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Posted: Oct 20th, 2005 01:52 am |
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Over the last year a small group of very vocal citizens has expressed their views on several issues including taxes, the sheriff's substation, growth, ethics and fiscal responsibility. Do you know where they stand on these issues and if so, do you support their views - why or why not?
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Posted: Oct 22nd, 2005 02:07 am |
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I really do not know what they stand for, other than criticizing the Mayor & Town Council at every turn, mean spirited attacks toward the NWO & toward anybody who doesn't support their radical approach, and "if it means spending a dime, just say no", regardless of how it will help Summerfield. Their own poor ethics have overshadowed anything the incumbent council have done. I don't support their views and am disgusted with their behavior.
During the past year, the CC's have sent petitions to my home which I later found to be filled with half truths. They do not have the backbone to admit when they are wrong, or may have been misinformed. The CC's spearheaded the "we should be the ones to elect the Mayor" campaign, then withdrew support at the last minute when the town appointed lawyer's legal wording didn't meet with one person's liking. I actually thought the idea was a good one, but lost all respect with the waffling.
The last council meeting, the Mayor invited them to speak on behalf of their candidacy. None had any vision for Summerfield. One is worried about where money will be spent (aren't we all, especially incumbent council). Another took the cake......didn't come forward, said "everybody knows where she stands" (I'm not into mind reading)
(I was under the mistaken impression Wendelkyn was part of the CC's, but was corrected by below readers, so I'll admit my mistake and pull the comment)
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Posted: Oct 22nd, 2005 02:35 am |
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Wendelken is not part of the concerned citizens group! He stands for keeping taxes low- Limited Gov - responsible spending and keeping Summerfied a bed and breakfast family community. He does not want Summerfield to start looking like Greensboro. The current council is taking us in that direction.
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Posted: Oct 22nd, 2005 02:39 am |
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Do you think the Town of Summerfield should start collecting your garbage? Are you ready for annual tax increases when this and more services are added by the current town council? Last edited on Oct 22nd, 2005 01:10 pm by donw
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Posted: Oct 22nd, 2005 02:38 pm |
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I agree with everything you've said about Crawford and Strickland. I think Strickland's comment at the council meeting was ridiculous, but I think everybody does know where she stands -- against everything. Crawford's starting that petition and then withdrawing support at the last minute just shows the kind of leader he will be. This group is also masterful at twisting people's words and meanings, and while they expect everybody else (especially the council) to admit mistakes and wallow in them forever, they do not hold themselves to the same standards. They also absolutely refuse to listen to reason about anything.
I disagree with you about Wendelken. He's not part of the Concerned Citizens. I think he does share some of their views on low taxes and limited government, but he seems to be able to ask hard but sensible questions (even though I supported the council on the substation building, they really didn't do their homework on that one). He seems like he wouldn't be afraid to go out on a limb to stand up for what he believes in.
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Posted: Oct 24th, 2005 02:55 pm |
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Hey, Steve, ever think about running for council in the future? You would have my vote. You seem to be well informed and understand the vision for Summerfield.
It is nice to know that there are people in our town that are not putting signs in their yards just because someone comes by and asks.
You seem to be one of the few regulars that attend the council meetings. Thanks for being there and making a difference. We need more people like us.
I agree that the comment "Everybody knows where I stand" made by Becky SUE was arrogant and disrespectful to all.
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Posted: Oct 24th, 2005 05:10 pm |
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I for one wanted the town of Summerfield to contract for Garbage pickup. At least my taxes to the city can be deducted from my taxes; my payment to the garbage people is not. I thought this would be particularly beneficial to our citizens with lower incomes.
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Posted: Oct 24th, 2005 08:41 pm |
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As soon as the town takes over your trash the annual budget will increase every year and you may get the write off - but in reality there will be other services they will think of and you won't write them off. Once the council thinks that you need garbage service they will add more services. That is just the nature of government. The worst thing you can do is to let the town council decide what services you want. That is why I am running for town council -- these issues have to be thought out far in advance! We need to make our own decisions as citizens and be responsible for our own trash. Want an example--- Look at Greensboro, their tax rates are extremely high! I won't let that happen if elected.
Don Wendelken
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Posted: Oct 24th, 2005 10:44 pm |
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I think the Town Council has been deliberate and thoughtful in its efforts to provide services from our Town. I do not understand how if the Town decided to provide garbage service, which has several advantages for the Town and it citizens, it would automactically mean that services would suddenly start raining down and automatically mean increases in taxes. Taxes in fact dropped from 10.5 to 4.5 cents from last year to this year.
