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Anna Diemer
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Posted: Mar 30th, 2007 12:09 am |
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This election year we have a very peculiar primary race--so early in the year, numerous candidates have declared their desire to run for president for both parties. It's hard to keep up with all of them!
If anyone is as politically aware as I am (a lot of people I know don't start thinking about the election until after the primaries), who are you favoring in the next presidential election?
I am personally supporting Barack Obama in the primary, and I believe that his powerful grassroots movement can help him to beat out Hillary. Should Obama not receive the nod from the Democratic party, I plan to support Rudy Giuliani assuming he earns the Republican nomination.
I don't know how political we're allowed to be on these forums, but I've been dying to ask some adults about this.
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Posted: Mar 30th, 2007 12:31 am |
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I am new to these forums, but I suspect that as long as we are simply expressing honest opinions about political issues no one should be offended.
That said, so far I really like Barack Obama and really don’t like Hilary Clinton. My opinions are based on my perception of their character and values, including moral values. Of course I don’t really know any of them personally, but based on what I have read and what I have heard them say, I have a sense of Obama’s values, which I like. He hasn’t done anything ( yet ) that I know of that would cause me to distrust him. On the other hand, I tend to be a little cynical. There are few, very few, political candidates over the years whom I have truly admired and respected. Guiliani is not someone I could support, because to me marital fidelity is very important, so he doesn’t qualify. It doesn’t matter to me what his other values may be or what talent he has. If he doesn’t respect his spouse or marriage, then I cannot trust him. Of course each of us is biased to some extent according to our own perceptions and values and priorities. But hopefully we are informed as well as biased.
In any event, thanks for starting this ...
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Anna Diemer
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Posted: Mar 30th, 2007 12:41 am |
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You're quite welcome. Being politically aware is something that I've come to value a lot recently.
I believe that I most likely support Obama and dislike Hillary for the same reasons that you do. For anyone interested, there is a grassroots organization forming in Greensboro to support Barack Obama in '08. I already bought a bumper sticker. ^_^
I like the way this election is turning out because it promises not to become a contest to elect "the lesser of two evils." Though I could not vote in '04, I supported Kerry only because I disagreed so much with Bush. I personally think that America needs a change from the big government neoconservatism that Bush has instated. (How many billion dollars are we in debt now?) I think that Obama represents a fresh face in politics and a change from the partisan bickering from which our country has been suffering lately.
As for Giuliani...I don't really take moral values into consideration like that when looking at a political candidate. I would trust him to represent our country to the world and also to handle foreign and domestic affairs well. I admire the way he handled New York during 9/11, and I think many believe that he would make a good president. Of course, all politicians (and people) have skeletons in their closet...just in today's world (and since Watergate, but more often now) those closets are open for the country to see.
Obama seemingly has no skeletons, and I find it amusing how the anti-Obama crowd keeps trying to find things that he's done wrong or somehow is inconsistent.
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Posted: Mar 30th, 2007 02:30 am |
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Anna Diemer wrote: I don't know how political we're allowed to be on these forums, but I've been dying to ask some adults about this.
Anna, welcome back. We've missed you.
This subject is perfectly appropriate in the National Events section, thank you for starting this thread.
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Posted: Mar 30th, 2007 02:45 am |
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Posted: Mar 30th, 2007 12:29 pm |
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It's way too early for me to make a decision on a presidental vote. Both Democrats and Republicans have policies that are agreeable to me and both have their failings. It seem to work better for me to consider the individual as well as party.
This morning news - Another 300 peoople in this area have lost their jobs! It must be devastating to have worked for many years for a company and then being thrown on the trash heap. Luckily, some can restart and form new careers, but there are some for whom the obstacles are too great. For them, it's kind of like an attorney being laid off and having to go into doctoring. I'm afraid to think of the number of people giving up homes, savings. A friend from the Detroit area says that homes are selling for ten, twenty, thirty thousand or whatever is owing on them, but when 35,000 people are unemployed, it's still hard to sell. Seems it's like that, perhaps on a smaller scale, all over the country.
