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Vicki White-Lawrence
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Posted: Jan 21st, 2006 10:38 pm |
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Gotobeme: Unless the policy has changed, parents must sign the form verifying the information on the form.... Some parents may have accompanied their child in order to complete the form... And, as mentioned, others had extenuating circumstances that necessitated their being there....
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Kris McNeill
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Posted: Jan 22nd, 2006 05:54 pm |
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macca wrote: BTW: How did these students get parking permits? Or are they using someone else's space?
Macca, from what I was told, these students got parking permits back in August by standing in that long line, filling out the paperwork and paying $5. I know it would be a lot of work for someone but I think more "investigation" needs to be done before a students receives the PARKING PRIVILEGE. Check their grades, have they been suspended before?, etc.
I agree with what has been added here - students who take classes at Weaver or who have after-school jobs should get first consideration along with zero period students, athletes, band students, or other after school commitments. BUT, consider their academic standing FIRST. If my child didn't have the grades, he/she wouldn't be driving to school because he/she wouldn't even have a drivers license! A driver's license is a privilege, not a right.
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Kris McNeill
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Posted: Jan 22nd, 2006 06:09 pm |
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Vicki White-Lawrence wrote: Gotobeme: Unless the policy has changed, parents must sign the form verifying the information on the form.... Some parents may have accompanied their child in order to complete the form... And, as mentioned, others had extenuating circumstances that necessitated their being there....
Vicki, you are correct. Parents must sign the form. In my opinion, I think the parent should HAVE to accompany their child to get the parking privilege. And bring a copy of the student's last report card. And SHOW the students driver's license (not just write the DL number on the form).
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Kris McNeill
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Posted: Jan 22nd, 2006 06:21 pm |
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gotobeme wrote: Lets not speculate on what is and what isn't. The truth of the matter is this; if you are a parent and have a complaint, you need to get involved. Stop jaw jacking and put their action where their mouth is.
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I think some fine suggestions have been made here. Many thanks to the NWO for providing this forum for the sharing of ideas. And thank you to Anna for starting this topic!
Patti, could some of these ideas be included in the paper? Maybe this is a good topic for an article?
I think that by sharing good sound ideas here, parents (and others) are being active in helping to solve the problem.
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Anna Diemer
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Posted: Jan 22nd, 2006 06:52 pm |
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It's so exciting for me to have provoked such interesting discussion (really, it is). This is one of the issues about Northwest that bothers me the most, and it's at least refreshing to know that something will be done eventually, and that I'm not the only person who feels the way that I do.
I was actually going to write an editorial to the NWO about this, but I decided to post it on the forum first and see what happened. I'd love to see something about this in the paper.
Vicki and Kris, I agree with you. Parking is a privilege that I am incredibly glad to have, and it saves my parents time as well.
Also, it bothers me that the parents of children would help them to be duplicitous. What happened to southern hospitality and the pleasant manners that accompany it? It is sad that adults can be just as disrespectful as high school students and not think twice about it. But that's another topic. ^_^
Thanks for everyone's input!
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Jacob Boyd
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Posted: Jan 22nd, 2006 11:52 pm |
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Okay, as ANOTHER student at Northwest, I have not had a problem at all with the parking "problem." In fact, I was unaware that it was such an issue worth STARTING A COLUMN ABOUT (Just Kidding Anna  ). Here is the deal, in my view. It is unfair that Zero-period students did not get first choices at parking since, hey I get up an hour earlier than everyone else to be at school. However, Big whoop-de-doo. I am crying over spilled milk.
As for the students' "duplicity" well, who is truly honest? Who would not take an advantage of a situation if one were given to them? HONESTLY, I definitely would loan my friend my space in order to keep my parking spot. And as for the others, you cannot change peoples' mentalities.
As for the change in parking from last year, it was absolutely NECESSARY to assign students parking spaces because of the growing number of students. And as of now, Sophomores have no right to a parking spot before a Junior or Senior.
Now, something worth talking about would be the "traffic issue" which I do not believe is nearly as bad as it has been in the past. I have heard that the problem will soon be remedied.
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Kris McNeill
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Posted: Jan 23rd, 2006 01:28 am |
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Jacob Boyd wrote: As for the students' "duplicity" well, who is truly honest? Who would not take an advantage of a situation if one were given to them? HONESTLY, I definitely would loan my friend my space in order to keep my parking spot. And as for the others, you cannot change peoples' mentalities.
Jacob, I appreciate your honesty but I must say that I KNOW of many students at Northwest who follow the rules and who would not take advantage of a situation like the parking privilege system. It is very easy to fall into the mindset of "well everyone else is doing it" but it takes real character to follow the rules even when you don't agree with the rules.
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Posted: Jan 23rd, 2006 01:34 am |
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Jacob Boyd wrote: Now, something worth talking about would be the "traffic issue" which I do not believe is nearly as bad as it has been in the past. I have heard that the problem will soon be remedied.
The new car rider loop should make a big difference. If I remember right, I think it will be ready in the fall. It's about time, it's been "in the works" and "promised" by GCS for at least 2 years now. In my opinion , the traffic is just as bad as ever on Northwest School Rd - we desperately need that loop.
