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JamesAttaway Member 
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Residents of Stokesdale Postal District, As we all know, The Stokesdale Post Office is in need of new facilities and the reasons are: Lack of Parking for both customers and employees include in lack of loading dock space. Unsafe Parking- people must at times park across US 158 and cross over no light or cross walk. It is my understanding from working on this project for over ten years, at one time we were #3 on a building list. Then came Floyd and Katrina and then no list at all. I have been advised that the best way to pursue this matter is to lobby our representatives in D.C. Please call and contact each person on the list below at least once a month untill we achive our goal. Residents in the Rockingham portion of the district should contact Rep. Viginia Foxx , she represents the 5th Congressional District. I have just sent a letter to her regarding this concern and am awaiting her response.I also urge the NWO to publish this list. As always I welcome your input! James Attaway Elizabeth Dole web site Dole.senate.gov 310 New Bern Ave ste 122 Raleigh, NC 27601 1-866-420-6083 Richard Burr burr.senate.gov 2000 West First Street ste 508 Winston-Salem, NC 27104 336-631-5125 / 800-685-8916 Virginia Foxx foxx.house.gov 240 highway 105 extension ste 200 Boone, NC 28607 828-265-0240 Howard Coble coble.house.gov 2102 North Elm Street Greensboro, NC 27408 336-333-5005 Lets all contact these folks once a month and I bet we can achive our common goal! Last edited on Aug 7th, 2007 07:47 pm by JamesAttaway |
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Tweety Bird Member
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JamesAttaway Member
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Tweety, Could you post Mr. Dix address? That way we could bombard his office. I do plan on trying to get some pictures of the traffic and parking problems we can send in to officials. Thanks |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edited by poster. Last edited on Aug 5th, 2007 12:19 am by Jim Flynt |
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JamesAttaway Member
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Jim, It has been said that space has been offered at the new Town Complex. I personaly have contacted and discussed saftey issues with a safety manager for the post office about four years ago. To bad TC are not represented here to answer for themselves, maybe they will answer your question. It is also said that postal officials have been offered space by prominent bussines men and they also have been turned down.  Last edited on Jul 23rd, 2007 01:30 am by JamesAttaway |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edited by poster. Last edited on Aug 5th, 2007 12:19 am by Jim Flynt |
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JamesAttaway Member
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I am sure any offer included a fair rental price. As for as location, maybe they are following the Oak Ridge lead in placing public buildings. |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edited by poster. Last edited on Aug 5th, 2007 12:20 am by Jim Flynt |
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JamesAttaway Member
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Maybe we should also ask people to tell us on this thread where they would like to see a new Post Office. I would not want to see a tax levied to build a building I would Hope it could be built without a tax. Iwould not support a city tax of any type unless a dire need situation, say something mandated by the feds. |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edited by poster. Last edited on Aug 5th, 2007 12:20 am by Jim Flynt |
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S. Smith Moderator
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James, Thanks for starting this thread. I think it would be great for local citizens to get involved in this matter. Maybe if enough letters are received, it will make a difference. Jim Flynt wrote: James, since you once served on the Stokesdale Town Council, perhaps you can share with us what, if anything, the current Mayor and Town Council have done to find a solution to this problem? Jim, I'm not sure it's fair to beat up on the town council on this issue. The USPS is not under their control, any more than the DOT, DENR, EPA or any other agency. I think the council can and certainly should check into this matter and apply pressure if that's possible, but I don't think we can imply that they have any real say-so, short of giving the post office space at no charge or renting a space somewhere for them. Last edited on Jul 23rd, 2007 02:13 am by S. Smith |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edited by poster. Last edited on Aug 5th, 2007 12:20 am by Jim Flynt |
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macca Member 
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Jim Flynt wrote:James, since you once served on the Stokesdale Town Council, perhaps you can share with us what, if anything, the current Mayor and Town Council have done to find a solution to this problem? Since we've more or less acknowledged that there are few Stokesdale residents participating on these forums, and none of them seem to be members of Town Council, my question would be whether any of these questions have been posed directly to those Council members, so they would have the opportunity to respond directly? |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edited by poster. Last edited on Aug 5th, 2007 12:21 am by Jim Flynt |
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JamesAttaway Member
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I think we should bear in mind that the Stokesdale Postal district also includes an area of unincorporated Rockingham, I also am advocating for these residents who need a voice also. Since they are part of the postal district their thoughts should be considered too. |
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macca Member
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Jim Flynt wrote:Clearly a new post office is one of the top 5 issues of importance to Stokesdale citizens. This may or may not be true, Jim. How do we know what the top issues are if we haven't polled the population to find out? Just because it may be one of our most important issues doesn't make it so for the entire town. Right? |
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Jim Flynt posted: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX From my own observations and conversations with well over 200 Stokesdale citizens, the hands down opinion is that both a post office and Stokesdale Town Hall should be located somewhere in the Stokesdale 'core area' or historic downtown somewhere between the two stoplights (68/158 and 158/65). XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Jim, just where in this corridor is a place available to build any new structure, much less two with adequate parking for both citizens in the case of the TC complex and customers and employees of the PO? I'd like to see both the TC building and the PO built in the core, but it seems any such new construction would need to be to the north or south of Main St. (158) to remain in the core. I treasure the old-timey look of Stokesdale's downtown, but I just don't see where new development can go. Perhaps with your extensive real estate experience you can enlighten us? And by the way, James- I'm one of those interested Rockingham County Stokesdalians. The city limit may have cut me out of the vote, but I'm darned if won't be heard on the issues. |
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Tweety Bird Member
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Last edited on Aug 21st, 2007 06:28 pm by Tweety Bird |
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Tweety Bird Member
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macca Member
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Tweety Bird wrote:I have been corresponding with Senator Dole and also Henry L. Dix, Greensboro District Manager of the Postal System. Pictures were sent along with a question concerning the possibility of asbestos in that old building. We are on our 2nd round of letters. You are absolutely right that everyone living in Stokesdale has to get on the bandwagon and write, call or e-mail the people you listed. I will get in touch with them as well as keep up my exchanges with Senator Dole. Thanks for your suggestion. Now, fellow Stokesdale residents, one letter from each one of us would have more impact than 5 or 6 letters from just me. You know, Tweety, I think you may be on to something here. Think about all of the Neighborhood Associations there are in and around Stokesdale. There is also the Senior group that is organized thru Senior Services, plus churches may be willing to at least help spread the word about how to contact our representatives. If a different group sent them letters each month, that should impress them! In addition to just getting the word out to residents who could individually contact them advocating for a new post office! |
