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 Posted: Jan 26th, 2006 01:34 am
What if a student stays after school everyday for tutoring to raise shem's GPA?

Just one more thing to think about :D

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 Posted: Jan 26th, 2006 09:04 pm
Thanks for the soapbox privilege, Cracker; I'm sure it'll get some good use.  ^_^

One of the things that upsets me about life is that we're all just a number and a birth certificate somewhere.  Oh well, c'est la vie.

I guess it would be a good incentive for grades.  Doing it by grades would be a better way than just having a lottery for the rest of the spots.  We are going to need LOTS of help, though, if parking is going to be so conditional.  Maybe we could contact the PTSA at the school and ask to form a parent parking committee to get more help.

So, when a student goes to get their parking spot, they'll have to bring
1) their license
2) their parent (? suggested by someone earlier, I think...)
3) their last report card/transcript
4) their class schedule
5) a list of after school activities, job, sports, etc.

Or something like that?  Trying to consolidate everyone's ideas...

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 Posted: Jan 26th, 2006 11:05 pm

I don't see why the parent would be needed if all the other stuff checks out. Do you? Maybe I missed that post...


oops!  I was gonna let Kris do my talking.... Did ya'll really believe that? :P


 



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 Posted: Jan 27th, 2006 01:52 am
Anna Diemer wrote: One of the things that upsets me about life is that we're all just a number and a birth certificate somewhere.  Oh well, c'est la vie.

Anna, don't LET the numbers define you!

You have to have a birth certificate, social security number and driver's license (if you are privileged to have one:-) number. That's just a fact of life.

If you are talking about GPA and standardized test scores, just don't let them define you. If you do your best in all you do then whatever the "numbers" come out to be doesn't really matter. N'est pas?

oooh, I'm probably gonna get an off topic :D I've never gotten one before :cool:

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 Posted: Jan 27th, 2006 02:03 am
Anna Diemer wrote: So, when a student goes to get their parking spot, they'll have to bring
1) their license
2) their parent (? suggested by someone earlier, I think...)
3) their last report card/transcript
4) their class schedule
5) a list of after school activities, job, sports, etc.

Or something like that?  Trying to consolidate everyone's ideas...

I had previously suggested having a parent come with the student. My original thinking was so the signature on the parking application wasn't forged. But with proper documentation of everything I guess a parent wouldn't be necessary.

Maybe the parking committee could draw up a new parking application that includes a place to list after school activities, job, sports,etc ??

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 Posted: Jan 27th, 2006 02:08 am
Kris McNeill wrote: oooh, I'm probably gonna get an off topic :D I've never gotten one before :cool:

Although your comments are 100% correct, and very good advice............you are correct that you are..........


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 Posted: Jan 27th, 2006 10:27 pm
Crackerjack,

I see both your ideas and Anna's and believe that both of you have good suggestions, but reality is this; the senior thing will be forever more.  Seniors deserve to be recognized for their accomplishments.  This is not to say that other students aren't making the same or better acheivements.  However, life in High School has a protocol which allows for Seniors to be recognized and given certain perks because of their position.  This is not different from normal everyday job experience.  We see it with every aspect of life; jobs, church, government etc...  so lets not lose our mind when trying to make a decision about what should happen at NW.  Seniors probably will get first choice. 

I even heard that Seniors will be registered before any other grade level will be registered, so I believe that even after school begins, some students will not be driving before all seniors are registered.  Frankly, I think it should be this way.  I personally think that only seniors should drive.  That's the way it was when I attended school.  We knew that it was that way and every excepted it and waited their turn.  I have a hard time dealing with what I hear from people who feel like they are due something.  No one is due anything except to learn and graduate.

Also, those who feel like the school have to provide a space for their child because their child works after school, should really re-examine their thoughts.  That's like asking the school to make arrangements for getting them their also.  I believe that is the responsibility of the parent who allow them to have a job in the first place.  That is not the responsibility of the school to provide a space for afterschool extra-curricular activity.  So lets look at this realistically.  The school provides and should provide for those students who are being rewarded for getting to the top, ie. seniors.  Everyone else who gets a space ought to thank God.