Thus far, the front line candidate wannabees have held personality contests and have spoken in generalities on issues When voting time comes, I will consider a candidate who includes in his campaign a plan that makes it feasible for companies to stay in America, and to begin reducing dependency on other countries. While a global economy is necessary to a point, I'm becoming a little fearful of offshore and outsourcing.
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Posted: Mar 30th, 2007 12:54 pm |
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I agree it's too early to make a serious selection. Parties don't mean as much to me as they used to. I see good and bad on both sides. I think a lot more people share that view these days an' I wonder how that will play out in the future of partisan politics.
I like what I've seen so far of Obama, too. He'll be one to watch fer sure.
Hillary may be smart, but somethin' ain't right about her as far as I'm concerned. It might be fun to see Bill back in the White House as First Man though. Hee hee.
Still, we've come a long way, I reckon, when a woman and a black man are serious contenders for President of the United States! Yee haw!
It's gonna be interestin' to watch.
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Posted: Mar 30th, 2007 09:04 pm |
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Pappy and Starcatchr: I see that in both of your posts you have mentioned "when voting time comes." Is this in regard to the primaries, or the general election?
Jim: If you're interested, there will be an organizational meeting for the grassroots Obama campaign in the Triad next Monday evening (April 2). I can give you the details when I find out, if you'd like. There's also a fundraising breakfast and rally in Charlotte on April 13.
As for never supporting Republican candidates...I've always thought of myself as quite the liberal hippie, but as I've studied the Constitution further, I've become more fiscally conservative. I'd label myself as a Libertarian, but plan to register with the Democratic party and vote for whoever I believe is the best candidate, regardless of party lines.
It's really interesting for me to read about everyone's opinions of political candidates and see the phenomenon of the American public in action.
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Posted: Mar 31st, 2007 12:27 am |
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Posted: Mar 31st, 2007 12:30 am |
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Posted: Mar 31st, 2007 01:13 am |
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Anna Diemer wrote:
Pappy and Starcatchr: I see that in both of your posts you have mentioned "when voting time comes." Is this in regard to the primaries, or the general election?
I was thinkin' more of the general election, not thinkin' of the primary comin' up. I get tired o' politics now an' then an' hafta take a break from ponderin'. It's fascinatin' but it'll wear you down after awhile.
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Posted: Mar 31st, 2007 05:33 pm |
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what we need is someone like Clark Howard . His views on finances are excellent. but with all the money floating around DC he would not get far because both parties are tied to special interest and not the people. He also has a good plan to get us off mideast oil, expensive at first but it would work. Of course getting him to run as he said would probably not happen . No new Clinton!!!!!!!!.
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Posted: Mar 31st, 2007 09:33 pm |
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FatPappy wrote: Anna Diemer wrote:
Pappy and Starcatchr: I see that in both of your posts you have mentioned "when voting time comes." Is this in regard to the primaries, or the general election?
I was thinkin' more of the general election, not thinkin' of the primary comin' up. I get tired o' politics now an' then an' hafta take a break from ponderin'. It's fascinatin' but it'll wear you down after awhile.
See, I think that the primaries are just as important as the general elections. It's a shame not as many people get involved in them.
Jim: I will certainly email you when I find out more! There's certainly nothing wrong with being a liberal hippie. It makes the world a better place. ^_^ Of course, I have close friends who are conservatives as well...
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Posted: Apr 2nd, 2007 12:43 am |
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| Anna, I agree. The primaries are extremely important. Do you happen to know voter turnout percentages for either or both? I assume that local elections suffer the lowest turnouts. It never ceases to amaze me that some people I know who are involved in many activities, just don't think it's important to vote in locals. Well, that's where our representation starts!
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Posted: Apr 22nd, 2007 08:05 pm |
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I'm just curious. I hear alot that people don't like or don't want to support Hillary Clinton.
Why is that? What do you not like about her? What do you feel would keep her from being a good president?
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