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Posted: Jul 11th, 2007 06:20 pm |
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Jim Flynt wrote: Hairbrush wrote: If he resigned then the council would just have to accept applications again and go through the whole process again. The people still would not get to vote on that seat.
Hairbrush you are correct and that is the point that should be remembered.
Even if John Wray were to resign at any point within the remainder of the residual of the 'Crawford term', Summerfield voters would still not have the opportunity to select his replacement. That task under law still falls to the Summerfield Town Council.
Folks should recall that Stokesdale has had two vacancies on our council within the past 4 years so that we currently have two members serving on our council who were not elected by Stokesdale voters to those seats. (Powell Shelton has/had previously served on the STC but was appointed rather than elected to serve out the term of Councilman Berry while Bobby Richardson was appointed to serve out the remainder of the term of Councilman Vaughn).
I'm guessing that unless the Town Charters provide language otherwise, that vacancies in local elected offices are determined by provisions of state law. I'm also guessing that local governments could also change their charters to provide for special elections rather than appointments to fill interim vacancies, which is the case in some locales.
Correct me if I am wrong. The Summerfield Council cannot just make changes to the charter at a stroke of a pen or at certain Council members wishes. I has to go to the State Legislators.
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Posted: Jul 11th, 2007 07:39 pm |
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Baseball Buddy wrote: Correct me if I am wrong. The Summerfield Council cannot just make changes to the charter at a stroke of a pen or at certain Council members wishes. I has to go to the State Legislators.
Charter amendments can in fact be made by either a majority of the Town Council OR by approval of a citizen initiative, which is placed on the ballot and approved by a majority of voters. Neither method requires participation or sanction by the NC General Assembly.
A charter amendment was initiated by citizens in Stokesdale a few years ago to change the way our Mayor is elected, and was subsequently approved by a vote of 89% to 11% in opposition. It requires a petition of signatures from registered voters equal to 10% of the registered voters, and then it must be placed on the ballot no sooner than 60 days nor no more than 120 days from the petition validation by the Guilford County BOE.
A charter amendment cannot have the effect of being 'retroactive' or applied retroactively, so that even if a charter amendment was made through either method, it would only effect future vacancies and not the 'Crawford' vacancy.
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Posted: Jul 12th, 2007 12:05 pm |
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FatPappy wrote: It's still early yet, I reckon, but does anybody have any news to share on who might be plannin' to run for council this time? I understand possibly all the current council plans to run again with the exception of Collins who ain't decided yet.
Pappy, I noticed on the BOE website this morning that George C. Waldrep, Jr. has filed to run for Mayor. Anyone have anything to share on Mr. Waldrep? Of course Brown has filed, but no other names in the hat for this position yet.
And so far, Williams is the only candidate that has filed for town council seat.
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Posted: Jul 12th, 2007 12:32 pm |
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Much obliged, Grits. Pappy ain't got much to offer right now. I reckon we'll see as we get into it. I b'lieve they got till the end o' next week to file?
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Posted: Jul 12th, 2007 08:49 pm |
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Thanks everyone for keeping us up to speed with all the Summerfield happenings. It sounds like it was business as usual, with personal attacks by you-know-who. I am glad Mr. Wray is in for another 2 years. He is good for Summerfield. He is a stand-up guy that helps our town become something to be proud of and not an embarrassment, like some. Great to hear the good news!
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Posted: Jul 12th, 2007 08:59 pm |
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Mr. Williams has earned my "Hero of the Day Award." His suggestion seemed to be the best one made that night!
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Posted: Jul 17th, 2007 08:12 pm |
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As of 2:30pm 07/17/07 the GC BOE now are showing
Doug Canavello and Alicia Flowers for Town Council.
I am not SURPRISED!!!!
EVERYBODY PLEASE TELL US MORE OF THESE INDIVIDUALS.
BS is very supportive of these two.
I know who I am NOT voting for!!!!!
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Posted: Jul 17th, 2007 09:41 pm |
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Grits, I heard that two others signed up at town hall today. Williamson ( I forgot his first name...Adrian maybe? He's been seen in a lot of huddles with Ms. Dunham) and Rich Lovett have thrown their hats in the ring.
If I remember correctly, Rich Lovett was level headed. I will have to do more research on him though.....
