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Posted: Jun 6th, 2007 07:53 pm |
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Town Council will not hear the case. The Planning Board has authority to approve site plans. ( Text Amendment to the Stokesdale Development Ordinance adopted May 18, 2006.) Appeals may be made to the Town Council within 15 days of the Planning Board action. No one appealed the case.
Carolyn Joyner
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I received this answer in an e-mail today from the Town concerning any more planned discussion about the Dollar General.
Mrsnose
Was also told next Planning Board Meeting is July 5th.
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macca
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Posted: Jun 6th, 2007 07:58 pm |
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| I thought this property had been zoned for commercial use all along. There has been a sign on it forever that says "shopping center coming soon" or something like that. How could that sign have been there if it wasn't zoned for commercial use? And Bi-Rite is right across the road from it. Isn't the property it's on zoned for commercial use?
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macca
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Posted: Jun 6th, 2007 08:02 pm |
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mrsnose wrote:
Town Council will not hear the case. The Planning Board has authority to approve site plans. ( Text Amendment to the Stokesdale Development Ordinance adopted May 18, 2006.) Appeals may be made to the Town Council within 15 days of the Planning Board action. No one appealed the case.
Carolyn Joyner
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I received this answer in an e-mail today from the Town concerning any more planned discussion about the Dollar General.
Mrsnose
I think Jim still has the right idea about trying to encourage the builder/developer to make it more attractive.
And it's still important to have stronger ordinances in place for future development, so we could still let Town Council members know we'd like stronger requirements for our town.
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Jim Flynt
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Posted: Jun 6th, 2007 08:14 pm |
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Posted: Jun 6th, 2007 09:10 pm |
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| Mr Flynt-I had done some research thinking I could present it at the Town Council meeting. Things are done a little differently within this township. I can briefly tell you this: Take a look at the Dollar General stores in the neighboring towns of Walkertown, Summerfield and Kernersville, even the one in Madison. Has the planning board dodne this? They are all located in rundown strip malls. Which came first the chicken or the egg? These stores habitually fail to attract neighboring prosperous enterprises to a community. Just go to their website and find out that NC is third on the list of those states having the most Dollar General stores. Why have other states kept the numbers down? Is it because they have "narrow" minded ordinances? How have they mangaed to keep the numbers down? When their is a downturn in business, how many vacant Dollar General stores will NC have? I just feel that Stokesdale is setting a precendent of low class, unprofitable enterprises. Sokesdale is in its infancy regarding commercial development. Beware that once the barn door is left open, any thing may walk through it. We deserve better. Thank you for being a gentleman and answering my questions.
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Posted: Jun 6th, 2007 09:12 pm |
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Corrections to my reply -there and forgive the t left out of Stokesdale. I am just riled up!
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Jim Flynt
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Posted: Jun 6th, 2007 10:21 pm |
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Posted: Jun 6th, 2007 11:26 pm |
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I realized, as Scott and I were talking, that the ORDINANCES are not being reviewed at this time. Some were reviewed and updated last year. There was a special committee that reviewed them, some of whom were members of this current committee, and I'm guessing the town would seek new members when they decide to formally review them again.
What IS being reviewed at this time is the Stokesdale Land Use Plan, and the folks I listed in my prior e-mail are reviewing it. All of these people, along with others, served on the original committee that developed this plan.
I copied this from the Town of Stokesdale web site:
Stokesdale Future Land Use Plan
The Stokesdale Future Land Use Plan was developed by a committee of citizens who were appointed by the Town Council to create a land use plan for the Town. Technical assistance was provided by County Planning Staff. A land use plan is a planning tool that provides the community a "roadmap" to guide growth so that it occurs in a predictable manner to best suite the needs of current and future citizens. After public input and review, the Stokesdale Future Land Use Plan was adopted by the Stokesdale Town Council on September 20, 2001.
This group has been meeting and reviewing the current plan (which is available to download from the town web site) and will present its recommendation about the plan this summer. Again, their next meeting is next Wednesday, June 13, at 7:00 pm at Town Hall.
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Posted: Jun 6th, 2007 11:41 pm |
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Mr. Flynt, one last point and we will let the matter die a peaceful death. Your insight and knowledge has been greatly appreciated. I will disclose this much. I was a tax assessor (residential and commercial) for 20 years in the Town of Babylon, NY.
Now I will devulge the origin of my frustrations with this situation. One of my duties was to take part in researching tax grievances and certiorari cases on behalf of the sole assessor of our town. One of the complaints we faced were the degradation of the values in a neighborhood by "seedy" businesses that operated within the Town. Now since we don't have a Town tax, this is a moot issue at this point. Please don't tell me that these eyesores don't run down the value of an area. I still cannot conceive that there is no alternative to just opening the door for any type of business desiring to settle in Stokesdale. Is the gentleman in question willing to let me open a massage parlor in one of his structures. I , of course am being sarcastic. Please accept my apologies.
I might add, that I had given my name in to Mrs Joyner when there were to be one or two vacancies on the Planning Board. I gave her my qualifications and never heard from her again. Peace be with you! And thanks again. I rest my case.
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Jim Flynt
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Posted: Jun 7th, 2007 12:42 am |
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Posted: Jun 7th, 2007 04:06 pm |
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It is my understanding that any citizen can ask for a review of or propose a change to an ordinance at any time. You don't have to serve on the council, planning board or any committee to do it.
Vicki is correct about the zoning of that property. It has been zoned commercial for years (maybe since before Stokesdale became a town), so the town council didn't vote on that issue. The fact that somebody recently bought it and decided to develop it commercially is the only difference.
Jim is right that the town can't legally say "We don't want any Dollar General stores here." If the property is zoned for a shopping center, then as far as the town goes, any business that fits in that criteria would be allowed. It is, however, up to the landlord what kind of tenants they want to rent to and whether they keep up their property.
My understanding is also that a town can't say "We won't allow any adult massage parlors in our town." I know in Oak Ridge, such businesses can only be located in areas zoned for General Business and there are also certain development standards they have to meet (i.e., cannot be closer than 1,000 ft. from a church, daycare, school, park or residentially-zoned area). Since there are few if any properties that meet this criteria, it would be hard to have such a business there. I don't know if Stokesdale has standards such as this, but it's not hard to find out and if not, residents could ask for a review of the ordinance.
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Posted: Jun 7th, 2007 04:22 pm |
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Posted: Jun 7th, 2007 05:53 pm |
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Posted: Jun 7th, 2007 09:12 pm |
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Posted: Jun 7th, 2007 11:25 pm |
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