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Posted: Mar 19th, 2007 01:43 am |
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Baseball Buddy wrote: When looking at properties around the area ( Lord only knows how much time I have spent doing that) for ballfields, the properties I, along with several others viewed along 220 and 150 noticed that when we were turning right people would not slow down that were behind you to let you turn in. They would blow their horn and pass you on the other side of a double yellow on both of these roads. Both of these roads have heavy traffic and unless you have a turn in and turn out lane or a traffic light it could be hazardous. Safety should come first.
Centrally located close to the Summerfield school. We will still use this facility as long as Guilford county will allow. Transporting equipment will be one issue from one facility to another also.
I'm not sure about the turning issue. People are turning left and right all the time on these roads. Maybe it was because you were not sure where the turn-in was as you were lookkng for something unfamiliar. Also, 220 will be a four lane divided highway in a few years.
So I get that centraly located is good for the people transporting stuff from one field to the other. But you might consider that where you are talking about locating is the most densely populated area in the entire town, so you are also inconveniencing the largest number of people possible with, traffic, light pollution, and noise pollution.
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Posted: Mar 19th, 2007 02:09 am |
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| An issue with 220 depending on where the property is will be turning across. The DOT only allows turn across every 1500 feet on a divided hyway so it will be important for ease and safety to be sure there will be a turn across so that people will not be doing a lot of uturns.
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Posted: Mar 19th, 2007 02:17 am |
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DOGGETTJA wrote: An issue with 220 depending on where the property is will be turning across. The DOT only allows turn across every 1500 feet on a divided hyway so it will be important for ease and safety to be sure there will be a turn across so that people will not be doing a lot of uturns.
How in the world did they ever develop Bur-Mill Park on Highway 220?
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Posted: Mar 19th, 2007 02:29 am |
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| The road along there will not be a divided hyway. I don't think the divided hyway will start until Strawberry road going North through Summerfield. They have light at Owls roost so it would have a cut through regardless.
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Baseball Buddy
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Posted: Mar 19th, 2007 11:59 am |
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| Bur Mill is not on 220. It is on a road off 220 Owls Roost. It has very little traffic other than the Deputies and people who live in the neighborhood. I notice that park is in a neighborhood. Owls roost also has a traffic light. Last edited on Mar 19th, 2007 12:00 pm by Baseball Buddy
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Posted: Mar 19th, 2007 10:15 pm |
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OK, thank you for staying in this conversation. It is obviously important to us, and a lot of others as well, so I'm surprised more aren't participating.
So location of fields needs to be considered. Are there parts of Summerfield that are just out of consideration for anyone?
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DOGGETTJA
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Posted: Mar 19th, 2007 10:21 pm |
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| For lighted ballfields there are better places then others so while there are no places absolutely off limits, that I know of, to consider, one of the considerations will be how heavely it is developed. The smaller park being offered at Armfields would not be lighted.
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Baseball Buddy
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Posted: Mar 20th, 2007 12:13 am |
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| Over the past few years, We have looked at several locations for ball fields. We meaning myself, Tom Valent (who is a Realtor that pulled all properties in Summerfield large enough for ball fields from the tax records at the courthouse) , later added George Holub, Michael Brandt, and Councilman Bob Williams. Also my son for a child and players input. After looking at these properties we narrowed it down to 9. Keep in mind we only looked in Summerfield corporate limits at that time. At that point these 9 got narrowed to 3 buy the Parks and Rec committee. I attend the meetings as a rep for SRA and have no voting power or decision making power during the meetings. Then during a Town Council meeting it was brought up by DC that he knew of another property just outside of town.This property did not pan out for the seller or the Town. Several meetings took place over the past months. The committee decided that the best property site was the Friddle property. After this was decided, 2 more properties all of a sudden became available. Coincidental? I don't know but it seems to me this is another delay. I am not one to jump into things with doing my "DUE DILIGENCE" but "PARALYSIS THROUGH ANALYSIS" is what this is looking like.
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Posted: Mar 20th, 2007 11:27 am |
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| I am begining to feel that way too Base Ball Buddy. I hear there are 30 acres available in Pakistan that would be good for ball fields. Enough already. It is time to buy and start building or what ever it is you do to make ballfields. These will probably not be the last ballfields built in Summerfield.
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Posted: Mar 20th, 2007 01:14 pm |
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I agree that there is a point when no amount of further analysis will make the decision easier. And there's not some numbering system that will give the magic "right" answer either.