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Tweety Bird Member
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macca Member
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While I agree that we shouldn't have to beg/document the need, obviously SOMETHING needs to be done.... We aren't making any progress the way things are going now. I think the idea of putting info in the NW Observer is fine, but I think people are more likely to actually follow up and write if asked personally to do so.... |
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JamesAttaway Member
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Tweety and Macca, Thanks for your support and ideas. Possum thanks for your input also. |
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darrelldawg Member 
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Tweety, was is not MR. Attaway's idea to have the NWO publish the political hot shts address? Darrell D. Dawg |
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Tweety Bird Member
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CUZ Member 
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Maybe the Town of Stokesdale can have the planning dept., the sherrif's dept, and any others that it can direct, to issue citations to the USPS for any of the following: 1. Safety concerning the large potholes that seem to always be in the parking lot. 2. The lack of sufficient handicap spaces and the lack of good markings for same. 3 The lack of crossing signs for Hwy158. 4. In general ugliness. |
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Tweety Bird Member
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JamesAttaway Member
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Tweety & Macca and any body else, How about a nice petition drive? I would suggest setting up at the post office but we know there is no room. I bet David at the Bi-Rite would let us set up there or at the Christmas parade Lets bounce this around and see what we could come up with |
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Possumhund Member
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Outstanding idea, James! I'm on board; how can I help? |
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JamesAttaway Member
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Thanks for volunteering Possum, we need apetition drawn up stting our purposeand some one to man the table lets see who jumps in! Possumhund wrote: Outstanding idea, James! I'm on board; how can I help? |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edited by poster. Last edited on Aug 5th, 2007 12:22 am by Jim Flynt |
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Possumhund Member
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How's this fellows? The Word file is ready for anyone who would like it emailed to them for further editing!
Petition to Build a New Postal Facility in Stokesdale, North Carolina
Whereas, the Post Office in Stokesdale, North Carolina, postal code 27357, is inadequate in size for the community served, has inadequate parking space for its customers, is located in a crowded and dangerous location for its customers to access, and has inadequate facilities to allow its employees to safely and efficiently perform their jobs, we, the undersigned residents of the Town of Stokesdale and its surrounding postal zone, hereby petition our congressional representatives listed below, to intervene on our behalf with the United States Postal Service in requesting a new postal facility for our community. We invite our congressional representatives to be our guests for a tour of the facilities so that they may see for themselves that conditions described above are true and valid and be certain that their intervention on our community’s behalf is well founded. Elizabeth Dole 310 New Bern Ave ste 122 Raleigh, NC 27601 Richard Burr 2000 W. First St., Ste 508 Winston-Salem, NC 27104 Virginia Foxx 240 hwy 105 ext., Ste 200 Boone, NC 28607 Howard Coble 2102 North Elm Street Greensboro, NC 27408 Name of Eligible Voter Signature of Eligible Voter Address of Eligible Voter Date Signed |
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Possumhund Member
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Actually, that copy/paste didn't get all the formatting right, but y'all get the gist. Again, just give me your email address (by private message if you prefer) and I'll send the file to you. |
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JamesAttaway Member
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Thanks Possum great work I guess we need one or more contact names one for Rockingham and one for guilford, lets see who pops up. Maybe we need to try to meet and work out all the details Tweety will probably be in here later. I can take pm if people want me to facilitate and arrange a meeting so as to maintain the cloak of their secret ID or I can be e-mailed at JPattaway@bellsouth.net I pledge to maintain any secrect ID. It might be best to just e-mail direct that way nobody has to reveal any thing. |
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Possumhund Member
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James, I've sent you an email with the petition attached. Since I am a Rockingham Co. resident I can take that role initially, but I travel for a living and might not be able to attend any meetings Monday through Thursday if that becomes necessary, so we may need to ID another person. I think 'Bama here said he lives on Ellisboro Road, maybe he's in Rockingham and would consider taking on the role? I think this thing might have a chance to work! |
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Tweety Bird Member
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Last edited on Aug 22nd, 2007 12:07 am by Tweety Bird |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edited by poster. Last edited on Aug 5th, 2007 12:22 am by Jim Flynt |
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JamesAttaway Member
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Hi Folks, I think this maybe our best shot yet I have been told that continous political pressure will work and backed up with petitions from people in both counties there is power in numbers and next year is an election year for the House. Also the TC did offer space and a rent break and was rebuffed this should be in a cover letter accomping the petition. Tweety outside th P O would be great also bet we could set up outside at the ballpark. all sorts of places. Possum I am ready to meet on a Saturday to get organized will look at the petition form later today. Again thanks and united we can and will make a differance! P S why cant NWO put a spell check on here? Last edited on Jul 25th, 2007 06:09 pm by JamesAttaway |
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Possumhund Member
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Tweety, Don't get discouraged by Wentworth's experience. Even though they are the county seat, its very small and the Reidsville, Madison, and Stoneville postal limits come very close to the town keeping the number of people on their postal routes fairly low. Stokesdale on the other hand is growing by leaps and bounds like our neighbors O.R. & Summerfield, both of whom have new postal facilities. If new post offices are justified there they certainly are here. Besides, if we can get a thousand voter signatures on our petition I don't think Ms. Dole or any of the other reps will ignore us. Keep the faith! |
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Tweety Bird Member
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edited by poster. Last edited on Aug 5th, 2007 12:23 am by Jim Flynt |
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Tweety Bird Member
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edited by poster. Last edited on Aug 5th, 2007 12:23 am by Jim Flynt |
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Tweety Bird Member
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Thanks Jim! |
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JamesAttaway Member
