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Jim Flynt
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Posted: Jul 28th, 2007 09:34 pm |
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Posted: Jul 29th, 2007 12:31 am |
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| I can agree with you comletely there' Jim. Plus there's the "soft" cost to the public at large, quality of life.
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Posted: Jul 29th, 2007 04:14 am |
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The Comm. of Ag. for NC is trying to go the conservation easement route and he did get some money included in the state budget. Most of that money will end up down east due to Basnight and his friends that control state govt.
Farmers could stay on their land but the tax rates even for ag uses have gone up tremendously, add to that rising production costs, labor costs ,equipment and the fact that what they get for their crops has not matched their expenditures makes growing houses look pretty inviting. (Wheat sells for about .30 cents a bushel more today than it did n 1950)
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Posted: Jul 29th, 2007 05:46 pm |
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Posted: Aug 1st, 2007 06:52 pm |
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ff12 wrote:
Farmers could stay on their land but the tax rates even for ag uses have gone up tremendously, add to that rising production costs, labor costs ,equipment and the fact that what they get for their crops has not matched their expenditures makes growing houses look pretty inviting. (Wheat sells for about .30 cents a bushel more today than it did n 1950)
What you say is certainly true. But farmers, while they must make a profit to survive, farm because they love their profession, they love the land and nature, and they prize the lifestyle farming affords their families. I don't think what we see around here is "in production" farmland being sold for development. Mostly what we see is children inheriting former farmland and either because they cannot afford the taxes or they do not live in the area and cannot take care of the property they convert the land to cash. I suspect for the most part these children are well off and the proceeds of the sale, while affording them some discretionary spending money, are not absolutely needed. If it were, the parents would have sold that land sooner to care for their grown children and grandchildren.
The Piedmont Land Conservancy and other land preservation groups try to identify farmland owners who want to see their property remain in a natural condition. Then between the money paid for the conservation easement, any productive use the landowner still gets from the land, and lowered property tax rates the landowner continues to profit from their land while preserving it in perpetuity.
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Posted: Aug 2nd, 2007 10:30 am |
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| Possumhund- As I remember though donating land may not be that simiple. That is what happened over on Lake Brandt road where the huge houses are. Ms Jones donated her land for a bird sanctuary but she left no money with it so it was sold for houses and the land was bought in a cheaper area with part of the money and the rest of the money is kept in a trust fund to pay for anything that might be done to the land. So some other area of the state benefited from her donation which is ok but wouldn't it have been nice to have had a hundred acre bird sanctuary in this area?
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Posted: Aug 2nd, 2007 12:07 pm |
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You are absolutely correct, Jane. Conservation easements just prohibit future development as long as the normal expenses of maintaining the property are kept paid up. If they are not the courts can revoke the easement and take the land to sell and pay off debt.
Is there a good alternative to conservation easements besides a direct property donation to a trust or local/state government?
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Posted: Aug 3rd, 2007 12:35 am |
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Posted: Aug 3rd, 2007 02:11 am |
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| No Jim she gave her property to the UNC, I believe it was, as a bird sanctuary but she had no trust fund so the university sold the land and purchased land else where .
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Posted: Aug 3rd, 2007 02:20 am |
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Posted: Aug 6th, 2007 01:47 am |
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Posted: Aug 8th, 2007 12:23 pm |
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| I understand that users are allowed to go back to their posts and make edits, but what I don't understand is why someone would take the time to make numerous posts to a topic, and then go back several days later and remove the entire text of every single post they have made. This is not the first time/topic where this has occurred. Can someone, perhaps even the original author, enlighten me as to how the removal of earlier posts is advantageous to the discussion of this or any other topic?
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Posted: Aug 8th, 2007 02:12 pm |
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PaulS wrote: I understand that users are allowed to go back to their posts and make edits, but what I don't understand is why someone would take the time to make numerous posts to a topic, and then go back several days later and remove the entire text of every single post they have made. This is not the first time/topic where this has occurred. Can someone, perhaps even the original author, enlighten me as to how the removal of earlier posts is advantageous to the discussion of this or any other topic?
Good point!
PaulS been wondering that my dawg self! How can some body be deemed creditable when after they go back and edit the original post to have a different meaning after they get a response? or as you point out delete their entire history of posts. That would lead this dawg to think that they been out in the heat without a hat!
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Posted: Aug 8th, 2007 04:30 pm |
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I am sure we all say/type things in the heat of the moment that in retrospect.. we would not want them preserved for all eternity. One can make their own assumptions as to the reason for the edit (guilt, secrecy, etc).
I for one am glad that I have to right/privilege to edit my posts. Even Thoguh I hardly evar botherr.
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Posted: Aug 8th, 2007 04:33 pm |
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You make a very good point Paul S. I can see where complete edits would make it extremely difficult for people who aren't keeping up on a daily basis to know what folks on here are talking about.
Sort of like listening in on one end of a phone conversation.......
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