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Cracker Jax
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 Posted: Mar 6th, 2007 11:51 am
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Basically Macca, Strickland saying "point of order" means nothing other than it's a little signal to us that we've gotten under her skin. 



Now if Mayor Brown says "point of order" for some reason, then we need to pay attention...


And it was notable that Strickland didn't call "point of order" on Citizen Dunham when she refused to listen to the mayor when he told her that her 5 minutes were up.

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 Posted: Mar 6th, 2007 01:37 pm
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Ms. Strickland wrote:"Mr. Copeland and the SRA have only themselves to blame for the state of disrepair of the Summerfield Elementary School ball fields – not the Town of Summerfield. The town did its job; the SRA has not."

My response to Ms. Strickland is, my children have now played for 12 years on the Summerfield Elementary School ball fields and I have never witnessed any disrepair of ball fields. To the contrary, I have witnessed nothing but hard working volunteers that have put many, many hours of their time and effort making these facilities well kept, clean and safe for our children. I take issue with Ms. Strickland's letter and find it offesive.

Thank you SRA for offering a fine program for our children.

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 Posted: Mar 6th, 2007 02:26 pm
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On soapbox:

Once you get past the personal styles of various members of the advisarial groups in Summerfield isn't the real disagreement about public versus private funding of community projects?

I think it is possible for reasonable persons to be in favor of community ballfields, parks and amphitheaters but against public funding of some or all of those projects. I also think it is possible for reasonable persons to be in favor of public funding of such projects.

We see large city, state and national governments wrestle with these same issues on a larger scale. Should the City of Greensboro fund renovations of the coliseum? - I think it did. Should the city fund building a new baseball stadium - I think it was mostly private funds.

These are issues of legitimate debate where reasonable people can disagree but the battles should be fought with the power of persuasive and factual arguments. Disagreeing with your advisaries because you are not convinced by their arguments is legitimate. Disagreeing with your advisaries simply because they are your advisaries or simply because you want to win is counterproductive.

I would hope that the "win at any cost" attitudes we see so much of in politics does not take root here in Summerfield.

Off soapbox.

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 Posted: Mar 6th, 2007 03:45 pm
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Well said Salty



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 Posted: Mar 6th, 2007 07:31 pm
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SaltyDog wrote: I would hope that the "win at any cost" attitudes we see so much of in politics does not take root here in Summerfield.

I agree! :D  

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 Posted: Mar 7th, 2007 01:09 am
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SaltyDog wrote:
Once you get past the personal styles of various members of the advisarial groups in Summerfield isn't the real disagreement about public versus private funding of community projects?

I think it is possible for reasonable persons to be in favor of community ballfields, parks and amphitheaters but against public funding of some or all of those projects.

 

Amen Salty. You give voice to the truth.

From the words of a sermon from Dr. Martin Luther King:

I would like to use as a subject from which to preach this morning: "Remaining Awake Through a Great Revolution." The text for the morning is found in the book of Revelation. There are two passages there that I would like to quote, in the sixteenth chapter of that book: "Behold I make all things new; former things are passed away."

I am sure that most of you have read that arresting little story from the pen of Washington Irving entitled "Rip Van Winkle." The one thing that we usually remember about the story is that Rip Van Winkle slept twenty years. But there is another point in that little story that is almost completely overlooked. It was the sign in the end, from which Rip went up in the mountain for his long sleep.

When Rip Van Winkle went up into the mountain, the sign had a picture of King George the Third of England. When he came down twenty years later the sign had a picture of George Washington, the first president of the United States. When Rip Van Winkle looked up at the picture of George Washington—and looking at the picture he was amazed—he was completely lost. He knew not who he was.

