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Posted: Aug 8th, 2007 04:35 pm |
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bama80 wrote: Even Thoguh I hardly evar botherr.
Too funny bama! 
I don't think the issue is with minor edits though. I think it's more a matter of having a clue what people are responding to. For those truly interested in Land Conservation/Open Space, this has got to be a difficult thread to follow when every other post has disappeared.
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Posted: Aug 9th, 2007 03:34 am |
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Posted: Aug 9th, 2007 10:26 am |
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I knew about the unconditional offer of the hundred acres but the acreage while extemely important to the health of the river is totally underwater all the time. It is the proverbial swamp land and totally unusable to the developer. It is a hundred acres that he now does not have to pay taxes on.
I do absolutely agree the state drug their feet and for all intents and purposes talk out of both sides of their mouths about conservation issues. On the one hand it is extremely important but on the other hand we don't want to pay for it.
I find golf courses particularly problemmatic and this developer has been sanctioned and fined for erioson and water polution issues in building their two other huge developments in Chatham county. I do hope the county inspectors do their job.
While I have water and don't think there will be a particular issue for me in my lifetime I am not sure my garndchildren will not suffer the consequences of the decisions of governments and big business.
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Possumhund
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Posted: Aug 13th, 2007 04:49 pm |
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| The discouraging thing about all this development is that "once its done, its done". There is no going back. If we don't figure out some way to light a fire under people/government we can kiss our rural communities goodbye- all we'll have left are the memories. Will our grandchildren be better off because we made some dough selling our farmland?
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Posted: Aug 13th, 2007 07:39 pm |
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Possumhund wrote: The discouraging thing about all this development is that "once its done, its done". There is no going back. If we don't figure out some way to light a fire under people/government we can kiss our rural communities goodbye- all we'll have left are the memories. Will our grandchildren be better off because we made some dough selling our farmland? Possum,
You have said quite a mouthful of truth and to Illustrate lets all get on my little time tour bus grab a seat and hang on cause we will be back before Pappy's feeding Time.
Welcome ladies & gents Today our time trip takes us down I-85 south to a country setting just minutes from downtown Atlanta, a land of open fields, fresh springs and creeks, birds singing and a 13 year old boy running bare foot through the meadows with his trusty dog. The date August 1933. Hold on we are now arriving, the bus doors are now opening, Wait! this Is not Pea Ridge Georgia August 1933, No meadows no dogs playing with its boy, no fresh streams.Where are we? The driver tells me we are at the right location just still in 2007 in what is now Tucker Georgia at a concrete plant next I 285 8 lanes of Highway. Guess Possum is right we cant go back!
Hang in well get the controls fixed and journey back to NW Guilford County.
Hold on and lets see where we land Yes Pappy I know Its almost Feeding Time!
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Jim Flynt
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Posted: Aug 14th, 2007 03:53 am |
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Posted: Aug 14th, 2007 12:30 pm |
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Posted: Aug 14th, 2007 12:51 pm |
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Unfortunately at the end of the day if we don't have air to breath or water to drink the condition of our finances will not matter.
I feel that as a society we have the responsibility of protecting the future of the generations to come. It certainly does not seem to be working to let private business be responsible for the protection. Less than 50% of the people in this country practice organized religion so that leaves government. I pay my taxes and I expect my government to take some of that money and protect my grandchildrens environment.
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Possumhund
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Posted: Aug 14th, 2007 01:20 pm |
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| Amen to that, Jane. Our generation(s) has done much to mortgage our decendents future- think social security, national debt, etc. Is the loss of a habitable environment the next "gift" we leave?
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Posted: Aug 14th, 2007 02:03 pm |
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Posted: Aug 14th, 2007 02:24 pm |
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| Not as much as the Catholic Church I bet.
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Posted: Aug 14th, 2007 02:52 pm |
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What's the difference between gross and net land percentage? And while you're at it, what are the numbers?
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Posted: Aug 14th, 2007 03:04 pm |
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Posted: Aug 14th, 2007 04:01 pm |
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Duh! I thought you meant state/local government. Federal lands include millions and millions of acres that no private citizen would want (desert [not dessert], mountaintops, military bases, etc.) as well as national parks, forests, and other protected areas. It wasn't specified in the original post to this thread, but most replies have assumed we are talking about local conservation, which is natural since local is the arena we are likely to have any influence over and has the most impact on our quality of living.
Question: if a large enough percentage of our rural land is converted to housing developments so that it is no longer rural but is still not a city, will new potential owners still pay the premium price developers/landowners are getting now? In other words, are property values going to continue to increase when the desirability (rural quality) of lots decreases? I think not; whereas cummunities that adopt open space ordinances and restrictive development codes have been shown to increase the property values in those communites compared to historical values.
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Posted: Aug 16th, 2007 12:10 am |
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Possum, Cuz and I was doing away with some open space over this way this weekend. We went tree shopping and got a little carried away and well, there is gonna be slightly more Christmas trees over here for both of us to light up soon. Four truckloads worth......Big 'uns too.
Last I saw of Cuz he was still a diggin' and still a sweatin'.....
Bye Bye open space. Welcome Santa Claus.
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