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FatPappy
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Posted: Jun 16th, 2007 01:57 pm |
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I think it's interestin' how differ'nt towns work.
I was readin' in the NWO about Oak Ridge adoptin' their budget with an 8.somethin' prop'ty tax rate an' all kinds o' money budgeted fer parks an' such. Meanwhile, SF has more people an' a 3.somethin' rate an' some folks say it's killin' us!
Aha! But what happens when they discover they need to unexpectedly spend a few more thou on the acoustics in their new town hall (new town hall??!!)? Now we'll see some action, I thought! Nope, they just proceded to fix the problem without any overwhelmin' cries o' criminal intent or incompetence. SF would have had to spend a few thou on fulfillin' FOIA requests an' a truck load o' yeller tape fer the "CCSI-Summerfield" crime scene investigation. (Actually, I b'lieve they use red tape.)
Anyway, just thought it was interestin'.
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DOGGETTJA
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Posted: Jun 16th, 2007 04:26 pm |
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| Sandra I thought it was an excellent and very fair way to appoint the committee. I think 27 applicants was a good number since they wanted 15 to 20 on the committee. I don't not think the people should have been interviewed if in fact the town wanted a fair representative cross section. The applications that were filled out gave the pertinent information. People showed an interest by filling the application out. There did not seem to be any effort to push the committee one way or the other ie a lot of developers for example did not apply. There are some old residents, new, business people etc. In other words a good cross section of the town seems to be representative. The people who got the most votes from the council got put on the committee and the fact is with only 7 alternates for a committee that is expected to last a year and a half will probably result in all the applicants at some point have a vote.
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Jim Flynt
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Posted: Jun 16th, 2007 04:33 pm |
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S. Smith wrote:
Those of you at the meeting know there was some dissention among the council about the way this group was chosen. Everybody looked at the applications and then rated them from 1 to 27 (I think that's how many applications they received). Then they sent their list to Finance Officer Dana Luther, and she put together the list based on the council's votes.
Do you think this was a fair way to choose this group? One person thought the council should have interviewed the people, but evidently they had the option of contacting people individually if they wanted to (sounds like that's what John Wray did).
Do you think enough diversity is represented? (I guess that could be all kinds of stuff, from young people vs. retired, newcomers vs. longtime residents, business people vs. maybe stay-to-home moms, people in the development/real estate industry vs. those not, people who had served on committees before vs. those who had not been involved in town activities, etc. etc.) Becky seemed to think that when the public learns the makeup of the group, they will not support it or the plan these people put together. Do you agree?
(I've highlighted my questions so you can see what I'm asking.)
Sandra, would you please share the names of WHO was appointed to this committee for those who haven't heard?
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Jim Flynt
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Posted: Jun 16th, 2007 04:36 pm |
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FatPappy wrote: I was readin' in the NWO about Oak Ridge adoptin' their budget with an 8.somethin' prop'ty tax rate an' all kinds o' money budgeted fer parks an' such. Meanwhile, SF has more people an' a 3.somethin' rate an' some folks say it's killin' us!
It should also be pointed out that the Town of Stokesdale imposes NO property tax on its citizens whatsoever and seems to be providing services similar to or greater than the other two communities without imposing a tax.
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Steve Adkins
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Posted: Jun 16th, 2007 08:24 pm |
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S. Smith wrote: Becky seemed to think that when the public learns the makeup of the group, they will not support it or the plan these people put together. Do you agree?
Becky probably will have a problem with it, since Becky tends to have a problem with virtually everything.
Since the group consists of a representative group of the public, the group IS the public, and in all likelihood, will come up with a very reasonable plan.
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Posted: Jun 17th, 2007 12:13 pm |
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Steve Adkins wrote: Since the group consists of a representative group of the public, the group IS the public, and in all likelihood, will come up with a very reasonable plan.
Actually, the group is a sub-set of the public.
A group of the public would be a committee of the whole or the entirety of all members.
An example:
Let A be the set of all Blondies and let B be the set of all women. All the blondies are women, but all women are not blondies. The set of blondies is a subset of the set of women. If all the women were Blondies then the set of Blondies would be equal to the set of women.