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Jim Flynt wrote: JamesAttaway wrote:Thanks JIM,P S why cant NWO put a spell check on here? that was a big help. Possum has suggested a meeting Saturday afternoon, How does anyone else feel about this Saturday? Time and Place to be determined I can check Tomorrow on the Town Hall This meeting would be open to all. |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edited by poster. Last edited on Aug 5th, 2007 12:24 am by Jim Flynt |
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Possumhund Member
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You gotta bunch of trees to plant or what, Jim? Mr. Attaway suggested a meeting, I suggested a time that I could attend. I presume he has a good reason for wanting to meet given his experience in the public arena. It might also be good for those few among us who do not have or do not care to use computers. It also gives everyone in the community an opportunity to see what we're planning - I think the accountants call that transparency, nothing to hide, right? |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edited by poster. Last edited on Aug 5th, 2007 12:24 am by Jim Flynt |
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CUZ Member
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If someone could compose an email, I will get the links to our reps and supplie them, thenthere should be a way each forum member/visitor can copy/paste there own email to each. Just need one of you techno guys/gals to take the lead. |
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Possumhund Member
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Flamebait- gets them everytime. We'll keep you in the loop, Jimbo. |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edited by poster. Last edited on Aug 5th, 2007 12:25 am by Jim Flynt |
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Possumhund Member
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True enough Jim. Just spoke with Cuz and he has another, possibly very productive, technical means for pressuring our congressional reps. We can discuss it then. |
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Vicki White-Lawrence Member 
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Jim Flynt wrote:Tweety Bird wrote:I still am earnest about stationing myself outside the Post Office to garner signatures if you fellows believe it will help. Tweety, Let me know when you will be at the post office and I'll come and take a picture to put in the paper!  |
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Vicki White-Lawrence Member
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JamesAttaway wrote:Possum has suggested a meeting Saturday afternoon, How does anyone else feel about this Saturday? Time and Place to be determined I can check Tomorrow on the Town Hall This meeting would be open to all. Possumhund wrote: Just spoke with Cuz and he has another, possibly very productive, technical means for pressuring our congressional reps. We can discuss it then. James, If you'll let me know when you are meeting, I'll try to come as well (if that's okay). If anyone in the group doesn't want to divulge their identity to me, that's okay as well. You could just let me know if there is any way I could be of help. Thanks to all for working on this project! Possumhund, I'm curious about that "very productive, technical means for pressuring our congressional reps" is! |
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JamesAttaway Member
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Vicki, IN MY opinion all are welcome and I hope everyone uses their real name and does'nt use their forum name lets keep it bussiness. time about 1 pm I am still working on a place. Hoping for a neutral place. So everyone will feel at ease. |
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Vicki White-Lawrence Member
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Thanks, James! Keep me posted and I'll see what I can do. |
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JamesAttaway Member
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Hello everybody, I have booked Stokesdale United Methodist Church, For the meeting about a new postal facility. TIME: 1PM. Saturday 7/28/07 The church is located downtown across from the post office. Leave your forum identity (if you have one) at the door. This meeting is open to all. This meeting is a community meeting that includes Rockingham users of the Post Office. Please post any topics for discussion either here or e-mail to: jpattaway@bellsouth.net this way I can work on an agenda. Thanks, James Attaway |
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Possumhund Member
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I'll be there and bring some copies of the original draft of the petition. We may want to rethink how/who we are making the appeal to (congress people vs. USPS) and there may be other revisions required. We'll need to decide on some dates to setup to gather petitions. I'll try to get some other Rockingham folks up there as well. Are there any specials rules/laws about how petitions must be handled to be valid, i.e. chain of custody, etc.? Can more than one copy of the petition exist so that they can all be joined together for submission? On days when we setup to gather signatures it would be nice to have several pairs of volunteers at each location so no one has to work more than 2 or 3 hours in a row; I know from personal experience with other organizations that a full day of sitting out in the sun on concrete can be a miserable experience. That's all I can think of now. Who else out there has some thoughts on this? Thanks, James, for making the arrangements with the SUMC. |
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JamesAttaway Member
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Possumhund wrote: I'll be there and bring some copies of the original draft of the petition. We may want to rethink how/who we are making the appeal to (congress people vs. USPS) and there may be other revisions required. We'll need to decide on some dates to setup to gather petitions. I'll try to get some other Rockingham folks up there as well. Are there any specials rules/laws about how petitions must be handled to be valid, i.e. chain of custody, etc.? Can more than one copy of the petition exist so that they can all be joined together for submission? On days when we setup to gather signatures it would be nice to have several pairs of volunteers at each location so no one has to work more than 2 or 3 hours in a row; I know from personal experience with other organizations that a full day of sitting out in the sun on concrete can be a miserable experience. That's all I can think of now. Who else out there has some thoughts on this? Thanks, James, for making the arrangements with the SUMC.Thanks Possum for your Help and support! Jim do you know how legal this petition has to be but does it just need to be sort of informal, Tweety do you have any expertise in this area? |
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James Attaway you are a very impressive individual. You are certainly listening to what the people want in Stokesdale and a real go getter. You along with others here on the forum are taking charge and seeing that you guys get a new post-office. You are a extra ordinary fine individual that truely defines leadership, someone to look up to. I hope you guys win and get your post-office. |
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Tweety Bird Member
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JamesAttaway Member
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Tweety, Thanks for all your effort and support. I think we might just make a difference. |
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Jim Flynt Member
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macca Member
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How did the meeting go today? |
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JamesAttaway Member
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Macca I ll write up a summary and post it Jim was elected to take up his idea of placing the petition with merchants. |
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Possumhund Member
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Thanks Jim, for doing that! I can save you one stop; David at Bi-Rite said we could set up at the intersection of 158 & 65, out of his business traffic at he edge of the parking lot. He would like to be notified of the date when we'll be doing this in advance. I apologize for missing the meeting today. I came back to the house, after my morning appointment with Bill Pegg, sat down in the recliner with my laptop to visit my favorite website and was promptly stricken with "FatPappy" disease (I went to sleep). Slept plumb through our meeting. "Course, that may be a good thing. I find, after I've passed the half century point in my years, that if there's one trait of mine that's becoming more childlike- I get cranky when I don't have my nap! Let me know what I need to do to help. |
