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Posted: Jun 4th, 2007 07:36 pm |
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The main thing we had going for us in Oak Ridge is that the Commons is located in the historic district so we had some input on what it would look like. Since not all of Oak Ridge is in the historic district the other tool we have is all of 68 and 150 and some of Bunch Road is in a scenic corridor.
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Posted: Jun 4th, 2007 08:03 pm |
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| Yes, I know. However, Stokesdale can still try to keep things pretty here. The residents deserve it. I have seen some pretty ugly looking strip malls with Dollar Generals around here.
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Posted: Jun 4th, 2007 08:08 pm |
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| I give Oak Ridge credit that they didn't wait until the figurative "horse got out of the barn". It is too late to act after a town has been taken over by tacky, and useless businesses. Keep up the good work Oak Ridge. Can't wait until the book store opens. The Town Council of Stokesdale has a job to do and that is to act in the best interest of its residents.
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Posted: Jun 4th, 2007 08:15 pm |
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| Mr. Flynt, I hope we can count on you to attend the Town Council meeting when the vote is taken!
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Posted: Jun 5th, 2007 03:38 am |
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Posted: Jun 5th, 2007 01:36 pm |
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Thank you! 
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Posted: Jun 5th, 2007 04:37 pm |
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I hope Stokesdale residents realize that if they don't speak up, they can't change anything. If you don't like the way something is going to look, you need to let your council members know. You can give them a call or send them an e-mail, or you can call town hall and ask Carolyn Joyner to pass your message on to the council members.
While the scenic corridor ordinance will help this building look better than it would have otherwise, you should ask the town council to make some changes to the development ordinance if you're not happy. Generally speaking, ordinance changes don't happen overnight. Before the "horse gets out of the barn" (as somebody just put it), you should push for stricter building standards if that's what you want.
I love the way Summerfield Village on Highway 220 looks, but I know the only reason it looks that way is because the ordinance said it had to.
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Posted: Jun 6th, 2007 01:58 am |
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Posted: Jun 6th, 2007 02:11 am |
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| How does one get involved after developers present their projects prior to open forums within the Town. I am drawing from professional experience when I say you must not sacrifice a vital commercial site for the sake of "just building something after 18 years of waiting for a store". This hs been one of the most repeated phrases that I have heard regarding this project. This is one of the poorest excuses for developing a piece of land. It leads to helter skelter development. I don't mind seeing the pines on that corner. I have friends who are planting pines and bushes to bring back the rural look.
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Posted: Jun 6th, 2007 10:15 am |
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I believe the issue is more with our ordinances than with folks having their minds made up ahead of time. As long as a plan meets the ordinance for that area, planning boards and town councils are hard pressed to deny. To do so could result in legal action against the municipality.
Stokesdale's ordinances are currently under review. Members of the Land Use Committeee are reviewing them in preparation for presenting them to Town Council this summer. (The town put out a request for volunteers for the committee to review the ordinances earlier this year but I don't believe anyone outside this committee volunteered.)
The next meeting of this group is Wednesday, June 13, at 7:00 pm at Town Hall. This is an open meeting and, while you would have no vote, you could offer your input. When the plan is presented to Town Council (it will be noted in the Northwest Observer when this will happen), that would be the time to let Council members know what standards you want to be met in our town. I believe we've seen evidence that shows that some developers will do minimally what they must to meet these standards. If we expect them to do more, we must make sure our ordinances require it.
As a side note, we have 3 seats that will be open on our Town Council this year. (John Flynt, Bobby Richardson and Powell Shelton) I have no idea whether any of them are running again, but as a person who attends every Town Council meeting, I can tell you I'd have a hard time voting for someone who isn't there at meetings to see for him/herself what is going on. I don't understand how people can think they can go from not being involved at all to being a person who makes decisions for our town and its future.
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Posted: Jun 6th, 2007 02:36 pm |
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Vicki White-Lawrence wrote: I believe the issue is more with our ordinances than with folks having their minds made up ahead of time. As long as a plan meets the ordinance for that area, planning boards and town councils are hard pressed to deny. To do so could result in legal action against the municipality.
Stokesdale's ordinances are currently under review. Members of the Land Use Committeee are reviewing them in preparation for presenting them to Town Council this summer. (The town put out a request for volunteers for the committee to review the ordinances earlier this year but I don't believe anyone outside this committee volunteered.)
The next meeting of this group is Wednesday, June 13, at 7:00 pm at Town Hall. This is an open meeting and, while you would have no vote, you could offer your input. When the plan is presented to Town Council (it will be noted in the Northwest Observer when this will happen), that would be the time to let Council members know what standards you want to be met in our town. I believe we've seen evidence that shows that some developers will do minimally what they must to meet these standards. If we expect them to do more, we must make sure our ordinances require it.
As a side note, we have 3 seats that will be open on our Town Council this year. (John Flynt, Bobby Richardson and Powell Shelton) I have no idea whether any of them are running again, but as a person who attends every Town Council meeting, I can tell you I'd have a hard time voting for someone who isn't there at meetings to see for him/herself what is going on. I don't understand how people can think they can go from not being involved at all to being a person who makes decisions for our town and its future. Vicki, I agree with what you've said. Do you know who serves on the Land Use Committee and how to contact them? Even if people can't attend that meeting, they could let the committee know that they would really like to see some changes in the ordinance regarding development standards.
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Posted: Jun 6th, 2007 03:43 pm |
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| Town Council members Mickie Halbrook and John Flynt, Robert Wurz (Stonefield Cellars), Scott Lawrence, Stewart Hommel and Richard Millard all serve on it. Folks could also go to the town web site (http://www.stokesdale.org) for contact information for Town Hall.
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Posted: Jun 6th, 2007 07:24 pm |
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Thank you for your reply. I certainly will attend the Town Council meeting and have prepared some research regarding this venture. I know first hand how some one can go to court and win his case. He can then build what he proposed. I also know that the town I retired from learned the hard way with run-down, decrepit,vacant strip malls. I think there are reasons this project could be denied.
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Posted: Jun 6th, 2007 07:40 pm |
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Posted: Jun 6th, 2007 07:48 pm |
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| So what you are telling me is, this is a done deal and Stokesdale is ready for the sloppiest Dollar store of all that are presently in business. Unbelievable. How in heaven's name did Oak Ridge keep these lowlife stores out of their domain? Thanks for you answer. So why should I attend te Concil meeting? To be frustrated? Tweety
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