You might wish to consider updating your understanding and knowledge of set theory and can do so at the following weblink:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set
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Posted: Jun 21st, 2007 02:03 am |
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Jim Flynt wrote: S. Smith wrote:
Those of you at the meeting know there was some dissention among the council about the way this group was chosen. Everybody looked at the applications and then rated them from 1 to 27 (I think that's how many applications they received). Then they sent their list to Finance Officer Dana Luther, and she put together the list based on the council's votes.
Do you think this was a fair way to choose this group? One person thought the council should have interviewed the people, but evidently they had the option of contacting people individually if they wanted to (sounds like that's what John Wray did).
Do you think enough diversity is represented? (I guess that could be all kinds of stuff, from young people vs. retired, newcomers vs. longtime residents, business people vs. maybe stay-to-home moms, people in the development/real estate industry vs. those not, people who had served on committees before vs. those who had not been involved in town activities, etc. etc.) Becky seemed to think that when the public learns the makeup of the group, they will not support it or the plan these people put together. Do you agree?
(I've highlighted my questions so you can see what I'm asking.)
Sandra, would you please share the names of WHO was appointed to this committee for those who haven't heard?
I guess my question was more about the method of how the people were chosen as oposed to who they really are.
But for those that are interested, committee members are Gary Ajemian, Bill Gordon, Jef Chalmers, Nancy Hess, Charlie Chappell, Michael Huntoon, Ken Dunham, Mia Malesovas, Mitchell Fahrer, Terry McLean, Alicia Flowers, Paul Milam, Dawn Ford, Lewis Nash, Dail Perry, Steven Pierotti, David Shaw, Linda Southard, Randy Tinsley, Bill True.
Non-voting ex officio members are Doug Canavello, Dwayne Crawford, Parker Jackson, Erin McLean, Peggy McPartlan, Anne Nusskern, Steve Stalker.
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Posted: Jun 21st, 2007 02:47 am |
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| The Town of Summerfield passed its budget tonight with the majority of the money for the matching grant to finish the park and to buy and build ballfields. Hopefully next year this time we will have more ball fields for the kids to play on and a park to walk and meet in.
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Posted: Jun 21st, 2007 12:05 pm |
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| Good news Jane !!
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Posted: Jun 21st, 2007 02:07 pm |
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S. Smith wrote: Jim Flynt wrote: Sandra, would you please share the names of WHO was appointed to this committee for those who haven't heard?
But for those that are interested, committee members are Gary Ajemian, Bill Gordon, Jef Chalmers, Nancy Hess, Charlie Chappell, Michael Huntoon, Ken Dunham, Mia Malesovas, Mitchell Fahrer, Terry McLean, Alicia Flowers, Paul Milam, Dawn Ford, Lewis Nash, Dail Perry, Steven Pierotti, David Shaw, Linda Southard, Randy Tinsley, Bill True.
Non-voting ex officio members are Doug Canavello, Dwayne Crawford, Parker Jackson, Erin McLean, Peggy McPartlan, Anne Nusskern, Steve Stalker.
Sandra, Thanks for answering my question. Looks like a fairly 'representative' group to me. I'm sure they will do an outstanding job.
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Posted: Jun 22nd, 2007 05:44 pm |
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Steve Adkins wrote:
Good news Jane !!
Pappy'll second that!
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Posted: Jul 6th, 2007 01:09 pm |
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| It's still early yet, I reckon, but does anybody have any news to share on who might be plannin' to run for council this time? I understand possibly all the current council plans to run again with the exception of Collins who ain't decided yet.
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Posted: Jul 7th, 2007 01:56 am |
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I don't know Pappy, but I heard that Mr. John Wray went to sign up to run for re-election in Nov. and was told down at the BOElections that he still had 2 years left on his term.... I reckon he's gonna have to finish out ol' Crawford's term after all......
Not real sure what happened there... Last I heard (at the council meetin' where he was appointed), he was gonna fill the seat until November and have to run to keep it, now the powers that be say different....
That's a good thing I'm thinkin'.
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Posted: Jul 7th, 2007 02:21 am |
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So Ol' Dwayne can run for a brand new 4 year term then right?
I'm hearing he is in the race!
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Posted: Jul 7th, 2007 04:19 am |
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Jim Flynt wrote: So Ol' Dwayne can run for a brand new 4 year term then right?
I'm hearing he is in the race!
Heard the same thing. Should be interesting.
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