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JamesAttaway Member
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SUMMARY OF POST OFFICE MEETING
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Thanks for the recap, James. We'll be glad to help publicize this effort -- let us know if there's anything we can do beyond that. |
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Tweety Bird Member
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JamesAttaway Member
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Stokesdale Postal Facility Group Mission Statement It is the mission of the Stokesdale Postal Facility Group to contact United States Postal Officials and Congressional Members on behalf of the Postal patrons of Stokesdale, North Carolina in an effort to acquire a new Postal facility that is safe and customer friendly. Goals 1. Acquire a new Postal Facility for Stokesdale |
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CUZ Member
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Found this story about a town in NY wanting to relocate it's post office. They actually have grant monies for small towns to put together a strategic plan for just this purpose. http://wellsvilledaily.com/articles/2007/07/27/news/news06.txt |
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Possumhund Member
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Nice link, Cuz! At least in NY their U.S. Senators seem to support their local constituencies. I wonder if any of the empty spaces in the old downtown area would have adequate floor space inside for the PO? I think there is at least one property with enough room around back to support a loading dock with room for a tractor-trailer if necessary. The increased foot traffic would benefit all the current businesses there and maybe give enough impetous to encourage new businesses in the empty spaces. I can remember when that stretch was truely the heart of Stokesdale with a thriving business in nearly each storefront. |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Possumhund Member
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Actually, I think the SouthRich proeprties are occupied already, but I had in mind the space that Pegram hardware used to occupy. I think I heard that its owned by a Doctor although I can't be sure of that and I don't know the name. |
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Possumhund Member
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Jim Flynt wrote: Possumhund wrote:I can remember when that stretch was truely the heart of Stokesdale with a thriving business in nearly each storefront. Fine memories, Jim! I do remember most of those places although the bank had moved to its present location by the time I can recall. and the train depot across the road was actually a working site with a coal merchant utilizing it and pulp wood loggers offloading all day long. On Saturdays there were a right many folks down there shopping and socializing. Fond memories indeed. |
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Possumhund Member
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Jim Flynt wrote: Possumhund wrote:Actually, I think the SouthRich proeprties are occupied already, but I had in mind the space that Pegram hardware used to occupy. I think I heard that its owned by a Doctor although I can't be sure of that and I don't know the name. I can check on that for you- they may know. |
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mrsnose Member
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Have you all written the letters to our legislators? Mine are long gone. We have to do more than just discuss the situation on this blog. Let's get with it. James provided the addresses. Get others to write too. |
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CUZ Member
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I was hoping to point out with the article I linked, that we should explore getting the TC involved and having a strategic plan from that body of government, that would ask our represententives to get on board with a "plan of action" that had been well thought out. To write and request a new Post Office without the plan as to where it will go, when it would move, if it met zoning, and how much it would cost the USPS, might get a sympathetic ear, but probably no reactions that would make the wheels start turning. Or maybe I'm wrong, who knows? |
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JamesAttaway Member
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CUZ wrote: I was hoping to point out with the article I linked, that we should explore getting the TC involved and having a strategic plan from that body of government, that would ask our represententives to get on board with a "plan of action" that had been well thought out. Cuz, After over a decade of Letter writing , personal meetings, telephone calls as a TC member(1993-2005), and knowing of efforts made by the current TC. The time has come for a Stokesdale Stamp Party with the mass of the Stokesdale Community(citizens of both Guilford and Rockingham) to rise up and let its collective voice be heard as a force to be reckond with. This is the effort the Stokesdale Postal Facilities Group (SPFG) is advocating, by means of a phone call, letter writing, e-mail and petition campaign. We believe that a show of intent will force the issue with our legislative bodies as well as with Postal Officials. While these bodies may choose to ignore the efforts of individuals and maybe the efforts of a political body. They cannot ignore the orchastrated movements of a citizens organization intent on an inevitable result. The what when where and how much will come, If these questions are not already answered by long term plans. The goal of SPFG is to gain the acknowlegdement of the USPS that a facility will be built and in a timely manner . It is our hopes that at that point the proper political bodies will then endeavor into the whats, whens, and wheres and cost of this undertaking. Last edited on Aug 1st, 2007 11:36 pm by JamesAttaway |
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James, I am not trying to downplay the groups efforts, nor do I want you to fail. I will gladly help by getting signatures on petitions, telling friends and relatives to contact their representatives, etc. What I would like to see, is someone willing to take this cause back to the TC and as a former councilman and a candidate, I feel you could probably get a better response than some others could. There are grants out there for this type of research and planning, and I would venture that most of these are of the "matching monies" variety. Hence, maybe you could convince the TC to appoint one of their own to your group, and designate it as a committee under their board to study and proceed with further inquiry into this endeavor. These grants are listed under community development/rural development categories. I myself have already written and faxed correspondence to the reps you listed, and I do appreciate all your efforts. |
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I could care less about being politically correct. I just feel that aspiring candidates for the Stokesdale TC would find this a grand bandwagon to get on and PUSH our Council to take further steps. My mother is in her mid 70s and has had a PO box for 37 yrs. If she were to get hurt on that daily trip, I would hold the USPS AND any other entity that did not do enough responsible. I quote Mr Attaway:"They cannot ignore the orchastrated movements of a citizens organization intent on an inevitable result." Neither can the people that WE elected to our TC. Attachment: po.jpg (Downloaded 38 times) |
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Ok, I'll concede the lip service. But has the TC ever formed a committee to search for ways to convince our FEDERAL representatives, by any means(and possibly by paying for outside expertise to devise such a plan, with grants) or have they actually sent someone to DC to visit these reps, etc., etc. If we still can't even get the potholes fixed, they have not worked as hard as my vote thought they would. Someone on that council needs to step up to the preverbial pump. Attachment: pothole.jpg (Downloaded 36 times) |
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Thearon Hooks Jr. Member