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 Posted: Jan 27th, 2006 10:32 pm
I really wished I could, but my schedule won't allow to meet during the day or early evening.  I will contact Officer Pass and see what I could do to assist in any way I can.  Maybe even do some work during the summer to help prepare for next year.

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 Posted: Jan 27th, 2006 10:35 pm
The school won't be able to meet all request for parking.  I think that is real.  We need to narrow the scope and be honest about what we are looking at.  Too many drivers and situations to be able to meet every need.

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 Posted: Jan 27th, 2006 10:42 pm
gotobeme wrote: The school won't be able to meet all request for parking.  I think that is real.  We need to narrow the scope and be honest about what we are looking at.  Too many drivers and situations to be able to meet every need.

Gotobeme
Good point.........they can put up portable classrooms, but nobody has invented portable parking lots yet. 

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 Posted: Jan 27th, 2006 11:30 pm
Just out of curiosity, does anybody have a feel for how badly overcapacity the parking situation is?

I think I read someplace there are 720 parking spaces.   How many do we really need?   800?   900?   Does anybody really know.  If the school is at 140% of student capacity, does this automatically mean parking is 140% over capacity too?  (Logical)

Alot of good comments above, just having trouble understanding if the problem is 1) overcapacity (which of course is yes), 2) selection criteria or,  3) #1 leading to #2

Sounds like #3.   

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 Posted: Jan 28th, 2006 12:08 am
Waytago, I think you're right - it's #3. It's a problem that just really came to fruition this year. Younger McNeill #1 graduated last year - about 380 in her class. Younger McNeill #2 will graduate next year - 575 in her class. The sophomore class is even bigger - I don't have numbers though.

In my opinion, more selection criteria should have been put into place this year. I just think a lot things happened that were not anticipated.

Younger McNeill #2 tells me that there are 698 parking places. I know there is a "waiting list" but I'm not sure how many are on it. My guess-timation is that at least  75% of the 575 "next year seniors" will want a spot so that could account for over half of them. If GPA is used as a criteria, that might lower it.

 

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 Posted: Jan 28th, 2006 02:58 am
I don't think they are going to let a job be part of the mix because it has nothing to do with school.

this year they have 709 spots and there isn't anywhere else to make any new spots. I think I heard their are a couple hundred on the waiting list.

So they are looking at a possible 1000 kids next year needed spots.

I don't think the GPA thing will work because it just adds more busy work for staff or volunteers and that could be time used more wisely.

Sorry if I am always being the down one, but I just would like everyone to know it's not going to be a win-win situation and there is going to people that might need one and aren't going to get it. Might be a good idea to make a plan B for if you don't get one and prepare now.

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 Posted: Feb 1st, 2006 04:37 am
I was mentioned in an earlier post that GCS limited parking passes to $5.00 max.  Why can't they give the schools more freedom to do what they need to do to make things work?  Our parking situation is simply one of supply and demand - 709 spaces available and 1,000 plus needed.  We need to raise the price to the point we only get 709 people who want to pay price x and the problem is eliminated.  At $100 per pass that is $70,900 available to put in a fund for additional parking spaces.  At $500 per pass, that is $354,500.  This money can be used to add more spaces until the supply issue is resolved.  That sounds like a lot of money, but over 9 months, it is only about $55/mo.  At $100, it is about $11 per month - not a lot of money. 

Of course, I'm sure Dr Grief and staff would never go for it, especially at Northwest. 

 

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 Posted: Feb 1st, 2006 11:02 am
I think we've been talking about having parking allotted more on a need base than on a "who can afford to pay it" base... Some of the kids who need it most may have a hard time coming up with $100, much less $500. I think we sometimes forget that, while this is an area of great wealth, there are also families who struggle ... I don't think we need to highlight yet another area to identify the "haves" and "have nots."


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