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Posted: Jul 17th, 2007 10:58 pm |
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Several years ago (approximately 1998), I met Doug Canavello when a family farm and lake over in the Reidsville area of Rockingham County was severely polluted by a large plastics manufacturing company over there. Doug came to our attention as the President and owner of Pyramid Environmental Company in Greensboro (the name may have changed since then), service providers and consultants for environmental assessments, testing, investigation, and remediation. Doug came to us highly recommended by several of the larger and leading law firms in Greensboro as well as from several friends and land owners who had gone through the environmental remediation process for various and sundry reasons.
I personally worked closely with Doug for over a year on a frequent and regular basis and found him to be extremely intelligent, absolutely professional, well spoken, knowledgeable about growth and development issues, and on a personal level, highly likable and easy to get along with. I found Doug to be extremely reasonable, logical as well as practical, and moderate in listening to both sides before making a decision. These are vital traits for leadership and reflect this man's essential goodness and outstanding character.
Through Doug and his efforts, which included testing, test wells and remediation discussion and negotiations with NCDENR (where he was very well respected), Doug Canavello was largely responsible for our lawyers being able to force a clean-up of the pollution as well as obtain a nice settlement for my Mother for the damages inflicted upon our property by our corporate neighbor.
While I know nothing about his 'politics', I do hold Doug in the highest regard and would willingly support him with my energies, financial support and vote were I a Summerfield resident. He would add great dimension and bring tremendous wisdom and experience to a community which sooner or later may face environmental challenges and the deleterious effects of sprawl and over development.
You Summerfield folks need to take a close look at all of the candidates running for election over there this cycle and ask the tough questions of all of them. But I can assure you that Doug Canavello is not a political extremist by any definition and rest assured that he has and speaks an independent mind. A measured mind willing to look at all sides of an issue combined with a voice for moderation in any regard is what Doug would bring to the table of town government.
I envy you folks in Summerfield, as I wish we had a few Doug Canavello's running for office over here in Stokesdale!
You're tremendously lucky to have such a well qualified candidate running and offering to serve!
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Posted: Jul 19th, 2007 01:14 am |
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Well Mom is up to her usual tricks. Be sure and read the letter she wrote in the Guilford North section of the Greensboro News and Record. Trying as usual to give us a black eye. This time she is picking to Michael Brandt and Bill Hill, two very dedicated and hard working town staff members. Wonder why she doesn't move back to that obviously perfect State she came from. Oh could it be that taxes are half what they are in Illinois?
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Posted: Jul 19th, 2007 01:38 am |
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Yeah, I read that this morning as well Jane. Another way to spout off her displeasure. I really enjoyed how she states that one Town Council member will NOT be elected and NOT be appointed for the two year term. Mr. Wray was in fact ELECTED by the present town council when Crawford resigned due to his insecurities of what the public really thought of him.
For Strickland to outl-lash and request his resignation simply because he was not elected--and she was ELECTED. Then why did she ELECT WRAY.? I think I remember seeing her hand go up!
I have to say I disagree as for her to say that BS was the ONLY person representing the town who spoke up for the people. She is not speaking for me---BS represents her group of concerned citizens including Dunham.
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Posted: Jul 19th, 2007 12:24 pm |
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Poor ol' soul, she sounded a little confused or somethin' in that letter.
The process was legal and the seat's been filled by a better man. I don't see a problem. I see an improvement.
Here's a link to the audio on the NWO site. That part whar the Mayor says "Ma'am!", that's her.
http://www.nwobserver.com/newsfeed/?p=1766
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Posted: Jul 19th, 2007 01:58 pm |
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Good coverage of this in the NWO Online, includin' an audio clip!
Much obliged Sandra an' Patti!
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Posted: Jul 19th, 2007 02:55 pm |
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Already got my NW Observer. Good editorial by Patti about the whole (current)) S'field TC issue. Seems to me this is pretty typical behavior by one council member, to accuse and belittle.... has cost the town more than one employee, legal representative, and how many volunteers? (That one is probably one we'll never know....)
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Posted: Jul 19th, 2007 03:27 pm |
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Just listened to the audio of the portion of the S'field TC meeting about the appointment of Mr. Wray and the change in interpretation by the Bd of Elections. (Link is shown on homepage of NW Observer forum) Interesting.... Does Ms. Strickland always read a prepared statement when she has an issue? I personally think it is commendable that ALL TC members knew about this prior to the public meeting. I wonder if all town councils handle information so openly among all?
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