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I for one would have accepted the invitation to go to the meeting regardless of whether I was running for office or not. My wife has complained every time she goes to the PO and can't get a space. I think that it is utterly ridiculous not to have more than one regular parking space for the amount of activity that we have and the # of PO bxs in the PO. One handicap space is also nonsense. I realize that the TC has made numerous attempts to procure a new PO but it may take more than just them to make the Postal authorities realize that we are here! |
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Thearon Hooks Jr. Member
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Jim, what is your take on this whole issue, how can we maximixe our options? |
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CUZ Member
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We are in a poor state of political affairs if the citizens of this town must go over the heads of their own elected officials. In my opinion, we should all present our opinions and our petitions and our demands, BEFORE this election, and see who gets there rear in gear and who doesn't. Even tho only one incumbent is running for re-election this time, there will be another one in a couple of years. Am I the only person who thinks they should DO MORE? How much should the TOWN OF STOKESDALE spend for this need? Maybe this is a bigger need than a new Municipal Majal. I personally know citizens and business people from Stokesdale who drive to Oak Ridge to do In office postal business. |
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Thearon Hooks Jr. Member
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One thing that has crossed my mind is the possibility that one fire in that strip would wipe out our post office. Cuz why do you think that the current TC has backed off on the idea? |
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CUZ Member
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Maybe they are too busy designing buildings for park land. Maybe they are too busy worrying about who's gonna be sitting next to them in a few months. Maybe there just isn't anyone on the TC who is sitting on a pair. Poker, of course. Last edited on Aug 3rd, 2007 01:44 am by CUZ |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Thearon Hooks Jr. Member
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I would think that it would be a feather in the cap of the TC if they were credited with the accomplishment of a new PO. Now that the 158 bypass has been tabled for a period of time, the h2o system and the new town hall facilities seem to be the major issues on the TC plate. I don't fully accept that they have exhausted all of efforts. We may not be the biggest wheel in the parade but I see every day certain political squeaky wheels getting all of the oil one at a time, why can't we. |
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CUZ Member
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A pair of 9s, maybe. Anyone gonna show aces? Good game Mr. Hooks, Jr. |
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Thearon Hooks Jr. Member
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One other point that I would make and that is if this group swelled to a large number of patrons then the TC would have no choice but pay attention and create a any type of resolution it takes. I too understand that Gov't takes it's collective time, especially when it is not Gov't's idea but, it would be a great thing to stand at a ribbon cutting and realize that the TC and the citizens together overcame Goliath. Last edited on Aug 3rd, 2007 02:42 am by Thearon Hooks Jr. |
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CUZ Member
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You definitely are sitting on a pair of face cards, sir. |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Thearon Hooks Jr. Member
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I have two ideals that I try to stick to, the first being "do what is right" and secondly don't tell me how it can't be done but how it can be done. I went back to school when I was 27 y.o. married with children, worked three jobs and carried a full college load. When people say that it can't be done I ask them not to fool themselves into thinking that is an reason, just an excuse. I would much rather a man tell me no I don't want to do something rather than give me ten reasons why he can't do it. I am not generally fooled, the mirror is the best indicator of blame a lot of times. |
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Thearon Hooks Jr. Member
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Jim, you are right, it is time for a change. |
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Possumhund Member
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I can verify that, Jim. One of the investors explained the setup to me when I was soliciting donations for the Park from him (you think he was trying to politely tell me something?). There's a foundation that own's the land & PO building which is leased to the USPS. I think he told me that was a fifty year lease. I wonder what kind of facility and location the USPS would deem acceptable in Stokesdale, and maybe Stokesdale could form a trust to fund a local charity(s) with any profits? How many angels would be required to fund such an endeavor? |
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Jim Flynt Member
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JamesAttaway Member
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Hello group. I have talked to the owner of the building that the Post office is in. He tells me that when He leased to the post office in 1977, He was told then the Post Office would be in a new facility with in 3 years. It is now 30 years and no new building he advises he wants to be the first to sign the petition. I have been asked by members of SPFG to call a second meeting I propose 1 PM a week from tomorrow. Place to be announced. |
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Jim, I was asked to call a meeting for the purpose of allowing people that could not make the first meeting, to come out and take part in the process. We also need to plan outings for signitures and finalize the wording of the petition and prepare a letter to accompany the petition to congress. Hope you can be there even though you dislike meetings.  Last edited on Aug 3rd, 2007 02:34 pm by JamesAttaway |
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Thearon Hooks Jr. Member
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I think that we can contact the owner of the building and see what materials are in the building that may be decomposing and start from there. On the other hand, the owner may incur a large liability if there are such materials openly decomposing so we will have to walk gently through the process. |
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JamesAttaway Member
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Thearon Hooks Jr. wrote: I think that we can contact the owner of the building and see what materials are in the building that may be decomposing and start from there. On the other hand, the owner may incur a large liability if there are such materials openly decomposing so we will have to walk gently through the process. In my humble opinion, We should focus on our prime objective which is to obtain a new facility. I think by focusing on the obvious, 30 years in the same spot while tripleing in customers. Traffic safety and parking problems and total congestion should be a gracious plenty to justify a new place. The current lease is due to expire in 2010, 3 years should give the post office plenty of time to get something going. But we must strike while the time is right. |
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Tweety Bird Member
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JamesAttaway wrote: Thearon Hooks Jr. wrote:I think that we can contact the owner of the building and see what materials are in the building that may be decomposing and start from there. On the other hand, the owner may incur a large liability if there are such materials openly decomposing so we will have to walk gently through the process. Last edited on Aug 22nd, 2007 08:08 pm by Tweety Bird |
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Unless we get the TC on the ball with a firm commitment to do whatever it takes, then some other entity is going to have to come up with money to get the USPS' attention. As already posted, they have only ONE reason they can't do this, and that's the angle we will prob have to take, since Mr. Coble(and others, by their lack of responses) think it will be years. $$$$$ talks, politicians(for the most part), give lip service. Edit: Mr. Hooks, I will exclude you from that group, for now. Last edited on Aug 4th, 2007 02:28 am by CUZ |
