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Posted: Jul 22nd, 2006 08:10 pm |
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| it has to be better than 20+ mobiles to band-aid the problem.......
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Posted: Jul 23rd, 2006 12:25 pm |
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| Hmmmmmm. Sorry, but I feel the need to point out that this is titled "New Drop-Off," but only the initial posting is about that.... There is ANOTHER one for "Miscellaneous," which the rest would likely fit under...♥♥♥
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Posted: Jul 23rd, 2006 01:11 pm |
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Steve Adkins wrote: It sticks in my mind that the capacity of NWHS without the mobile classrooms is geared to 1,600 (approx). Therefore anything above 1,600 would require some external capacity like mobile units.
If someone else can clarify, would be appreciated. Is 1,600 the right number, and does it reflect brick & mortar building without mobiles?
Sorry to be so slow in responding, Steve. I actually need to confirm the permanent capacity of Northwest High School, since the expansion a few years ago did add more cafeteria, classroom, media center and gym space. Prior to that, the school had 42 mobile units (might have been 41 or 43, but I'm within one), setting a record for the school with the most mobile units in the county. I'm thinking you're right that the expansion brought the school up to a permanent capacity of approx. 1,600, but again, will need to confirm this.
You are correct about "capacity" meaning brick and mortar. The permanent capacity of a school refers not only to the amount of classroom capacity, but cafeteria capacity, media center capacity, auditorium capacity and gym capacity. That's why, even when mobile units were added each year in response to Northwest High's growth, many of the kids still had to eat lunch outside or in the hallways. The cafeteria didn't house them all, one gym was grossly insufficient for all the sports team to practice at "regular" times of the day, the auditorium was, and remains at a capacity of about 1,000, which of course means that there can never be a program in which more than two grades can attend - the rest have to watch on video, which just isn't the same. That brings me to another subject, which is school spirit ... but I'll post that in a separate topic since this one was set up for Drop-Off.
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Posted: Jul 23rd, 2006 01:40 pm |
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macca wrote: Hmmmmmm. Sorry, but I feel the need to point out that this is titled "New Drop-Off," but only the initial posting is about that.... There is ANOTHER one for "Miscellaneous," which the rest would likely fit under...♥♥♥
EditorPS wrote:
That brings me to another subject, which is school spirit ... but I'll post that in a separate topic since this one was set up for Drop-Off.
The "drop off" was driven by the overall issue of over-capacity at NWHS, which all of these comments tie together into, so I don't think we're terribly off topic. At least Monty hasn't brought his sign out yet.
Thanks Patti for clarification.
Anna's definition would probably (and rightfully be) "I get smushed in the hallways and my feet get stepped on walking between classes". Anybody can symphathize with that answer.
Which is like trying to run 4 lanes worth of cars on a 2 lane highway (220?).
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Posted: Aug 3rd, 2006 10:43 pm |
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Hey Steve,
Let me drop this in your ear....while we are talking about the drop-off, I believe that we need to focus also on school safety. The drop off will or may provide for a new drop off point, but when an additional 150 plus car are in with an already 711 or so in the same area and trying to pickup and leave at the same time, one can't help but ask, "what were they thinking". There are no new road designs, except the new lanes placed at the end of Northwest School Rd and Alcorn Rd. The light may help if it is up before school starts. The problem I see is that the traffic from the parking lot and middle school will still have a choice of direction to travel instead of being made to travel one way or the other. I guess we will just have to see how this will work. The administration staff may need some help directing traffic at the school. I dont believe that one officer can do it all.
Oh yea, speaking of officer and safety. Did you know that Mr. Kidd placed the officer or OP in the Vocats Building next to the field house, the furthest location possible from the main office and main student body. I thought the officers in the school supposed to be in a location that would provide for immediate response and or safety for staff and students. What do you think? I feel that this is a serious reflection on how the administration view safety at NW. I would definately want the officer nearest to my child and not in a building that is not even attached to the main one where he can not see nor hear if anything is going on. His travel to and from the building would be a concern also (ie; weather and other conditions) I am for the school doing well, but well for all involved. We cant have a safe school if those who are responsible for its safety are improperly displaced from the main stream.
