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Cracker Jax
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 Posted: Nov 10th, 2006 01:42 am

Share your thoughts on the Concerned Citizens of Summerfield.



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 Posted: Nov 10th, 2006 01:00 pm
Is this space gonna be big enough? Hee hee!



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 Posted: Nov 10th, 2006 02:01 pm

You're so funny Pappy!


I was gonna post about Sandra's FOIA article but I was too busy last night. Good Job Sandra!!! The people of Summerfield need to know why the Staff members are leaving and that the CC's, while touting fiscal responsibility, are actually wasting our money and leaving us NOTHING to show for it except for the stack of papers carried around by their spokespeople.


I have a lot more to say on this subject, but I think I'll post most of that elsewhere.  ;)


I think Councilman Williams was correct in stating that the CC's are wasting valuable time with countless requests and Councilwoman Barnes hit the nail on the head when she said that they had succeeded in aggravating people.


I found it interesting that Councilman Crawford SAYS that he has "resigned" from the CC steering committee due to a "difference of opinion". Wonder which one of them he had a difference of opinion with???  Wonder if he really did have a difference of opinion or if he's just trying to give us the ILLUSION of distancing himself from the others.


Actions speak louder than words.



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 Posted: Nov 10th, 2006 04:20 pm
Do you think the CC folks that voted these two people into office are so blind to the whole process that they cannot see what a luaghing stock they have made of the Summerfield Twon Council meetings?  Heck, I keep up on it just to see what wild and wacky things are coming next.  Were things really THAT bad before CC showed up?

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 Posted: Nov 11th, 2006 03:01 am
Pappy lately read a typical CC style nonsense mailin' bearin' that infamous Permit #34. Mebbe you saw one too.

Typical bash the park, bash the Barnes family, you know. Well, I natur'ly thought it was from the CC, but come to find out it wasn't! Naw! It was all the way from the Treasurer of the National Taxpayers United of Illinois!

"Pappy," I says, I says, "what in the world does the National Taxpayers United of Illinois have to do with the good people o' Summerfield or the CC?" I says.

Well, up yonder the National Taxpayers United of Illinois says such thangs as, "Libraries are outmoded - with the Internet you don't need them anymore."

And, "Your local politicians want to spend millions of your dollars to build a palace for themselves! They feel the current city hall is beneath them!"

Oh, I see...

So, does Summerfield have its very own out-of-state consultant now?

An' who's steerin' the CC steerin' committee these days? An' how many airbags is it equipped with?

Save ol' Pappy a place over yonder, Crackah!



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 Posted: Nov 11th, 2006 03:45 am
FatPappy wrote: An' who's steerin' the CC steerin' committee these days? An' how many airbags is it equipped with?

tee hee!  Love that!  Airbags!


I got that permit #34 propaganda mailin' too Pappy.  I gotta say that it looked a sight prettier than that bogus F- report card that circulated about Mark Brown. 


The content of the mailin' would have been laughable if I wasn't afraid some uninformed voter transplanted from Illinois or somewhere might get hold of it and not realizin' it was a fairy tale, cast their vote accordingly.


My favorite part of the fairy tale was when the NTUI Treasurer writes that council voted to allow Paul Milam to WRITE ORDINANCES for SF to rezone HUNDREDS of acres for HIGH DENSITY housing.


NOT TRUE and NOT what Milam asked the council for.


And then the author whines about not being able to blurt out comments during Mr. Milam's speech to council. Puhleeeeese!


 


 



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 Posted: Nov 11th, 2006 03:53 am
mstone wrote: Do you think the CC folks that voted these two people into office are so blind to the whole process that they cannot see what a luaghing stock they have made of the Summerfield Twon Council meetings?  Heck, I keep up on it just to see what wild and wacky things are coming next.  Were things really THAT bad before CC showed up?

I think things were great before the CC's climbed out from under their rocks mstone.


I'm sure some mistakes were made, but we were a new town and folks were learning how to go about running that town.


We were happy.  We were a community.  We were progressive, and making plans for the future instead of focusing on the past.  Neighboring towns even looked at Summerfield to set an example for them. We were proud of our accomplishments.


