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Posted: Feb 15th, 2007 01:55 am |
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Cracker Jax wrote:
Yep! And Good job speaking SMS!
Wonder what Crawford was thinking when he "warned" the FFS and reminded us that he "foolishly" backed that Mayor referendum and then backed out of it?
What foolish thing is he thinking that the FFS are gonna do?
Maybe Dwayne thinks FFS is going to pursue the same path as CC's?
Wrong !!
We're not going to write a history book of "documentation", don't need it when you're looking to the future.
We appreciate the opportunity to use all the CC's mistakes as lessons learned so FFS can be 10X stronger than CC's ever thought about being. Thank You CC's.
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Posted: Feb 15th, 2007 02:13 am |
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I know this comment is not going to sit well with some if not many of you, but at least for last night, it seems to me that the two CC's on the Summerfield Town Council were truly the real 'Friends' of Summerfield in joining with Carolyn Collins to vote FOR the future and the citizen interests for Summerfield residents by voting AGAINST Armfield.
For those Summerfield voters who believe that the best interests of Summerfield citizens should take a higher priority than the interests of the real estate developers, I'm sure their three votes last night will long be remembered favorably and I doubt that the votes of the two who voted FOR the developers will be forgotten by Summerfield voters either.
Let's at least be intellectually honest enough to give proper credit where credit is due.
Now take your best shots at me or them.
Last edited on Feb 15th, 2007 02:25 am by Jim Flynt
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Posted: Feb 15th, 2007 02:37 am |
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Jim I think I discussed that on the Armfield thread. I personally stopped by and told Becky, Dwayne and Caroline they had made a good decision after the vote last night. But please be aware besides Mom there were three other people out of possible 50 people at the meeting that stood up against the changes for Armfield.
But Summerfield is way past the point where 40 or 50 more houses will make much difference in our town. In ten years we have gone from 2500 to well over 7,000 and maybe over 8,000 residents at this point . The Northwest area is the place to live. We have good ordinances that could be better but there really doesn't seem to be much appetite to change them and every time we do change them the area becomes more elite and more expensive to live in making it harder and harder for our kids to be able to live here.
We can't stop development, we can only control it somewhat. I feel like the FFS is to help make our town a community,To improve inefficiencies as we see them and to increase our feeling of community. To include people so that we hopefully can work towards the common goal of improving our Town.
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Posted: Feb 15th, 2007 02:49 am |
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DOGGETTJA wrote: But please be aware besides Mom there were three other people out of possible 50 people at the meeting that stood up against the changes for Armfield.
Jane, since I was not at last night's meeting, out of curiosity, not including the developers and their entourage, how many of the 50 people at the meeting stood up FOR the changes for Armfield?
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Posted: Feb 15th, 2007 02:53 am |
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I think 3 spoke for it besides developers. One woman made an excellent talk in favor. I wondered what she did for a living because she was wonderfully articulate. Last edited on Feb 15th, 2007 02:54 am by DOGGETTJA
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Steve Adkins Member
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Posted: Feb 15th, 2007 02:57 am |
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Several of the FFS sent emails to Mayor Brown, asking that the subject of Council Manager form of government be discussed.
Mayor Brown brought it up last night during Business From the Mayor, which was about 11:45 pm, so it was a short discussion.
The council was open to the idea of discussing it in March. They are going to spend the next few weeks getting themselves educated on the subject.
One TC member stated "this was the first they had heard of this subject", so one of the Agenda items on our Feb 20 FFS meeting will be if FFS members should send follow up emails to the entire council asking them to support this form of government.
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Posted: Feb 15th, 2007 03:01 am |
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Mr & Mrs Gordon's store at Summerfield Rd across from the Town Hall has a beautiful display in the front window very positive toward Friends for Summerfield.......it's worth the drive by to go look at.
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Jim Flynt Member
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Posted: Feb 15th, 2007 03:06 am |
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Steve Adkins wrote: The council was open to the idea of discussing it in March. They are going to spend the next few weeks getting themselves educated on the subject.
Steve, I fully support the concept of a Manager/Council form of government.
My question is who and how will the larger community of Summerfield residents be educated to this proposed system and change so that they can come onboard with their support? Don't they deserve to learn more about this proposal beyond simply reading about after it is discussed at a council meeting?
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Posted: Feb 15th, 2007 03:10 am |
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DOGGETTJA wrote: I think 3 spoke for it besides developers please be aware besides Mom there were three other people out of possible 50 people at the meeting that stood up against the changes for Armfield.
