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Posted: Jul 20th, 2006 02:38 pm |
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Cracker Jax
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Posted: Jul 20th, 2006 08:38 pm |
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Let's talk Turkey shall we??? 
Great job on the Turkey Shoot article Sandra! I think you covered both sides of the issue quite well. I feel a whole lot more educated on the subject now. I'm ready for the public hearing on August 1!
I think I know what side of the fence I'm gonna fall off of though ....
Oh yea... I saw Clewis' "rare" photo in the TC minutes too! Good job catchin' that one Clewis!
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Posted: Aug 3rd, 2006 11:04 pm |
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Cracker Jax wrote:
Let's talk Turkey shall we???
Great job on the Turkey Shoot article Sandra! I think you covered both sides of the issue quite well. I feel a whole lot more educated on the subject now. I'm ready for the public hearing on August 1!
I think I know what side of the fence I'm gonna fall off of though ....
Oh yea... I saw Clewis' "rare" photo in the TC minutes too! Good job catchin' that one Clewis!
so... what I read in this week's NWO was that now they have to get permission to have the shoot?! and the dreaded comment... "There are no more turkey shoots." what does that mean???
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DOGGETTJA
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Posted: Aug 4th, 2006 01:07 am |
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Dtoney- I understand that the turkey shoot that started all this has ceased to be. The Stafford's and the Wildlife Club arrived at an agreement.
The Town Council held the public hearing and the ordinance on Turkey Shoots will change to give the Town more control especially in the case of complaints from citizens if there is a request somewhere else for a turkey shoot.
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Cracker Jax
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Posted: Aug 7th, 2006 02:50 am |
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Sorry... we sorta went off on a tangent in this forum. (guilty) The original comment was on topic but then oh well....
If you have a comment about censorship or the selected books for summer reading there's been a new forum created for that topic so post it over there.
Meanwhile this forum is for Feedback on NWO articles.
Thanks!!!
(Oh yea... I'm not a moderator....I just play one on the forum. SMS is gonna be so proud of me for off topicing myself!)
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Posted: Aug 11th, 2006 05:52 pm |
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Interestin' article on school destruction, I mean, construction in the NWO online edition today. Unbelievable! What a mess! Another nail in the school administration's credibility coffin. Another structural flaw discovered in Grier's leadership. Another cover up, this time usin' the latest tarp an' plywood technology. Somethin' else fer parents to worry about.
Thanks, Sandra. Thanks, Darlene Garrett.
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Posted: Aug 13th, 2006 07:15 pm |
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Good Grief!! Please, get over yourselves. It would be nice to pick up an issue and not have to read your derogatory comments about people that do not agree with your opinions or the way you would do things. If you don't like it, then YOU run for office and change things. It's very easy to be an armchair quarterback and criticize everything that is happening in Summerfield.
You used to have a good paper; now it's nothing more than the Northwest Rhino Times...
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Posted: Aug 13th, 2006 08:10 pm |
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 I'm sorry, but isn't an armchair quaterback... ummmmm kinda like my participation in democracy?
So isn't this wonderful paper.... 
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Posted: Aug 13th, 2006 08:38 pm |
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rogerpeabody wrote: Good Grief!! Please, get over yourselves. It would be nice to pick up an issue and not have to read your derogatory comments about people that do not agree with your opinions or the way you would do things. If you don't like it, then YOU run for office and change things. It's very easy to be an armchair quarterback and criticize everything that is happening in Summerfield.
You used to have a good paper; now it's nothing more than the Northwest Rhino Times...
Not sure where this discussion is headed but given the pointed nature of these comments, I want to remind all participants of the forum policy regarding:
Don't make personal attacks; flame ideas, not people
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Cracker Jax
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Posted: Aug 13th, 2006 09:50 pm |
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rogerpeabody wrote: Good Grief!! Please, get over yourselves. It would be nice to pick up an issue and not have to read your derogatory comments about people that do not agree with your opinions or the way you would do things. If you don't like it, then YOU run for office and change things. It's very easy to be an armchair quarterback and criticize everything that is happening in Summerfield.
You used to have a good paper; now it's nothing more than the Northwest Rhino Times...
Welcome to the forum Rogerpeabody! Glad you've joined us on here. We welcome all opinions on here whether or not we agree with them.
The truth is sometimes hard to swallow isn't it?? Thankfully, the NWO articles and minutes from the town council meetings (SF anyway) are truthful and accurate. I know this, not because I sit in my armchair and wait for the report to come to me every Friday, but because I choose to get out in the community and see for myself what is happening.
Have you read a Rhino Times???? The NWO doesn't even come close. While both are enjoyable, they are two entirely different forms of journalism.
If you prefer a watered down version of the news - something that is piped in from the school board, the city council and the city's mega millionaires - then perhaps you should consider the News and Record. I'd skip the editorial pages though if I were you.... might ruffle your feathers just a bit . Last edited on Aug 13th, 2006 10:32 pm by Cracker Jax
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Posted: Aug 13th, 2006 11:07 pm |
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Hi Roger,
I ditto Cracker's welcome to our forum.
Sorry that my criticism of what I deem to be inappropriate behavior is offensive to you, and that disagreeing with elected officials and expressing it in an editorial is perceived as me being an armchair quarterback. I thought that's what editorials were for -- just to clarify, do you disagree with the concept of editorials, or do you disagree with what I said in my editorial and therefore think I had no right to express my opinion?
