) "I simply remain committed to seeking solutions and you simply remain part of creating problems." I refuse to believe that "I" am creating problems with my simple postings on this site! Afterall, I have not betrayed the trust of anyone here.
Thanks to Dwayne for his service to the town he has certainly opened up a lot of discussion. Bless him for that!
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Posted: Mar 29th, 2007 02:01 am |
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Hey Sawdust, some of us are confused by your post several minutes ago. Apparently, you're quoting Jim's earlier post (I didn't trace it back) ... just for emphasis, I assume?
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Posted: Mar 29th, 2007 02:08 am |
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Patti,
I think this is the earlier post he was referring to in his comments.
Jim Flynt wrote:
Sawdust, we simply disagree in our hearts and with our hearts on Summerfield issues.
I simply believe that the good people of Summerfield deserve better than what either side is presenting in their war of words, name calling and finger pointing. And you obviously don't.
One is either part of a problem or part of a solution. I simply remain committed to seeking solutions and you simply remain part of creating problems.
While I could otherwise dissect your comments and point out the fallacies of logic in your reasoning, in the interest of seeking higher ground in any discussion, I simply refuse to lower myself to the baser expectations of an elitist though minority mob gone mad. I am aware as well of mob thinking and mob anger directed at those who would have the audacity to disagree with their positions or challenge the veracity of their statements. My hide is thick enough, my ego strong enough and my intellect keen enough to more than adequately see past such small minded thinking. And I have enough forgiveness in my heart to move past it toward constructive solutions.
Obviously, you cannot see beyond your own innate bias and anger, so feel free to read your own prejudices into my thoughts and statements as you see fit. It will only serve to feed the mob's hunger and stoke their fires for even more vengeance and revenge against anyone seen as an opponent, which I am not, simply in that I have NO DOG in this fight.
Quite frankly, the words and deeds on both sides continue to bring great shame and disgrace to the respective interests of each and all and remain unflattering to an otherwise wonderful community which deserves better.
You still have another 950 or so days to engage in your negativism and name calling and finger pointing, so please enjoy it even as you drive a majority of wonderful Summerfield citizens to anger and despair toward all sides of a divisive government and divided community. And calling it 'positive fact based response' only adds to the humor and irony and amusement for citizens with minds and men and women of conscience.
I simply think there is a better way. May God help you find it.
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Posted: Mar 29th, 2007 02:09 am |
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Okay, thanks. Now I understand.
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Posted: Mar 30th, 2007 12:57 am |
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Patti, Jim and forum please forgive me for my lack of etiquette. I will try to be more specific with references in future posts. Patti, Jim is correct this is the post I was referencing. Thanks for the help Jim, I will be more careful with my on-line references.
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Posted: Apr 9th, 2007 03:07 am |
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LottieDottie wrote: I'm still unclear as to why the Town Council does not appoint/nominate a Sargent of Arms to handle disruptive behavior at the meetings.
Lottie Dottie
Maybe because they like the disruption...that's what I think.
By the way, who started the Concerned Citizens? And are the Concerned Citizens and Friends for Summerfield one in the same?
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Posted: Apr 9th, 2007 10:22 am |
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The CC's were startedby Dunham, Crawford and Strickland for the most part. Crawford although he claimed to no longer be a part is the person who files the financial statements and is still isted as treasurer. They started in response to Summerfield starting to charge a tax. I have never heard the cc's be for anything that is community building only against things.
The Friends for Summerfield were started this year to counter all the negative press that Summerfield is getting. We think the majority of Summerfield, while they may not like paying taxes , understand the necessity of paying taxes in order to be a town. Summerfield's tax last year was 3.5 cents on a hundred. If my math is right that is $35 for every $1,000 of property. We support planning for the future. Support ballfields and parks. Summerfield has some of the most progressive zoning in North Carolina but only because people in Summerfield care enough came together and developed the zoning. We will only have a Town if we care enought, come together and develop this Town.
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Posted: Apr 9th, 2007 12:32 pm |
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Its time to make it YOUR town
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Posted: Apr 9th, 2007 12:57 pm |
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DOGGETTJA wrote:
Summerfield has some of the most progressive zoning in North Carolina but only because people in Summerfield care enough came together and developed the zoning.
Jane, I am really curious why you would make such a statement. What facts are you basing this statement on? It seems all the more questionable when one considers that Summerfield does not have a current comprehensive land use plan in effect nor a PUD ordinance.
I would love to hear your comments about any progressive distinctions which the Summerfield zoning and land use ordinances have which wouldn't be found in other communities' zoning and land use plans. Even your comments on a comparison of the Summerfield versus Oak Ridge ordinance might not only be interesting but enlightening.
I have worked with and follow the planning and zoning ordinances for several municipalities in North Carolina, and trust me, Summerfield has a long way to go before their ordinance would be considered progressive by comparison with many other more long standing communities and cities.
If you wish to see an example of progressive ordinances, you might wish to consider the Chapel Hill or Carrboro zoning and land use ordinances.
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Posted: Apr 9th, 2007 01:29 pm |
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DOGGETTJA wrote:
Summerfield's tax last year was 3.5 cents on a hundred. If my math is right that is $35 for every $1,000 of property.
3.5 cents per hundred X 10 = 35 cents per thousand (unless MY math is wrong).
$3.50 would be the tax on $10,000.00 of assessed real property value.
$35.00 would be the tax on $100,000.00 of assessed real property value.
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Posted: Apr 9th, 2007 01:49 pm |
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I knew I was wrong when I typed it. Thanks Jim.
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Posted: Apr 13th, 2007 03:01 am |
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DOGGETTJA wrote: The CC's were startedby Dunham, Crawford and Strickland for the most part. Crawford although he claimed to no longer be a part is the person who files the financial statements and is still isted as treasurer. They started in response to Summerfield starting to charge a tax. I have never heard the cc's be for anything that is community building only against things.
The Friends for Summerfield were started this year to counter all the negative press that Summerfield is getting. We think the majority of Summerfield, while they may not like paying taxes , understand the necessity of paying taxes in order to be a town. Summerfield's tax last year was 3.5 cents on a hundred. If my math is right that is $35 for every $1,000 of property. We support planning for the future. Support ballfields and parks. Summerfield has some of the most progressive zoning in North Carolina but only because people in Summerfield care enough came together and developed the zoning. We will only have a Town if we care enought, come together and develop this Town.
Thanks for the info Jane
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