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Jacob Boyd
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Posted: Jan 23rd, 2006 03:17 am |
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Kris, don't get me wrong, I follow rules and I am a good student. But, unless I am asked to do otherwise, I MIGHT HAPPEN to LET one of my friends park in my spot. No one is perfect, not even those "students at Northwest who follow the rules..." All human beings are inclined to imperfection and as such, EVERYONE typically puts his or her own interests before others' sometimes. And AS a Northwest student, I would not dare to waste my time with even the THOUGHT of losing my parking permit. I have way too much to worry about anyway than being concerned with how I am going to get to school. This is all hypothetical by the way, I have not ever done this. But one thing I think would be wise for everyone to remember is that no one knows the situation that every person is in. An example would be that both my parents work during the day so I would there is NO WAY that I could afford to lose my parking permit and yes, I would use the means necessary to keep it, if it meant begging. But who would beg if they could just have a friend hold their parking spot?
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Posted: Jan 23rd, 2006 02:11 pm |
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hmm cha$ching cha$ching. I think I will buy some land near the school and charge ungodly prices befitting the laws of supply and demand and rent spaces to students muu hahaha. I have seen this at Universities where a business will rent maybe 5 spots and charge exorbitant rates a semester and will rent all spots with other students begging for more.
I wonder why they cant get the land across the st. or other land nearby that nothing but kudzu currently inhabits. (money obviously) Even a rent/contact situation for 3-5 years would enable the property owner to make money and still retain their land for future development/enterprise. May be a good senior project to raise money for a new lot. just food for thought.
However, currently I think the 0 period/ senior rule is the best fit regardless of afterschool activities (work/athletics/clubs, etc). One can always A. ride the bus 2. Carpool or C. wait a few minutes longer until someone (parent, relative, friend that already had left) come pick them up. I remember people even paying for friends gas for rides to/from things in my day.
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Anna Diemer
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Posted: Jan 23rd, 2006 08:18 pm |
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Jacob, Jacob, Jacob. And once more we find another issue that we don't really agree on. ^_^
I can understand that you would lend your parking spot to a friend for a short time that you'd be gone, maybe a week or so. However, if you were to lose your car for a long time due to an accident, then you should surrender your parking spot to Officer Pass. (And this isn't just directed at you, it's toward everyone with a spot.) There have been students on the waiting list since near the beginning of the year that aren't getting to park because students lose their cars and give their spots to their friends.
Of course, we are all a bit hypocritical: I know that I'd take my friend's parking space if he or she offered it to me. But if a student gets in an accident that was their fault, they should lose their parking privilege because of that. It's their responsibility to drive safely so that they can retain their privileges.
I can't complain that I want a real parking spot because I doubt the system will change until next year. I can only lament that more careful thought wasn't put into the system this school year.
And Jacob, I was referring more to the "duplicity" of some parents. It's twice as bad when adults, who are supposed to be mature, help their children to cheat. That's not setting a good example for the kids. Also, I've experienced parents of high schoolers being disrespectful in other ways, such as talking through concerts and performances. But of course, all you adults posting on the forum are wonderful parents who are concerned about their community and local schools (since you're here on the forums).
bama, that's actually not such a bad idea. I have friends across the state who have to pay up to $120 a year to park at school. I realize that it excludes those who could not afford to "rent" a parking spot, but this is a wealthier district...I know there are families out there who have multiple students driving to school in separate cars!
This is making my head spin. 
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Vicki White-Lawrence
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Posted: Jan 23rd, 2006 08:38 pm |
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Some good thought being given here....
Anna, Wanted to let you know that when I was involved with PTSA at the high school (when Ms. Murr was still there) we were working to try to get security cameras installed around campus, including the parking lots. We discussed increasing the cost of parking permits as a way to help cover the cost of such a system but were told by Guilford County Schools that we could not charge any more than the current rate, which at that time was $5.00, I think.
I also wanted to let you know that I TOTALLY AGREE with your comments about adults being rude during meetings, performances, etc. In addition to being rude to people around them, performers, speakers, etc. they are setting a horrible example for their children. I feel very strongly about this and have considered writing an editorial about it for the paper....
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Posted: Jan 24th, 2006 02:30 am |
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How would you suggest that the problem be fixed. I guess this forum is as good as having a meeting at Northwest. Maybe we can come up with good ideas. Northwest's problem is simply putting money where our mouths are. Even creating the new school will not solve the issues with such a large population constantly growing around us. I suggest this. Allowing the Senior priority choice, then students with zero periods, and students who drive to Weaver and work, and lastly a lottery for the remaining spaces. I think this will do for starters.
But I still hold to the idea that parents are ultimately responsible for how their child gets to and from school; via bus, driven or walking. It is never the school's problem. The school simply get information as to how the student will travel, then provide transportation based on their desires. I feel that more students should ride buses, but I know that will not suffice for this community.
Nevertheless, lets try together to work this thing out so that we wont have the problems we've had this year.
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Posted: Jan 24th, 2006 04:47 am |
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| Instead of first come first served,why not a lottery for the parking spaces.
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Posted: Jan 24th, 2006 01:31 pm |
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Woo! That might just cause a riot ff12!
I still think it ought to be based on need... If you take a zero period (and bus service is not available) or you have legitimate afterschool activities, you need a parking pass.
I don't care what grade you're in.
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