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Posted: Jul 30th, 2007 03:29 pm |
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FatPappy wrote: Um, yeah...
O' course my main criterion is how well a candidate can speak with a mouthful o' food. That's how I weed out the amateurs.
Fatpappy,
You Know politico's can talk out both sides of the mouth.!
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Posted: Jul 30th, 2007 03:58 pm |
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JamesAttaway wrote:
Fatpappy,
You Know politico's can talk out both sides of the mouth.!
Hee hee. Mebbe we should move the eatin' first on the agenda an' serve up somethin' that'll stick to the roofs o' their mouths so they cain't talk at all. We'll ask questions an' they can either nod yes, no, or make a run fer it.
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Posted: Jul 30th, 2007 04:01 pm |
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I have attended two since Mr. Wrays appointment - one was the night of his appointment. And all Zoning board meetings except June Last edited on Jul 30th, 2007 04:02 pm by lovettrp
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Posted: Aug 2nd, 2007 10:57 pm |
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Posted: Aug 2nd, 2007 10:57 pm |
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Hello all! I would like to take a moment and explain my personal political "philosophy". This may give you some insight into me or it may cause you to discount me immediately as a viable candidate. I am not running against anyone! I am a candidate ... who's job right now is to explain my views and answer questions so the citizens of the community can become informed. I am not going to be a person (at least I will try my hardest not to be!) who gets into the personal destruction game (and if I do please call me on it... and I will either admit I was wrong or explain myself!). Every candidate should stick to the facts and their personal opinions/views on the issues without comparing themselves to their opponents... the comparison should be left to the voters and the voters alone! I understand that some people have "axes to grind" or political/personal agendas. I do not believe I have an agenda or political axes to grind ... except the agenda to represent Summerfield as a council member and be true and honest in my words and deeds. Sounds very Boy Scout of me... well I am (Eagle Scout actually)! I was raised by parents that believed in these belief and values the same way I do.
As I see it there are two groups vying for power in summerfield... each claiming they know what the community wants. One group conducts polls that the other group shoots down the results for one reason or another. I believe there is "some" truth in each side of every argument. (I know... I know... I am walking a fine line and will have to take sides... you are probably right but the sides I take will be based upon the issue and the information, facts, opinions, community needs, and an objective mind! All I can promise is that I will be honest and (to quote my college motto) "I will try" to do what is best for the community.
This election is a watershed of political beliefs and battles... in the last election, the unknown commodity was voted in to office... now the community has had a chance to see them for whom they are (good or bad... your decision). This election will shape the direction of the community for a long period of time (believe me ... more than just four years). I hope people educate themselves and start asking the tough questions! If I do not know the answers I will tell you. Then I will (and I promise this ) learn and educate myself and then respond to the question/issue. Some may say that that is a sign of weakness. They may be correct but I believe a bigger sign of weakness making excuses, lying, doing nothing or going along with a preconceived belief without learning more about the other side.
This is our community... lets do great things together in our community! Lets not just do things to do things.
Thanks!
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Posted: Aug 3rd, 2007 12:16 am |
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Posted: Aug 3rd, 2007 01:11 am |
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Posted: Aug 3rd, 2007 01:11 am |
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Posted: Aug 3rd, 2007 02:59 am |
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Jim Flynt wrote: Further, which incumbents running for office are not worthy of voters rehiring with their votes and why?
This is called "mud slinging", which I hope Mr Lovett can rise above.
Mr Lovett, let's hope you can campaign positively, showing the voters what you have to offer, and not stoop to tearing down other candidates.
the other questions Jim poses are very good questions in my opinion.
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Posted: Aug 3rd, 2007 03:10 am |
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Posted: Aug 3rd, 2007 03:30 am |
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Posted: Aug 3rd, 2007 10:41 am |
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Jim Flynt wrote: I do think that a discussion advocating change from the status quo (the current 3 incumbents) somehow must address WHY a change is necessary and WHETHER the change needed is an INDIVIDUAL change (remove one or two incumbents) or an ACROSS THE BOARD change (remove all incumbents).
