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Posted: Mar 18th, 2007 01:18 am |
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EditorPS wrote: As for me, I'll gladly contribute to ball fields and parks for about $10 a month --
It's a deal, Patti! Please make out your check to the Town of Oak Ridge! Thanks!
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Posted: Mar 18th, 2007 01:37 am |
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Only if things were that simple. Sounds great to me.
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Posted: Mar 18th, 2007 01:40 am |
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WHE wrote: EditorPS wrote: As for me, I'll gladly contribute to ball fields and parks for about $10 a month --
It's a deal, Patti! Please make out your check to the Town of Oak Ridge! Thanks!
But I live in Summerfield, WHE ... and I already pay my $10 a month -- with no complaints.
You guys in Oak Ridge are doing a great job, though, and you will have a beautiful park when it is completed - right across the street from your very classy town hall! All the while, I'm afraid we'll still be sitting here in the corner counting our pennies and talking about why we can't provide those same things for our residents.
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Posted: Mar 18th, 2007 02:09 am |
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TRUE DAT
as my son would say
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Posted: Mar 18th, 2007 02:49 am |
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EditorPS wrote: All the while, I'm afraid we'll still be sitting here in the corner counting our pennies and talking about why we can't provide those same things for our residents.
Hey, there's much to be said about...what is it, a 3.8 cent tax rate? Besides, rumor has it that SF is sitting on a pile of cash just waiting to invest it in some hot real estate. Just hope there aren't any more computer "glitches" along the way.
One day, I would like to see some athletic competition between SF, OR & Stokesdale, and perhaps a Northwest Champion Cup! It would be a great rivalry and lots of fun.
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Posted: Mar 18th, 2007 10:20 am |
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Already happens each year in All Stars.
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Posted: Mar 18th, 2007 03:19 pm |
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WHE wrote:
One day, I would like to see some athletic competition between SF, OR & Stokesdale, and perhaps a Northwest Champion Cup! It would be a great rivalry and lots of fun.
Baseball Buddy wrote: Already happens each year in All Stars.
I'd like to see it happen on our new baseball fields!...Skiddle-dee-dee
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Posted: Mar 18th, 2007 03:31 pm |
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I have a question... with the Loflin and Summerfiled Elementary school discussions, what could this mean to the existing baseball fields in Summerfield? ... just curious if this has been discussed yet.
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Posted: Mar 18th, 2007 03:34 pm |
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Vicki White-Lawrence wrote: I live in the neighborhood where the Stokesdale ball park is located. I've lived here for 20 years, and I'm told that the ball park has been here for at least 40 years.
Aside from lights shining thru the trees in early spring and late winter, and some minor traffic issues, I wouldn't even know there is a ball park there. Oh yes, sometimes I hear cheers from the park, but that is actually a nice thing. (Traffic issues: a few folks who drive too fast in or out sometimes. People also seem to forget there is a stop sign as they leave the road leading to the park. Maybe they forget that there could be traffic coming the other way since it is a dead end road.)
My guess is that if you polled my neigbors they would either say they don't think that much about it (the ball park was here before most of the current residents) or that if it bothers them it is not a big deal. One thing I have noticed in the past couple of years is the increase in traffic in and around the park.
As a member of the Parks & Rec Board, I know that there is an increase in the number of children wanting to play. The Board has looked at different ways of making the most of the space they have, and have lobbied the Town to offer "multipurpose" fields on the 25 acres the town has purchased so that soccer can be moved there. As Sandra mentioned, we currently use everything at the current park except the infields when we run our soccer program. For all of the sports offered in Stokesdale, it is hard to offer as much as is needed because, in addition to playing games there, we need practice time on the fields. Children need time to work on skills in addition to participating in games.
One other point I'd like to add: I think people who say they shouldn't have to pay for recreation areas because they don't have children don't see the big picture. I think the parks help foster friendships, a sense of community and so much more than just offering kids a place to play. Jane's point about obesity and pollution was right on.... We need to offer viable options to watching TV and playing video games so that our children get out and exercise more (while they're playing) and breathing that fresh air. And instead of developing every inch of space, who not have it as an area for recreation -- why not, say, as ball fields and maybe even a walking track (or trail) around it? I think the argument could be made that we are actually making our communities safer and healthier for EVERYONE by having more ball fields.
That is good information, and I think I know a little about the field you live near. Maybe someone else can provide more specifics on that field for us, but I don't think that the Stokesdale field is similar to what the Summerfield ballfield proponents are desiring. Mostly in terms of size but probably other factors as well.