Demcracy is not always the fastest form of government. When Summerfield residents voted to incorporate as a seperate town, I think one of the promises we held was that we would get a greater role in our government's decisions.
What is the harm in looking at the selection process for the ballfields.
My question to BB is of the nine sites you identified at one point, what criterea were used to eliminate them, or what attributes have made the 'Friddle' property rise to the top.
I applaud your hard work (both BB and Jane) in this process, but this is our government business and the public has a right to know how we got to where we are, and the basis of our decisions. Yes, there will be other ballfields in the future, but right now we're talking about spending $1.5 million and possibly significantly deteriorating the value of property and quality of life of some people. Don't you think that's worth an open discussion?
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Posted: Mar 20th, 2007 04:58 pm |
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Shamu wrote: I applaud your hard work (both BB and Jane) in this process, but this is our government business and the public has a right to know how we got to where we are, and the basis of our decisions. Yes, there will be other ballfields in the future, but right now we're talking about spending $1.5 million and possibly significantly deteriorating the value of property and quality of life of some people. Don't you think that's worth an open discussion?
No offense, but, exactly where have you been for the several years this has been going on, Shamu?
You can debate all you want, in the meantime our kids are staying up until 9 and 10 at night just to try and fit in a practice. You should have gotten more involved when this started YEARS ago.
It's not rocket science, it's baseball. Summerfield isn't that big. There are only so many locations to choose from. Frankly, I am amazed they were able to find 9 possible sites, and I am sure it wasn't difficult, through deductive reasoning and common sense, to narrow that down in 'two shakes of a lambs tail'.
Thank you BB! You make Summerfield a better place for our children to live. Otherwise they would be formin' gangs and slingin' dope.
As for Jim's golf, I hear Armfield has 90 acres available.
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Posted: Mar 20th, 2007 10:33 pm |
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I am new to the forum, but not to the news of Summerfield wanting to build new ballfields. I support BB 100% for trying to achieve a better community for our youth.
Get off the subject of golf courses here in Summerfield--move to Forest Oakes or Some place that has 18 holes. All we want are a couple of baseball diamonds so that our kids can have a place to play ball at suitable times that accomodate everyones schedule.
Shamu--do you have a hidden agenda? Your views seem try to support both parties supporting and opposing -- how is quality of life threatened by a few lights and joyful sounds of kids enjoying their neighborhood? Parents loving to see their kids interact with others and socialize themselves in a healthy living environment.
Town council please move forward on this! Our land here in Summerfield is diminishing quickly and the number of children are multiplying much more rapidly.
I grew up in this community,played on the old ballfield myself--and I hate what is happening in the neighborhood as far as politics go.
GRITS--Girl Raised in True Summerfield.
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Posted: Mar 20th, 2007 10:58 pm |
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Yes Grits i am new to the northwest forum also. I agree fully on what you are saying. I too grew up in summerfield and played ball there and i would hate for it to go down in a bad way. I love what bb is trying to do for summerfield and yes kids do need to play sports and at suitible times. One thing that i think would be really great to do with it is instead of just having ballfields have multiple things like a screen for a movie to play say on every satuday night. If people of summerfield want to go do something on a saturday night they could drive up to the ballfield and watch a movie and catch dinner there to from the consesion stand. I also think if we had two big fields and two of every field we could have multiple games going on. this would allow kids to get home at a suitible time to do all there homework. This would also allow more games to go on in one season.
one who truly cares,
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Posted: Mar 21st, 2007 12:26 am |
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Hey Easton Boy, Great name. Anybody that knows his equipment knows your name. TRUE BASEBALL. Thanks for the kind words Grits and Easton Boy. Summerfieldrd your correct in saying it is not rocket science. The good LORD only knows how many people have tried to make a simple thing difficult by over analyzing. In my business I have to go into other companies and analyze what they are doing and make changes for the better. I am not paid to over analyze, just make the correct call for better efficiency. I save them money and time. So , now you see why I find it hard when we have been working on this for a long time and now more delays.
Hey Grits I'll bet you know my wife. She grew up here also along with 6 sisters and a brother.
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Posted: Mar 21st, 2007 01:15 am |
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Wow! I'm having a hard time keeping up with all of these new members! Welcome to the forum Easton Boy and GRITS!!!!!
Glad you explained that name, Baseball Buddy! I'm obviously one who is not familiar with that equipment.
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