You seem to think our paper has gone downhill and I gather the fact that you find it similar to the Rhino Times is not a compliment -- is that because you feel that our editorials find their way into our news articles as they so often do in the Rhino? If so, please elaborate - this is something that we make a conscious effort not to do and I truly do want to hear more about why you think we've failed in this regard.
I strongly feel that challenging behavior and decisions made by the people who represent me is not only my right, but my obligation. The fact that they asked us to elect them so they could represent us makes me hopeful that they want our feedback and that they're tough enough to take criticism -- I don't think we should be disrespectful or call them idiots, but I think we should most definitely tell them when we think they're off base and we should be courageous enough to say this publicly. It doesn't mean that they're always wrong, and it doesn't necessarily mean that we don't appreciate what they're doing -- it means we're being honest and they're being open-minded enough to listen and remember that they as elected officials aren't acting just as individuals - if they were, they could certainly say and do whatever they pleased and I assure you I wouldn't feel a need to comment. But, it is when they act as our representatives that I feel it's very appropriate and necessary for them to hear from me, you, and everyone else who lives here.
Regarding the latest incident, do you think the Town Council was appropriate in discussing the Christmas cards publicly? As I've expressed, I don't think it was worthy of debate in the first place but if it was, in my opinion it didn't need to be done so in front of the very people who had been recipients of the cards in the past, and who would likely be recipients in the future. Additionally, I feel that sending cards to these people is a nice gesture and that rather than debate something like this which has such a minute effect on our taxpayer dollars, the Council's time would be much better spent encouraging volunteers, supporting them, showing them respect when they give their monthly reports at the town council meeting, and thanking them for what they do -- in the long run, the amount we save by supporting and encouraging our volunteers who in turn contribute hundeds of thousands of dollars of free labor to the town far outweighs the cost of sending them Christmas cards each year.
I look forward to hearing your comments on this, as well as future issues, and hope we'll be able to engage in healthy and productive debate. I also welcome you to write editorials of your own and promise that I will not only support your right to have an opinion, regardless of whether it is aligned with my own, but I will pay for the paper to print it on.
Respectfully in disagreement, Patti Stokes
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Posted: Aug 14th, 2006 01:46 am |
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I reckon I should admit right off to a bias. I think the NWO is a very good paper and gettin' better all the time.
Now then, the proposition "if you don't like the way it's done, do it yourself" may seem an effective one to level at any critic. In the case of a citizen offerin' criticism of our government, it don't get too far off the ground, in my opinion. Our government is set up to work best when citizens (yes, even editors) are involved in a thoughtful way. Offerin' a thoughtful criticism, then, is in fact participatin' in government--you might say "doin' it yourself", or at least doin' your part o' the deal, since obviously we cain't all be on the town council.
I think the key word in any discussion an' exercise o' criticism is "thoughtful". If the dissentin' opinion offered is based on knowledgeable reasonin' an' a sincere belief, then I consider it an invaluable asset for movin' our government an' our society forward, whether I agree or not with the particular opinion. I have found the opinions offered in the NWO to be thoughtful an' well intentioned, the way they should be, and in this case I happen to agree that the Christmas card debate was, to loosely paraphrase, ridiculous.
If the dissentin' opinion is less well thought out, then, to be fair, I usually give it the consideration it deserves too.
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Posted: Aug 14th, 2006 02:54 am |
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Cracker Jax wrote:
Have you read a Rhino Times???? The NWO doesn't even come close.
I feel the need to clarify this statement. I did NOT mean that the NWO was inferior to the Rhino AT ALL. I just meant that the NW Observer saves their editorializing for the editorials which the Rhino does not. I'm sure most of you knew what I meant but I wanted to make sure.
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Posted: Aug 14th, 2006 03:07 am |
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Anytime we as citizens have a "forum" in which to voice our opionions, discuss the issues, and get feedback from each other, not only fosters better communication on the issues, but also allows each of us to consider other folks' thoughts. I like considering the NWO and its forum a basis for brainstorming and an excellent arena for provoking thoughts. I'm sure we won't save the entire world by reading about Steve's travels, or the Summerfield hoopla, but at least we have the means to openly discuss it here....
personally I cannot wait until my NWO arrives each week... 
Keep up the good work, folks!
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Posted: Aug 14th, 2006 08:41 pm |
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On my first visit to the forum, I am impressed! I posted here because I also read about the Christmas Card debate in Summerfield and then I read the editorial written by Ms Stokes.
At the risk of putting in my 2 cents worth I have decided to put in 5 cents worth and you all can give back what change you deem appropriate.
I agree with those whose position is, "in the first place, is town council meeting the appropriate venue for a decision about who is going to pay for the volunteers Christmas Cards?" No, it is not! If I were a volunteer (and I am not...at the moment) and I was at that meeting, then come December 20th received my Christmas card in the mail from the grateful town of Summerfield, I will quickly send my Christmas card to the Town of Summerfield with a gift of $1.39 enclosed. $1.00 for the card and .39 for the postage. Which I would hope would be reported on the town ledgers as revenue received.
in the second place. Ms. Stokes works for the paper, she is the Editor. now unless I am mistaken that gives her certain inalienable rights to write editorials. We can write editorials for the NWO also. But, I suspect some of us may ask to have our names withheld to protect the innocent.
That is all I have to say on the matter and hopefully there will be something equally as riveting in this weeks paper that will spawn another exhilarating discussion on the forums.
Sincerely and Humbly,
blessingsalways2u
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