Not anymore.  It's really embarrassing.



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 Posted: Nov 11th, 2006 09:49 am
FatPappy wrote:
Naw! It was all the way from the Treasurer of the National Taxpayers United of Illinois!

"Pappy," I says, I says, "what in the world does the National Taxpayers United of Illinois have to do with the good people o' Summerfield or the CC?" I says.


So, does Summerfield have its very own out-of-state consultant now?


http://www.ntui.org



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 Posted: Nov 11th, 2006 11:27 am
Pappy despises any organization or individual that uses misdirection, lies, an' scapegoats as the bricks to build their little walls with their gawdy neon signs on top blasphemously proclaiming "TRUTH".

They ain't gonna last. They're already crumblin'.



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 Posted: Nov 11th, 2006 01:29 pm
What is this Illinoise Taxpayer crap? I am insulted that this would be used locally to try to sway people. I looked at there website. Look at this:


Donate Easily and Safely Online to NTUI!



For a small annual household membership fee of $50 or corporate membership of $1,000, you will recieve our Tax Survey of the Illinois General Assembly, as well as a subscription to our newsletter, TaxNews, containing news of upcoming tax battles, elections, and action you can take to reduce out-of-control taxation and spending in your area. Donating to NTUI online using your Visa, Mastercard, AMEX or Discover is simple, fast and secure.



Ha! I wouldn't waste my time much less my money. And doesnt this sound familiar. Here's something else:



CONTACT NTUI



Jim Tobin
President -
ntui@ntui.org



Jeffrey Babbitt
Vice President -
babbitt@ntui.org



Christina Tobin
Staff / Donations -
christina@ntui.org



Jeff Trigg
Executive Director -
trigg@ntui.org



Where is Ms. Dunham's name? Why is she not listed as a contact?



Just more smoke and mirrors.... I just hope some uninformed person didn't take this stuff at face value. BJ won with no problem. Obviously this Illinoise Taxpayer group didn't sway the voters around here. Thank goodness people around here are smarter than that -- now anyways. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me!!!!!!" When are the citizens of Summerfeild going to stand up and say enough to these people???? And I don't just mean on this forum. I mean a real uprising.......

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 Posted: Nov 11th, 2006 02:09 pm
Sound wisdom, Zippity. I agree we need more off the forum protest, but I think we're makin' a dent with the forum too.

I like what Mayor Brown said in the paper, "I do not expect the staff of the Town of Summerfield to stoop to allowing themselves to be harassed for political purposes, nor will I stand to be harassed in such a manner." WOO HOO!

Great article, Sandra!



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 Posted: Nov 11th, 2006 02:22 pm
Thanks for the compliment, Pappy, but I do want to point out that my intent wasn't to bash the Concerned Citizens. I do agree that citizens have a right to information, but I also think requests have to be reasonable. I did offer the CCs the opportunity to say why they were requesting this information and what they intended to do with it. Unfortunately they wouldn't answer my questions.

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 Posted: Nov 11th, 2006 02:50 pm
I didn't mean to imply you were bashin' the CCs, Sandra. We already got a crew on that. Hee hee!

I read the unedited full "answer" you were given. It was a joke! The answer I got from that was "Go away, peasant." It's hard to say anythang good about 'em when they act like we have no right to expect them to be part o' the community they supposedly represent.



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 Posted: Nov 13th, 2006 04:54 pm
I would like to know why Mom and the concerned citizens' agenda is so much more important and better than most of the other citizens of Summerfield's agendas.  I pay taxes so I get a say also, but I sure wouldn't want BS to elicit a response from me or catch me in a moment of weakness so she can better meet her agenda.  Now isn't that sad.  By intimidation BS is affecting my "freedom of speech", but don't get in the way of the "freedom of information act".

 

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 Posted: Nov 14th, 2006 12:32 am
Neither they nor their "agenda" are superior in any way, shape, or form to you or anybody else, HB. They are a sad an' disgustin' bunch, in my always humble opinion. They scurry about like rats in the dark frantically fumblin' with their pitiful little plans fer mischief. They block, they stall, they bully.

But do they offer anything positive for Summefield?

Absolutely nuthin'.



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