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Posted: Sep 17th, 2006 04:56 pm |
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Over half the country voted for President Bush, more people in the history of Presidential elections actually & 44%+ still support him(myself included), we seem to forget all of this.
It would seem that everyone thinks our President is a fool or an idiot, but let us not forget all the Libs, media, etc. that thought Reagan was an idiot & now as a little time has went by we see that he was one of, if not the best Presidents in history....I think the same will be said for George W. Bush, IMAO.
Just as certain people thought Reagan was nuts for taking on Russia(and winning the Cold War), certain people think of W. the same way....even though he's the first person to stand up to terrorists and not flinch despite the Liberal Media, polls & Liberal Democrat's constant onslaught, while on the homefront, unemployment is at or below it's lowest point in history I do believe, and the stock market is about to set an all time record, gas is coming back down, etc. but I guess none of that has anything to do with the President....unless it's going bad & not good.
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Posted: Sep 17th, 2006 05:28 pm |
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WELCOME TO THE FORUM PEACHMAN!!!!
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Posted: Sep 17th, 2006 05:54 pm |
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I wish I could share y'all's enthusiasm fer W, but personally, I think Bush is probably the worst President this country has seen in a long time, regardless of what Reagan did or Kerry might have done.
Somebody like John McCain suits me better.
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macca
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Posted: Sep 17th, 2006 06:12 pm |
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Pappy, I guess I'm a chicken.... I wasn't going to weigh in here, b/c I don't like to get into discussions of controversial issues like religion and politics too much.
I agree with you, Pappy. I saw John McCain on TV this morning.... I've always thought he made a lot of sense, even if he is a Republican. ♥♥♥
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Posted: Sep 17th, 2006 06:41 pm |
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Wow a political debate! I am on Pappy's side in this about W.
I think the american people were lied to about wmd in Iraq and now we have no way out. We have killed 2,600 plus of our youngest and finest. We didn't learn a thing in Vietnam. We are involved in a civil war and we don't know who is on what side just like in Viet Nam.
Haviing said that I think I am probably an indepenent when it comes to voting. I want leaders in this country whose fore most concern is this country. I want everybody who wants a job to be able to get a job. I want everybody to have affordable health care. Don't care who pays for it just want everybody to be able to go to the doctor and be seen with out worrying about losing their house. I think it is probably more efficient to make the employer provide health insurance but if we can't do that then we need the government to do it. My husband's employer says they provide insurance for all employees but two years ago the family coverage for the employee went from $3,000 to over $7,000 in a company where probably 90% of the people make $7 to $10 an hour. Health coverage should not be a choice between eating or health care.
I want leaders who can stop the wholesale crossing of our borders but not demonize the hard working people who are here illegally, just figure out a way to keep the good people and send the few bad ones back to their home country.
I want leaders who are neither owners or receive huge contributions from the oil companies so this country that is goobling up the naturdal resources of the world will seriously look at alternatives. We would save billions of gallons of oil, cut down on air pollution and save peoples live with a national push to good, usable public transportation. If you want to take a train to Memphis you have to go to Chicago. How much sense does that make?
I don't care what political party offers these candidates they are the ones I want in office. Care of the people in our country is what has made us a great country and we seem to some where along the way lost sight of that.
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Posted: Sep 17th, 2006 08:00 pm |
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| Woo hoo! ScubaJane!!! You are my hero!!! Makes sense to me! Love it, love it, love it!!♥♥♥
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Yee haw, Scuba Jane! I b'lieve there are good idees on both sides an' they need to be listened to. The tactics Bush an' that bunch have been usin' to demonize the opposition as unpatriotic if they question his madness is just another form o' terrorism. It ain't doin' America any good. Pappy don't like bein' lied to neither.
Sure is convenient to have a war on hand to use as a excuse fer ever'thang you want done.
I want a leader with a conscience an' a sense o' responsibility to ALL the people an' to the constitution.
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Posted: Sep 17th, 2006 10:03 pm |
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FatPappy wrote: I wish I could share y'all's enthusiasm fer W, but personally, I think Bush is probably the worst President this country has seen in a long time, regardless of what Reagan did or Kerry might have done.
