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Posted: Nov 5th, 2005 12:24 am |
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re: CC Riders
Be wary, Summerfield, of the horse they came in on, lest it spew forth more lies and half truths onto unsuspecting citizens.
Beware the promised gifts of NO TAXES, BALL FIELDS pulled out of the sky, plentiful GROUNDWATER supplies, unlimited use of Greensboro's RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, and so on.
Look this gift horse in the mouth and slam it shut! Quick!
Before the town is plunged into chaos by this rank of naysayers.
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Cracker Jax
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Posted: Nov 5th, 2005 12:54 am |
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Good citizens of Summerfield, the "concerned citizens" are trying to fill your heads with lies and innuendo.
Hopefully, you are carefully reading these messages in the town forum and reading the NW Observer to keep abreast of what is really going on in your town.
Hopefully you realize that the 3 "concerned citizens" who are running for council seem to be too afraid to make an appearance in this forum to defend their statements... afraid perhaps that they will be asked to provide actual proof for their many false accusations.
Jane Doggett, Mike Stewart and Don Wendelken have kindly made themselves available on this forum to answer your questions and Mark Brown can be contacted through his website http://www.markbrownformayor.org No one has heard publicly from the 3 "concerned citizens" on the ballot, other than the printed propaganda sent to our mailboxes on a daily basis.
There are so many issues that Strickland, Crawford and Peterson have included in their mailings that are either taken out of context, exaggerated or just plain lies. The truth needs to be told but in the interest of time, trust me when I say that they are taking advantage of you and the fact that you are not coming to the council meetings and seeing for yourself what is really going on in your town.
Please VOTE on Tuesday and consider carefully who you are voting for.
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Posted: Nov 5th, 2005 12:57 am |
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Ditto Starcatchr, let's all beware!
I have read everything that has been entered regarding the Concerned Citizens and was wondering why no representative of the CC has entered this forum?
I also got their letter in the mail and would like to say, it is shameful they feel so compelled to put others down and publish half truths in order to raise themselves up. I would find more respect in a group if they were doing things in a positive and helpful way rather than criticise others for their efforts.
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FatPappy
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Posted: Nov 5th, 2005 11:58 am |
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| Mr Wendelken--I want to apologize for the tone of my posts. I get a little carried away sometimes. You seem like a decent person (confused, but decent) and at least you have enough courage to get out here and put up with jerks like me. Anyway, I think this forum is a great way to share ideas and see what others are thinking. I hope more people use it as a way to get involved. Yes, I do still support the current council. That ought to give us something to talk about in the future.
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Steve Adkins
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Posted: Nov 5th, 2005 12:33 pm |
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| See my Oct 31 & Nov 1 postings one page 1, I spoke with Dwayne Crawford at length on 10/31, invited him to join, no commitment. Emailed Becky Strickland, got back a "thanks, I might join after I finish all my emails" answer.
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Posted: Nov 5th, 2005 12:39 pm |
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What are we going to do with all the junk mail we've been getting from the Concerned Three Stooges? I thought about saving the ones with their pictures on them to use as emergency toilet paper. Any other ideas?
I hope more people are beginning to see the Concerned Stooges for what they are. I hope more people are questioning the accuracy of what they say. Our ignorance is their best weapon and it can be a weapon of mass destruction if we're not careful! I agree with Patti Stokes in the latest Observer when she says concerning them, "Frankly, enough is enough." Amen to that! I hope more people are as fed up with them as we some of us are.
It's Summerfield, not Stricklandfield!
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Posted: Nov 5th, 2005 12:47 pm |
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| Unfortunately, the way they send this propaganda might scare people into thinking they need to pay attention to it. Look at the way they mark the envelopes... How are they funding this? Are they registered as some kind of official organization? Do they have a bulk mailing permit?
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Posted: Nov 5th, 2005 01:03 pm |
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It is very healthy to have checks and balances in a town. This brings out all sides of an issue and promotes the balance. But when this process becomes ugly, disrespectful and slanted towards one cause, all is lost! Why would anyone this disruptive run for office?
Mr. W - Thank you for participating in this forum. It has been a pleasure to read what your views are on our town's issues.