So Jane, wasn't that a wash with 3 speaking FOR and 3 speaking AGAINST out of 50? (not including Mom of course)
That's a 50/50 equation where I come from......Split right down the middle.
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Posted: Feb 15th, 2007 03:25 am |
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Jim Flynt wrote: Steve Adkins wrote: The council was open to the idea of discussing it in March. They are going to spend the next few weeks getting themselves educated on the subject.
Steve, I fully support the concept of a Manager/Council form of government.
My question is who and how will the larger community of Summerfield residents be educated to this proposed system and change so that they can come onboard with their support? Don't they deserve to learn more about this proposal beyond simply reading about after it is discussed at a council meeting?
Jim, thanks for the great segue into the whole premise for FFS !!!!!
FFS made this an Agenda item at our last meeting, Jane gave an outstanding talk on it. So we educated ourselves first. Then we wrote mass emails to Mayor Brown to ask him to bring it before the council, which he did. And council has started the process of educating themselves.
AAAANNNNNDDDDD.......Sandra may kill me for letting the cat out of the bag, but she is writing an article in the NWO about this subject to educate the community at large.
AAAANNNNNNDDDD.......the FFS website is getting loaded up with info and key websites to go visit and get info, which will be publicized in the near future.
AAAANNNNNNNDDDDD.....FFS will discuss at our next meeting whether to blanket the TC with emails asking them to support this form of government.
So hopefully we've got our bases covered with taking the educational approach, and respectfully approaching our TC with requests.
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Posted: Feb 15th, 2007 03:37 am |
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Jim Flynt wrote: So Jane, wasn't that a wash with 3 speaking FOR and 3 speaking AGAINST out of 50? (not including Mom of course)
That's a 50/50 equation where I come from......Split right down the middle.
Jim.........I would call this subject anything but a wash. The positive did not negate the negative, even though it might have been 50/50. Alot of water went under the bridge in 4 years.
In my mind, it took the wisdom of Solomon to work thru this situation. It was a highly charged emotional subject. The Town Council had a hard job.
Jane said it best.........it's not the time to be negotiating when a subject is before the Town Council for vote.
And with this........I am going to ask that all future comments about Armfield be put in the Armfield topic
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Posted: Feb 15th, 2007 03:44 am |
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Steve Adkins wrote: Jim.........I would call this subject anything but a wash. The positive did not negate the negative, even though it might have been 50/50. Alot of water went under the bridge in 4 years.
In my mind, it took the wisdom of Solomon to work thru this situation. It was a highly charged emotional subject. The Town Council had a hard job.
Jane said it best.........it's not the time to be negotiating when a subject is before the Town Council for vote.
Steve, I'm sorry that I was not more clear.
I did not mean that the subject was a wash. I was suggesting that support for or against was a wash based on 3 people speaking for and 3 speaking against.
My comment about wash was in response to Jane's earlier post about only 3 people speaking against the rezoning, my follow-up question, and then her pointing out that only 3 people (not including the developers) spoke for the rezoning. I was simply making the point that it would seem that the audience of people and perhaps even the larger community might be split fairly evenly in either support for or against the rezoning, which I thus called a wash.
I do agree that it was a highly charged subject with passionate feelings on all sides and that a lot of water went under the bridge in 4 years. I am quite sure that many lessons were learned by parties on all sides of the issue.
And I most especially concur with you with regard to Jane's comment about "it's not the time to be negotiating when a subject is before the Town Council for vote". No truer words were ever spoken.
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Posted: Feb 15th, 2007 03:54 am |
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Note to all
The http://www.friendsforsummerfield.com website is improving day by day.
I just took a cruise thru it, and.............wow.......the minutes from last meeting are already posted, got a "contact us" section to it, and just so professional looking !!
Kudos to the website team of Jan McLean, Beth Kaplan, & Kim Jackson !!
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Posted: Feb 15th, 2007 11:32 am |
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The FFS came along just in time, in my opinion. We need some positive responses to all the Good Ol' Boys with their secret back room investigations an' their taunts of "I know something I won't tell."
I'm a little tired of all the insinuations. Let's get some facts going!
Good job FFS.
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Posted: Feb 18th, 2007 02:08 pm |
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http://www.friendsforsummerfield.com/
Reminder, Meeting Tuesday 20 Feb 7 - 9 pm at Steve & Deb Adkins House
Check out the improvement to the website above, the Agenda for next meeting, as well as "contact us", and a photo album section.
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