Somebody like John McCain suits me better.
Amen Pappy, Amen. I always knew you were a fine fellow and now I understand another reason why.
I don't intend to be drawn into a political debate. I have many friends of every political persuasion and appreciate all citizens who fully participate in the democratic process to include not only voting but staying informed of the issues, ideas and ideologies.
I am proud to be both a Democrat and a liberal.
Being a Democrat was good enough for my Mama, Daddy, and all 4 Grandparents and it's good enough for me!
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Posted: Sep 17th, 2006 10:32 pm |
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FatPappy wrote: I wish I could share y'all's enthusiasm fer W, but personally, I think Bush is probably the worst President this country has seen in a long time, regardless of what Reagan did or Kerry might have done.
Somebody like John McCain suits me better.
Pappy
I also think Bush has pushed himself into a corner he can't get out of. I sometimes wonder if he has isolated himself away from reality, to the point his staff is afraid to bring him bad news.
What would you think if Rumsfield was pushed out and John McCain put in his job?
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Posted: Sep 17th, 2006 10:33 pm |
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FatPappy wrote: I b'lieve there are good idees on both sides an' they need to be listened to. The tactics Bush an' that bunch have been usin' to demonize the opposition as unpatriotic if they question his madness is just another form o' terrorism. It ain't doin' America any good. Pappy don't like bein' lied to neither.
Sure is convenient to have a war on hand to use as a excuse fer ever'thang you want done.
I want a leader with a conscience an' a sense o' responsibility to ALL the people an' to the constitution. Wow Pappy...........well said !!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Sep 17th, 2006 11:51 pm |
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McCain in Rumsfeld's position? Hmm... Rumsfeld's way past due in my opinion. He's in denial or somethin'.
I reckon I'll leave it there fer now...
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Posted: Sep 18th, 2006 12:11 am |
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Well, well, well..... me and the Peachman were tryin' to get you all out from under those tin foil hats and I reckon it worked didn't it??? tee hee!
I guess I'd have to agree with Jane on this one. In a perfect world we could find a president who wouldn't lie or mislead the American public and could solve all of our problems in the paltry 4-8 years that are allotted. I think they all (Republican or Democrat) start out with good intentions.
I am pretty sure that we have NEVER had an administration that didn't lie or mislead the American public though. Whether it be a health issue, a marital indescretion, the Yalta accords, the Cuban missle crisis, Watergate or Vietnam. It's a shame. We've almost come to expect it and worse than that, we accept it. That is what needs changing in my opinion.
IMHO Bush was the better choice at the time he was elected and it's a shame that he or any president was dealt the hand that he was, and has had to deal with this issue that I think has snowballed and now, they don't know how to stop it. Do I think he was the best person to handle the issues that have come to the surface during his administration? No, I do not. I'm just not sure that we had a better choice put before us at the time.
I've recently changed my affiliation to the Independent party. I've always voted for a candidate based on what he could potentially do for the USA, and have never voted along party lines because there are issues on both sides that I agree with. Just depends on the candidate and his platform.
I promise I'll do my homework on John McCain before I hit the polls....
Just in case! 
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Posted: Sep 18th, 2006 01:42 am |
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You're right, Crackah, even all-American, good-lookin' Kennedy lied to us. If we could hold 'em accountable an' somehow keep money out of the political process, we'd have us somethin' then.
I also think blind allegiance to a party, any party, is not a good idee.
I've never thought Bush was stupid. Far from it. I do think he's been stubbornly short-sighted and egotistically closed-minded at a time when we desperately needed much more. I was proud of him durin' 9/11. It lasted about a week.
What Kerry might have done has nuthin' to do with what Bush has done. Bush knew better and still did what he did. He was going into Iraq one way or another before 9/11 even happened.
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Posted: Sep 19th, 2006 12:58 am |
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Just wanted to jump and and say thanks to y'all for keeping this discussion civil on such a controversial subject. Y'all are great !!
Blog onward.............
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