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hARD TO EVEN GET STAR WARS STAMPS IN STOKESDALE. |
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Jim, If we have a petition writing meeting next Saturday do you plan to be there? |
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Tweety Bird Member
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Jim Flynt wrote: Tweety Bird wrote: I Last edited on Aug 22nd, 2007 08:07 pm by Tweety Bird |
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darrelldawg Member
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Gentelman Jim Flynt People dont plan to fail - They fail to plan Sort of like of like taking 15 minutes to plan on planting trees but not planning on how to get water to keep those trees alive in the Dawg Days of Summer. Give em a break if you cant think of it then dont condem it. Darrell D. Dawg Give me a bud! |
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Forum Participants, I don't like some of the comments I've just read on this thread, and I can see the potential for another verbal battle. If this forum is going to continue, it's going to have to do so without requiring a 24-hour referee. Bottom line, if you want to constructively engage in conversation about how to get a new post office in Stokesdale, I encourage you to do so. Otherwise, take your postings, your innuendos and your accusations to another venue. I remind you of the terms of agreement that each of you signed before participating in this forum: flame ideas, not people, or leave. Thanks, Patti Stokes |
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EditorPS wrote: Forum Participants, Last edited on Aug 22nd, 2007 08:12 pm by Tweety Bird |
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Jim Flynt wrote: Finally, I have to be candid and wonder now from reading this week's article in The Northwest Observer if this whole idea isn't really a ploy for visibility in the upcoming town council elections for some rather than a genuine and sincere effort to actually see if we can't get a new post office for Stokesdale. (Just read the first paragraph of the story and tell me I am wrong). I refuse to be part of any effort designed to pander to voters. I did go back and re-read the first paragraph, and the entire editorial. Frankly I thought it was well written, the final 2 paragraphs were particularly complimentary of this topic, and the actions of those who were willing to put the petition together. Sandra called it a "success", I'd have to agree. didn't get any political overtones at all. From the words in the editorial, I interpreted that the editors were pleased that folks saw a need in the community, and in the space of a few days the forum provided a communication venue that resulted in a plan, not just a bunch of whining. I'm not going to say "you're wrong" Jim, I'll just say I read a much different and more positive message. Good luck to y'all in getting the petition together and getting the signatures. |
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Tweety Bird Member
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Jim Flynt, I can honestly say that my question at the TC meeting precipitated all of the furor over the P.O. Since then, I have been writing incessantly to numerous officials and was happy that others picked up on this endeavor. Let's energize the effort and not tear it down. I do look forward to sitting outside the PO with you to garner the signatures we need. I have a few ideas for strategic places to gather everyone's "X" on the petition. As soon as the petition is drawn up by the group, I will contact you. Let's have some fun with this. It doesn't have to be all work. I will even bring along Sylvester (aka 1Keptman) |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Kindly disassociate me/my name from your little 3 member partisan group. Ciao. Last edited on Aug 5th, 2007 12:03 pm by Jim Flynt |
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mstone Member
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Jim, Please reconsider your decision to refrain from participating in the forum discussions. While you and I do not always see eye to eye on issues and ideas, I always enjoy and appreciate the open, honest, and spirited exchange of ideas. You've changed my mind a time or two, and I value your opinions. Just my opinion, as a conservative independent thinker, but this forum needs folks that question the status quo and who aren't afraid to challenge us all to think at a higher level and to be prepared to defend our ideas, ideals, traditions, suspicions, and positions. |
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Well, OK then. I guess I'll be able to sleep tonight after all.  |
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I knew the post office was a hot topic but man it was kind of smoking for a little while there. |
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JamesAttaway Member
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Glad to say I have had several calls and inquries by folks wanting to sign the petition and show support. |
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Did y'all see this article Ryan Seals wrote about the PO? http://www.news-record.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070805/NEWSREC0112/708050312/1058/NEWSREC0112 |
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Awesome article. Fellow really did some good homework didn't he? |
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JamesAttaway Member
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Hello Everybody, There will be a meeting of the Stokesdale Poastal Facilities Group 1:00 Pm at Stokesdale United Methodist Church. Everyone is invited Please come and help make a differance. For more info call James Attaway at 643-7289 |
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The petition drive was started today at the Post Office by Eileen! Thanks Eileen for braving the heat! I should have a petition at The Town Hall by 8/22/07 That can be signed by any one wishing to sign it. We will have drives and announced dates at places later. I f you would Like a petition to have signed by a church or civic group please contact me at jpattaway@bellsouth.net Thanks again Eileen and lets all wish Eileen a big birthday wish on Tuesday!! James |
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Jim Flynt Member
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From what I have heard (from quite reliable sources) the US Post Office facilities management personnel have actually suggested that a petition drive is a terrible waste of time. Edited by Super Moderator because poster was flaming a person, not an idea. Last edited on Aug 21st, 2007 01:46 am by |
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POST DELETED BY SUPER MODERATOR. FLAME IDEAS, NOT PEOPLE. THE SUBJECT OF THIS FORUM IS "NEW STOKESDALE POST OFFICE." Last edited on Aug 21st, 2007 02:21 am by |
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POST DELETED BY SUPER MODERATOR. FLAME IDEAS, NOT PEOPLE. THE SUBJECT OF THIS FORUM IS "NEW STOKESDALE POST OFFICE." Last edited on Aug 21st, 2007 02:24 am by |
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POST DELETED BY SUPER MODERATOR. FLAME IDEAS, NOT PEOPLE. THE SUBJECT OF THIS FORUM IS "NEW STOKESDALE POST OFFICE." Last edited on Aug 21st, 2007 02:26 am by |
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Jim Flynt Member
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The Moderators have decided that readers of the Northwest Forum are not intelligent enough to hear the truth. Thank God for the United States Post Office. Stokesdale Voters will hear the truth no matter how hard the Northwest Observer tries to supress it. |
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CUZ Member
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The idea of this post is a terrible idea. The poster says he, himself, has spent has spent decades, (mostly in an elected official's capacity) trying to get a new post office, with no luck. What good would a community petition do if our elected high officials can't get it done? What an awful idea. Surely there are better ideas out there. Maybe we should take the minutes from those decades of work and see if we can fine tune a better idea. I have an idea we could come up with hundreds of better ideas. Any ideas? |
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Jim Flynt Member