Some of the advantages of garbage service is less than 75% of the people in Summerfield now subscribe for garbage service, where is the rest of it going? In the gulleys behind peoples houses, along the side of the roads, and on the park property are just a few of the places that I know trash is being dumped. With Town wide service that should stop some of the illegal dumping that is now so prevelant in the Town.
The other issue is that with garbage provided Town wide then the Town could negotiate cheaper prices and more inclusive services for the citizens.
These are just a couple of the positive reasons for garbage service. But what ever the Council proposes will be put before th Town in open hearings advertized well before the meetingswhen discussions for the new budget starts sometime after the first of the year.
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Posted: Oct 25th, 2005 01:18 am |
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1. Taxes - Jane is correct in saying that taxes have decresed to 4.5. However they were increased to 10.5 which evidently was too much. I know we had to have some source of revenue for the town to run because the county commissioners changed the formula for Summerfield to recieve any revenue. I agree that we needed to have some property tax but only because of the commissioners. It should not have been 10.5. It was also decreased because the substation was not passed. If it was built our taxes would have gone up every year to maintain it.
2. Trash- On this issue Jane assumes that since less than 75% of the citizens have garbage pick up the other 25% are dumping illegaly or burning it. Lets not assume anything- What about those who are self-employed- Summerfield has quite a few of them and many bring their trash to their businesses for disposal. As far as trash on the sides of the road- there will always be litter bugs. I have never seen household garbage dumped on the side of the road. If there has been such a problem with illegal dumping why hasn't this issue been pursued with more vigor? Percentages are just that percentages. Bottom line-- There will always be illegal dumping and the town needs to stay out of my trash. Lets base issues on facts not percentages.
3. More services- Jane stated that by having garbage service through the town doesn't mean that more services will rain down on us. Anyone with a little government expereince would tell you that when you start mandating new services taxes sky rocket. Want some examples? Greensboro, Guilford County and the State of NC. Have you seen them decrease taxes lately? NO! They continually add more services because they think we need them. What happens then? Yes, your right-- taxes go up-up-up.
Lets keep Summerfield a community of lower taxes and let the taxpayers know all the information before anyone votes to pass what is being assumed by the town council.
It is time to elect someone who will look at the big picture and ask the hard questions!
Have any questions e-mail me at electw4summerfield@hotmail.com
Elect Don Wendelken
Last edited on Oct 25th, 2005 02:03 am by donw
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Posted: Oct 25th, 2005 02:55 am |
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Is there a general dissatisfaction with the garbage collection among the citizens of Summerfield? Is the price too high? Is the service poor? Are there significant areas where service is unavailable? If so I am unaware of it. However well intentioned, it seems that the council is looking for a service to provide.
I think the town government should be very careful about taking on responsibility for services that are being adequately provided by the private sector. Time and again experience proves that the private sector is more efficient than government. Government bureacracies are easy to start, self-perpetuating, ineffiecient, and almost impossible to kill.
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Posted: Oct 28th, 2005 10:40 pm |
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In this concerned citizens category or any category I wonder why three specific candidates are not addressing any issues in this forum. Where have these candidates been? Why aren't they addressing any issues on line? I am just wondering, because it would be helpful to hear from them.
Don Wendelken
If you have any questions for me e-mail me at electw4summerfield@hotmail.com.
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Posted: Oct 29th, 2005 12:34 pm |
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Good question! It's been great seeing where some of the candidates stand on issues and having them answer questions on this forum. I don't think we REALLY know where they stand on anything (despite Becky Strickland's statement at the town council meeting) except they keep quoting that tired old saying "No taxes, no services" and they are against anything the current council tries to do.
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Posted: Oct 30th, 2005 05:44 pm |
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I emailed Mark Brown & asked him to join the NWO forum, so we could chat with him. Hopefully we will hear from him soon.
Since this is an open forum, Internet & all, does anybody have Dwayne Crawford's, or Becky Strickland's email addresses? If someone can furnish, I'll contact them and ask them to join also. Just because I don't like what I've heard and been reading, doesn't mean I don't want to understand their viewpoints, especially if there's a chance they might be future council-persons.
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Posted: Oct 30th, 2005 06:46 pm |
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e-mails jcrawford@triad.rr.com and stricklandbecky@hotmail.com
elect Don Wendelken
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