Yet I do sincerely think it is not only FAIR but NECESSARY for any challenger to discuss an incumbent's voting record or votes on specific issues and share with voters how the challenger's vote or voting record would have been different from any one incumbent's vote or all of the incumbent's votes on any one or more issues and why. And I think that can be done without resorting to mudslinging or 'name calling.'
Without contrasting and pointing out the distinctions and differences with the status quo candidate or candidates, and successfully making the real case for change with the voting electorate, then the incumbent will always win and the challenger will always lose in a political campaign. It's as simple as that.
Just remember what Bill Clinton said: Every election is about change.
Agreed, thanks Jimbo
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Posted: Aug 3rd, 2007 01:26 pm |
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"Nothing is written."
The future of Summerfield is what the people of Summerfield make it.
Candidate Alicia Flowers says "It's business as usual in Summerfield." Continuing to make statements like that is business as usual in Summerfield, and I hope the candidates can move beyond that. Please!
I very much like what you said Mr Lovett and I like the way you said it. You got ol' Pappy's attention. I look forward to hearin' more about what you think and how you think.
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Posted: Aug 3rd, 2007 02:08 pm |
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Jim Flynt wrote:
Under what conditions if any, would you vote to overturn a planning board decision if elected to town council?
Further, under what conditions if any, would you vote in such a manner that your vote/decision was not consistent with the town's comprehensive land use plan if elected to town council?
Finally, what directional changes or improvements do you see that are needed (if any) with regard to planning, zoning and growth issues?
Very good questions!!! Here are my responses to the questions above
Question 1 & 2: The Zoning Board is only a recommending body on rezoning cases. It is the Zoning Boards responsibility to review the development ordinance, town compressive plans, and long range plans and apply them to the case and render a recommendation. In my opinion, it is the job of a T.C. member to take the recommendation and apply the following questions:
Is this the direction the town wants to go? Are the current ordnances practical/applicable to the direction that the town is moving or the direction that the town has indicated it wants to move? Has the direction (the community vision) changed since the ordinances were authored? Are the ordinances/plans silent on a particular issue, topic or use?
IF I was a T.C. member then these are some of the questions that would be the basis to formulate my decision.
Another situation would be when the zoning board renders a decision on a relatively split (3-2) vote. These types of decisions show a struggle of the Zoning Board to interpret the ordinance(s)... these types of cases must be reviewed even more closely so an informed T.C. member can become educated, render an informed decision on the case and then (so the issue would not reoccur) instruct Staff and/or Zoning Board to clarify the identified unclear/disputed ordinance using the long range plan and other documents and their basis for change/clarification.
Question 3: Some of the issues (in no particular order) are:
a.) Institute and poss. require more environmentally friendly construction methods/technologies (which are needed) to be incorporated into the long range plans.
b.) A better way to achieve smart growth (e.g. PUDs I need to do some more research on these before I can speak intelligently as to good vs. bad... this was just an example).
c.) Reign in (what I call) abuse of the OSRD ordinance. {Currently it has been used as a mechanism to get more homes in a development vs. the existing zoning designation. OSRD can be used as a smoke screen by the developers to construct more homes on smaller lots- increased density- while dedicating undevelopeable land as "open space" - sounds good but - the area would have likely remained open space anyway-due to development costs and the current ordinance's protection of environmentally sensitive areas.}
d.) Complete the Comphrensive plan currently being developed... this will give both the T.C. and zoning board members clearer direction that the community wishes to go.There are a lot of things that could be changed but all of them can not be tackled at once... it would be too confusing to the board members and the community and would be unfair to property owners rights. These must be prioritized and addressed one by one to be as efficient as possible.
e.) Be prepared (the boyscout in me) for the Jordan Lake rules! and the Phase II Stormwater regulations
Well I hope I have somewhat answered your questions... if not please tell me!
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Posted: Aug 3rd, 2007 02:26 pm |
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