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Posted: Aug 3rd, 2006 11:20 pm |
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it's my understanding that OP office is going to be used for classroom space-- I think it's a mistake to put him out of the main area.
OP has always helped with traffice, but the truth is that is not their job and if something else is going on they have to handle that first. I think their should be car duty assigned to teachers with a large bright jacket so they don't get run over either.
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DToney
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Posted: Aug 3rd, 2006 11:44 pm |
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| great points gotobeme! OP really needs to be closer to the building... if not inside! Dang... a corner in the Media Center or somewhere would be better than that type of isolation!
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Posted: Aug 8th, 2006 09:46 pm |
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Steve Adkins wrote: Anna's definition would probably (and rightfully be) "I get smushed in the hallways and my feet get stepped on walking between classes". Anybody can symphathize with that answer. Which is like trying to run 4 lanes worth of cars on a 2 lane highway (220?).
Steve, you are exactly right. 
I was at the school yesterday and drove through the student parking lot to check out the construction. It still looks like they're pushing a bunch of red clay around, but I could definitely see the new practice field and where the drop-off loop would be. I just hope they can finish it in time for school starting (I guess they still have two and a half weeks), else parking will be a gross, muddy mess.
Speaking of parking, have any of your students received their parking passes this year? Does anyone know how they're assigning parking? (I haven't gotten mine yet.)
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Posted: Aug 11th, 2006 01:09 am |
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I am all for that only if resources, teachers and money are equally spread around. It is not about how I feel about my child but for every child to be treated equally and given a decent chance to grow socially and economically.
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Posted: Aug 11th, 2006 01:13 am |
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Yea, Well said....I think the problem here is that we sometimes get carried away with so many issues, that it become hard to focus......We just have to wait and see about the drop-off.
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Posted: Aug 11th, 2006 01:24 am |
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This is what I heard about parking.....They have chosen random days to register Seniors only for now. After all seniors have registered, Juniors with zero period will be allowed to register. I guess that means that if school starts, Juniors will have to wait until every senior is registered. They dont want the same problems they had last year when some seniors did not get a chance to register. Next, Juniors with zero period, then the remaining juniors will be placed in a lottery drawing for the remaining spots.
I do know that every junior will not be able to get a space. Again, numbers. The school only has 700 or so spaces. They have 550 plus seniors and 530 plus juniors and at least 300 plus sophomore drivers. So the problem is space again this year. There is no easy way to solve this problem from what I see. There will always be a need from someone's point of view for their child to drive. I heard that OP will not be involved with parking this year and that the entire parking registration and control has been given to Mr. Sockwell, one of the assistant principals.
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Posted: Aug 11th, 2006 04:54 am |
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So a sophomore with a zero period can't get a pass???
Is that correct gotobeme??
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Posted: Aug 11th, 2006 10:44 pm |
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That's what I am hearing....Only Seniors and Juniors will be allowed to park on campus this year.
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Posted: Aug 25th, 2006 04:58 pm |
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Okay, I checked out the new student drop-off this morning. Even though it was the first day of school, it seemed to be working pretty well at about 8:10. I don't know about how things went later. Once you got off NW School Road and onto the drop-off road, it was a breeze. Just making your way through the traffic on NW School Road was a headache, as always. But since the road is so much longer than the area in the front of the school, it did keep that area from getting congested.
The area around the middle school is still a mess and something really needs to be done over there.
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Posted: Aug 25th, 2006 05:01 pm |
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| Yes, the middle school needs work and we were told that after the Northern Middle school opened and our numbers dropped (ha ha) that we would look at it again. They then gave the money to Dudley
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