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I have kept every single one of the posts which have been removed tonight from this thread. I will continue to ask every registered voter in Stokesdale WHY the Northwest Observer does not want them to hear the truth? I will ask Stokesdale voters WHAT does the NORTHWEST OBSERVER have to hide? There is simply ONE out of control moderator on this forum tonight. Last edited on Aug 21st, 2007 12:57 pm by Jim Flynt |
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CUZ Member
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That's an idea. But I have a better idea. Why don't we flame the ideas of this idea, and your idea, and not even tell anyone that we have an idea why we don't like the idea. Last edited on Aug 21st, 2007 02:39 am by CUZ |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Stokesdale citizens are laughing their butts off over here over this whole fiasco and the Northwest Observer doesn't have a clue. For whatever reason the NWO doesn't want the truth told nor do they want you to hear the truth. Last edited on Aug 21st, 2007 12:52 pm by Jim Flynt |
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CUZ Member
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Someone please give me an idea as to how I can flame an idea without telling all about why I have an idea as to why I don't like the idea in the first place. If you don't like this idea, then I have an idea all you can post is: "this idea stinks". Never mind that you have a particular reason or idea as to why the idea is a putrid idea. |
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Vicki White-Lawrence Member
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Jim & Cuz, At the risk of drawing fire from you (and maybe an "off-topic" from the Moderators), I would like to know why you want to be so critical of an effort to improve our community. I don't know who "Cuz" is, but I know Jim has done things he thought would improve our community. I don't recall seeing people on this forum making fun and being rude about your efforts. I for one think that more is being done right now in a concerted effort than has ever been done on an ongoing basis to see what can be done to get a new post office for Stokesdale. We have a relative newcomer to our town who got it going. Some other folks then jumped on the bandwagon. Yes, they happen to be running for office, but that doesn't mean they can't be involved in this project. Are their motives pure or are they just seeking election to town council? Frankly, I don't care if it helps us get a new post office. I think you are missing the point the Super Moderator is trying to make. If you want to start a new thread or forum or whatever the correct terminology is to discuss some of these other theories, then do it, but this section of the NWO forum is to discuss "New Stokesdale Post Office." I write for the paper and know that we aren't trying to keep the truth from anyone. I believe we're just trying to keep a handle on a forum that is part of our web site. |
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I would like to think I have done a few things in my lifetime to enhance life in this community, Vicki, and if you will look at ALL of my posts on this topic, you will see I am a big supporter of this effort. What I had to say about the OP, was not worthy of "the sword", and since it was done in this forum, I felt I needed to address it here. I have started a new forum for further discussion, or not, on that subject. Long live the postal brigade. Karma to anyone with ulterior motives. Last edited on Aug 21st, 2007 03:35 am by CUZ |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Vicki: Are you suggesting that if we start a new forum topic, we will be allowed to discuss the actual voting records and actual minutes of the Stokesdale Town Council to show that the claims being made by at least one of the candidates running for office are nothing more than either mendacious deceit or the imagination of their own mind? I will be more than delighted to explain more fully my position on a new post office for Stokesdale as well as to suggest why the current efforts are seen by most Stokesdale citizens as nothing more than a political scheme by two desperate candidates. I do not doubt for one minute Eileen's sincerity and pure at heart motives in trying to get a new post office for Stokesdale. Yet as I have suggested to her in several emails, she is simply caught up under the wrong circumstances at the wrong time by the wrong people operating a scheme for the wrong reasons. Don't take my word for it: Come up to the Family Diner for breakfast any morning and you will get an earful from citizens and voters who see these shenanigans the same way Cuz and I do and happen to agree. Or simply ask the incumbent town council members and the other candidates for town council what they think. You and the Northwest Observer can count on one thing: The truth will be told about this issue regardless of whether or not the truth can be posted online on the NWO Forum. (And the truth includes the past voting records of former incumbents and the official minutes of the Stokesdale Town Council). As I said before: Thank God for the US Mail. Last edited on Aug 21st, 2007 03:58 am by Jim Flynt |
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Vicki White-Lawrence Member
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Sorry to take so long to respond. My computer is being slow tonight. Again, I don't understand why anyone would criticize whatever efforts are going on to get a much-needed new post office for our town. I don't think anyone would deny we need one. It's small for customers as well as employees; there is not enough parking; employee vehicles from the post office as well as other businesses in that strip of buildings have to be moved in order to allow large USPS trucks to deliver mail to the post office and it's downright dangerous just trying to get in and out of the parking lot. In terms of using the forum to prove that someone is misrepresenting him or herself, I'm not the person to determine that. All I can do is direct you to the forum rules. |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Perhaps if the Northwest Observer sent an unbiased observer or reporter out to see how Stokesdale citizens view the political motives of the proponents, the Northwest Observer would understand what Cuz and I are saying. I won't hold my breath in the meantime however.......... Last edited on Aug 21st, 2007 12:55 pm by Jim Flynt |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Vicki White-Lawrence wrote: In terms of using the forum to prove that someone is misrepresenting him or herself, I'm not the person to determine that. All I can do is direct you to the forum rules. I guess it is OK under the NWO Forum rules to discuss misrepresentation by elected officials or point out their voting records as long as those elected officials have a last name of Crawford or Strickland. Obviously, under those very same NWO Forum rules, any other elected official is hands off for discussion of their record. Last edited on Aug 21st, 2007 12:51 pm by Jim Flynt |
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There was a fellow a few years back that lived over on the south side of the Greensboro city limits. It was said the fellow allowed his property to become run-down and he ran afoul of county ordinance somehow or the other with the effect being that the county attempted to jail him/confiscate his land/fine him or some combination or these; I really don't recall the details too clearly. What I do remember is that the property owner had some legitimate complaints about the way his case was handled. The downside to this story, though, is that the fellow behaved so erratically, so irrationally (including fake bomb threat to the county commisioners) that his position was marginalized. Most folks just assumed he was crazy, didn't believe anything he said, and did not support him in any way. Jim, I'm afraid all this "the sky is falling" talk of yours is heading in that direction; I know it seems to creep into any topic you post on and detracts from the legitimate discussion. Please get a grip. |
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Jim Flynt Member
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If anyone would like to read the posts which were edited or removed last night by Steve Atkins under this thread as well as the Summerfield Town Council thread, please send me your email address and I will forward copies of all edited/removed posts. Then you can decide for yourself whether or not these posts were in violation of the NWO Forum user's agreement. And I continue to maintain, as I have in the past, that there is a huge and horrible conflict of interest for the Northwest Observer to continue to allow this individual to serve as a Moderator of this Forum, given his position as head of Friends For Summerfield. |