I think, on the other end of the spectrum from Stokesdale, drive by the Carolyn Allen fields on Horsepen Creek Road that were built and opened in the last year. These fields are visible from Guilford College (3-4 miles away) on nights when the lights are on. It is a complex of fields, of similar size in acreage to what Summerfield is looking for.
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Posted: Mar 18th, 2007 04:08 pm |
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I live several miles away from Northwest High School and hear every home football game that they have. The band and cheers from the crowd amazingly travels along way. However it doesn't bother me, matter of fact I kind'a like it as it brings back those fun high school days. I do have to say, not everyone would find these noises a wonderful flashback of ol' time sake, so I agree it's very important that Summerfield is sensitive to this. Having said this ... I do hope that Summerfield will find ball field land soon because we are running out of options!
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Posted: Mar 18th, 2007 05:42 pm |
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EditorPS wrote: Shamu wrote: Finding the best place for the ballfields will be a situation of discussion and compromise, but if Summerfield can't do this in a fair, above-board and understandable way, who can? This may actually be the true test of what Summerfiled is all about.
Shamu, I believe in one of your earliest posts you commented something to the extent that the TOWN doesn't have feelings and best interests -- PEOPLE do -- and you're right. At this moment in time WE are the town, and this type of debate will be the true test for what WE are about. Can WE be fair, can WE be above-board and can WE compromise?
I think we are all guilty of referencing "the town" when we want to put the responsibility on it, as an inanimate object, versus on ourselves. So, can WE be fair and civil and open-minded?
Thanks, I do mean we and I can only hope that all of Summerfield is interested in being fair, above-board and willing to compromise. Maybe even that is too presumptive. I hope not!!
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Posted: Mar 18th, 2007 06:01 pm |
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Baseball Buddy wrote: A good location should be centrally located. Away from the main highways (220 and 150) and have good access.
Shamu, very good question. Funding can be done numerous ways, but right now the Town of Summerfield has 1.5 million dollars budgeted for this. After that there are matching grants and even private grants . I imagine after that it will be self funded.
What is the reasoning behind "away from 220 and 150'. I would think proximity to these roads would be beneficial as long as good safe access is provided. And I think central can be defined in a lot of ways. What does central mean to you, and what is the value of it?
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Posted: Mar 18th, 2007 10:02 pm |
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When looking at properties around the area ( Lord only knows how much time I have spent doing that) for ballfields, the properties I, along with several others viewed along 220 and 150 noticed that when we were turning right people would not slow down that were behind you to let you turn in. They would blow their horn and pass you on the other side of a double yellow on both of these roads. Both of these roads have heavy traffic and unless you have a turn in and turn out lane or a traffic light it could be hazardous. Safety should come first.
Centrally located close to the Summerfield school. We will still use this facility as long as Guilford county will allow. Transporting equipment will be one issue from one facility to another also.
Last edited on Mar 18th, 2007 10:06 pm by Baseball Buddy
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Posted: Mar 18th, 2007 11:50 pm |
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Baseball Buddy wrote: Safety should come first.
Amen
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Posted: Mar 19th, 2007 01:32 am |
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Shamu wrote: That is good information, and I think I know a little about the field you live near. Maybe someone else can provide more specifics on that field for us
Shamu, just to clear up perhaps one misconception, the Stokesdale Community Park actually has two ballfields.
Another thing worth mentioning, is that there ARE other ballfields in Stokesdale and the Stokesdale area, which somehow or other, never seem to get mentioned.
On Saturday, I drove to Kernersville, and the Bethel United Methodist Church (on Haw River Road) youth and their parents were having a 'Kite Day' complete with numerous activities for children of all ages and the church parking lot and recreation field lots were full. They have scheduled, organized and supervised recreational activities at this church on a regular basis and they do in fact, have a baseball field that they own and which was built entirely without any taxpayer or public money. I think the youth recreational activities are open to any child in the public, no matter whether or not a member of the church.
There is also, I believe, an additional ballfield in the Happy Hill area which was constructed by either the church or neighborhood there for the children of my friends of color.
I am also well aware of numerous ballfields which I have seen in several local counties and their more rural communities which were built by and on property owned by local nieghborhood churches and wonder why the churches in Summerfield and perhaps, even the larger Northwest area, don't take a more active role in providing recreational opportunities for the children of their churches? They do it in so many other communities and counties, that it begs the question why it isn't done more here?
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