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DOGGETTJA
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Posted: Nov 5th, 2005 01:57 pm |
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| Voting your convictions is how we voice our concerns. I am concerned that the negative people will stir up the less informed and scare them into voting while others who aren't unhappy with the way things are going will stay home. Voting is what will decide this issue. I look forward to being your reporesentative for the next 4 years but it won't happen if we don't vote.
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Starcatchr
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Posted: Nov 5th, 2005 09:14 pm |
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| Don W. I, too, want to thank you for running hard in this election. While your views have, perhaps, not shown enough experience in the matters of government, you have at the very least let us know where you stand on issues. Your sincerity is a welcome change and a clean fight goes a long way toward success.
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Posted: Nov 5th, 2005 10:46 pm |
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Starcatchr
I appreciate your kind words - However, My experience as a business owner has given me valuable experience onhow to work in government. Although the procedures may differ on how to get things done. I know what happens when things are ran in a government way and when things are ran in a business like way. The results are always better when a government is run like a business. If any business is ran like the government it would be in a lot of turmoil. Thanks again.
Don Wendelken electw4summerfiled@hotmail.com
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Posted: Nov 6th, 2005 12:35 am |
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Great Question Macca
The CC group does have a permit. PRSRT STD U.S.Postage Paid Permit #34. This permit appears to be paid for by the "CC, a Public Interest Corp" It states on a recent news letter that the CC of Summerfield Political Action Committee is a separate PAC.
The trio sent a mailing using the same permit number, #34 The Strickland flyer said "Paid for by Committee of Becky Strickland." Peterson’s said "Paid for by the Committee to elect Bill Peterson. Crawford did n’t let us know who paid for his, perhaps "one of the fastest growing privately held businesses in Guilford County", maybe he made the copies at work. Is this legal? It is confusing.
My question is, are they letting us know who paid for the copies, when they say paid for by their committee? With the exception of Crawford, who is not disclosing that info? It looks like the CC PAC is paying for the mailings. If anyone knows more this would be interesting info. Please don’t tell us that the three are stealing money from an organization. That couldn’t be true after they have accused the current Council of doing so.
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Posted: Nov 6th, 2005 11:33 am |
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| Ho Hum, yet another CC mailer. Is anyone else curious as to how these bits of fanaticism are being funded? While the mailers are obviously not professionally produced, the postage does get expensive.
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Posted: Nov 6th, 2005 11:37 am |
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| Sorry Lucy. I posted my letter before reading yours. Thanks for asking the questions that need answers
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Posted: Nov 6th, 2005 11:53 am |
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I have not joined your conversation until now because I just found out about this service this morning.
I can see how you might make the assumption that I am a member of the concerned citizens group, but I am not. I did not know they were going to mail my brochure with theirs until it was done. The fellow who supplied the brochures did not know it either.
It is not a secret that I do not support the CC groups methods. If you ever attended council meetings when I was mayor you'd know that as a fact. But I do agree with what they are trying to do in that they are asking the council to conform to the open meeting law, be fiscally responsible, and to do their due diligence. They are responsible for the reduction in taxes the council approved this year.
I personally like the folk on the council. I know each of them and have worked with them. I think they have Summerfield's best interest in their hearts and minds. They are welcome in my home. Would I hire most of them to run a multi million dollar business I owned? Probably not because it is not their background and they do not have the qualifications I would look for in a board of directors.
Unfortunately, as good of folks as they are, because of their lack of business experience they have made some pretty bad mistakes and it has cost you tax money to cover them. Every family of four has paid some $115 to find out a building would not go on a lot. The expense would have not occurred if they had just done their due diligence. Another example is the survey that was funded but the results ignored. The water program was once estimated at a fully funded cost in excess of $20,000,000 or roughly $2,857 for each of us ($11,428 for a four person family) plus hookup fees and the cost of water. We are about to build a multimillion dollar park around an amphitheater in a town that has no performing arts. I have to wonder how many omission mistakes we can afford.
I think it a reasonable assumption that folks who support the CC candidates are also looking for a non-incumbent candidate for mayor. You will see some of our signs and brochures in the same places. I have seen my sign beside an incumbent's. Please be careful. Assumptions can be dangerous (and wrong)
Bill
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