And this reveals to us that the most striking thing about the story of Rip Van Winkle is not merely that Rip slept twenty years, but that he slept through a revolution. While he was peacefully snoring up in the mountain a revolution was taking place that at points would change the course of history—and Rip knew nothing about it. He was asleep. Yes, he slept through a revolution. And one of the great liabilities of life is that all too many people find themselves living amid a great period of social change, and yet they fail to develop the new attitudes, the new mental responses, that the new situation demands. They end up sleeping through a revolution.

 



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 Posted: Mar 7th, 2007 03:07 pm
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I am very disappointed by the negative report in the News and record this morning on the land aquisition several years ago by Bob Williams.

I wonder does Mr. Crawford feel that the town would be better served by people who didn't live here or maybe people who don't  want Summerfield to progress. Lots of people own property in the core of Summerfield should they be ban from being on the council because they might have a vested interest in the growth and development of the down town area? There was absolutely no thought of ball fields on that end of Summerfield road when Mr. Williams bought his property. 

Oh and I know 4 other left handed people who have bought property in the last few years in the core area of Summerfield. Wonder if they are in on the conspiracy that Mr. Crawford feels is be foisted on the citizens of Summerfield? To carry this logic? a bit further should we maybe have an ordinance forbidding left handed people from running for office in Summerfield?

Thank you Bob for your hard work and unselfish volunteering of your time to make summerfield a better place for all of us.  

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 Posted: Mar 7th, 2007 04:47 pm
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DOGGETTJA wrote:
Thank you Bob for your hard work and unselfish volunteering of your time to make summerfield a better place for all of us.  


Pappy'll second that, Jane. We do appreciate you, Bob!

***NEWS FLASH*** The results Crawford has obtained from his "ethics smell test" may be skewed by his own stink.









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 Posted: Mar 7th, 2007 05:46 pm
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I just read the story online and my reaction as a non-involved party would be "so what?". If I didnt know any better, I would not react to the story at all. Crawford showed his side and Williams showed his. At the end of the article, I really wasnt convinced williams did anything wrong. I didnt think the article was particularly negative- just pointless to air the SFTC's laundry (dirty or not- has yet to be decided).

In other words, News and Record, don't waste my time and your paper space with this trash until there's a real outcome or issue going on. They don't report when someone calls and says "so and so has a gun in their house so I bet they have committed a crime". They wait until theres obvious evidence of the crime and then they report the crime. (bad analogy I know but i wasn't going to sit here all day to think of one) anyway, don't waste my time until there's somethign worth reporting. --puuuhhhleasse.


-oh wait. this is the news and record. useless garbage anyway- I think I'd use pine cones and poison ivy before I would use the N&R if I was stuck in a bind. haha.

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 Posted: Mar 7th, 2007 11:35 pm
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DOGGETTJA wrote: Thank you Bob for your hard work and unselfish volunteering of your time to make summerfield a better place for all of us.  


Ditto Jane & Pappy

I posted a comment under the GRR article to let folks know Councilman Crawford is just proud of Councilman Williams, and wants to ensure he gets appropriate recognition.   It's all I can figure out from the article????

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 Posted: Mar 8th, 2007 11:14 pm
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Pappy was happy to see a response from the mayor in support o' "well-respected community volunteers" Jay Copeland an' Tom Valent. That letter was in the latest NWO, by the way.

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 Posted: Mar 9th, 2007 12:22 pm
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Good to the mayor.  I know that took a lot of guts but it was the right thing to do.

I hate that a citizen of this town has to write a letter defending himself for doing nothing wrong.  I thought Tom did a great job with his letter also. 

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 Posted: Mar 10th, 2007 04:39 pm
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Just saw Jane on TV!!!!!  She was on Channel 14 talkin' about the Manager/Council form of government.


They also interviewed a man at the barber shop who said that he was in support of the change.  He said that he didn't like the way things were moving so s-l-o-w-l-y in our town.


Woo Hoo Jane!  Good Job!



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 Posted: Mar 10th, 2007 06:41 pm
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Thanks Cracker- Did I sound fairly knowledgeable? He actually asked some very good questions so I could explain our position.


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