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Jim, Steve no longer serves as moderator and hasn't for awhile. He stepped down because he felt that he could no longer be a moderator and be involved in the friends for summerfield. I don't remember what thread he stated that one. I don't know who the super moderator is now, but it is not Steve. |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Hairbrush, I was born at night. I just wasn't born last night. Fairytales are for children. |
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Possumhund wrote: Jim, I'm afraid all this "the sky is falling" talk of yours is heading in that direction; Possum, I have never suggested that the sky is falling. Either literally, figuratively or metaphorically. What both Cuz and I did suggest, was that a reading of the official minutes and the voting records of the Stokesdale Town Council does not support the claims being made by a former incumbent on the STC with regards to any public efforts on his part to bring a new post office to Stokesdale. When both Cuz and I made posts to such effect last night, those posts were removed and castigated as flaming an individual rather than idea. Yesterday morning at breakfast, several Stokesdale citizens who did attend the last Stokesdale Town Council meeting described the presentation by the proponents of this petition drive as weak, confusing, rambling and unfocused. One current TC member went so far as to describe the petition presentation as a complete 'fiasco'. I wasn't there at that meeting, but these folks were, and I respect their opinions. Obviously, every citizen of Stokesdale, myself included, wishes for a new post office for this community. No individual and no political candidate owns this issue. Nor will or should any political candidate ultimately be able to take sole credit when the postal service ultimately decides to move on this issue. No doubt, years from now (the current lease is in place through 2010). No matter which course of action or process is followed, a new post office for Stokesdale is still years away, and I personally believe that once Election Day has come and gone, so too will the current participation by a couple of political candidates evaporate as well. There simply is no history of support or activism on their parts save and except in the current election cycle. Sadly, while the initial idea was a good one, the idea and efforts were high-jacked by a couple of desperate political candidates trying to establish name recognition and visibility amidst the current town council election cycle, and in so doing, they corrupted what should have been a larger non-partisan and non-political community wide effort. Possum I think if you will get out during the week and talk with a few Stokesdale citizens, you will find great support for a new post office, yet correspondingly, a far greater suspicion of the political motives of some of the leaders of this petition drive. That was all I was trying to say and suggest last night, and due to an out of control moderator, that simple message was not allowed to stay posted nor to be heard. Last edited on Aug 21st, 2007 02:15 pm by Jim Flynt |
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It looks like this forum is getting "Off Topic" again, which seems to be at least part of the problem last night. It seems to me that we, as individuals, as a town, as consumers of the services provided by a post office, should explore every option available to try to get the attention of the U.S. Postal Service. I think it's obvious to everyone out here that we could definitely benefit from a new facility, and it is frustrating when we see other communities get them while we continue to be told there is no funding for one. Last edited on Aug 21st, 2007 01:45 pm by macca |
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GRITS Member
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Hairbrush wrote: Jim, Steve no longer serves as moderator and hasn't for awhile. He stepped down because he felt that he could no longer be a moderator and be involved in the friends for summerfield. I don't remember what thread he stated that one. I don't know who the super moderator is now, but it is not Steve. This is off topic but it is to support Hairbrush and Steve as no longer Super Moderator: Steve Adkins wrote: The recent chain of events in Summerfield, along with my position as chairman of the Friends For Summerfield group, has made it increasingly challenging for me to ride the fine line between the SuperModerator, which should be serving in an impartial capacity, and a Participant. There are often time comments I would like to make but simply cannot, and would rather be able to voice my opinions freely as a Member. I've discussed this with Patti Stokes & a few others, and feel it would be best if I stepped out of the SuperModerator role. Therefore in the not too distant future, the SuperModerator title under my name will be changing to Member, and I will no longer be calling the "off topics" and the "policy violations". We have agreed that the role of the SuperModerator should be primarily to monitor the forum comments to ensure they are on topic and adhering to our forum rules, notify participants of policy violations, and to get rid of spammers. The forum's maturity over the past 18 months has been great, and it's overall impact in the community equally great. It's great to be part of such a successful communication vehicle. Let's continue to watch it grow !! Steve |
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mrsnose Member
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Last edited on Aug 21st, 2007 07:55 pm by mrsnose |
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macca Member
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Well said, mrsnose!! Thank you!! ♥♥♥ |
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macca Member
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While I doubly support the comment, I didn't mean to post it twice!!  ♥♥♥Last edited on Aug 21st, 2007 04:27 pm by macca |
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mrsnose Member
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Thanks! I can use a double dose! LOL |
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Jim Flynt Member
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mrsnose wrote: I wish everyone would "lighten up". There is a goal to meet... Now, why don't all the critics join the cause mrsnose, There are many people in Stokesdale who have been working on getting a new post office here, long before this latest petition drive effort was even dreamed up. Numerous individuals from Stokesdale have met with and discussed a new post office with our congressman and with other elected officials as well as with regional and national postal officials, and those conversations have and will continue. There are many different avenues which may be taken on the road toward getting a new post office for Stokesdale and the petition drive is only one of them. As I mentioned before, the post office officials at the higher decision making level have actually suggested and said that a petition drive is essentially worthless. However, if there are those who simply want to do something to simply be doing something, then by all means proceed ahead. It will be their waste of time and not mine. Two other groups of individuals that I am personally aware of are proceeding more directly in their efforts to either bring a private mail facility such as Mail Boxes USA to Stokesdale while another group of business leaders is attempting to locate a vacant parcel of land and offer to build to suit a facility for lease to the USPS. So just because some of us choose not to be part of one petition effort does not mean that we aren't working on other efforts we believe will lead to far more productive results. Last edited on Aug 21st, 2007 05:45 pm by Jim Flynt |
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macca Member
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Glad to hear there are so many folks working towards a common goal! |
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Jim Flynt Member
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macca wrote: Glad to hear there are so many folks working towards a common goal! I have found over the years, that most of the folks in Stokesdale who actually accomplish much of anything do so in a manner quietly, diligently and below radar. The true movers and shakers aren't the publicity hounds. Nor the politicians. Last edited on Aug 21st, 2007 06:01 pm by Jim Flynt |
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Tweety Bird Member
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I will be withdrawing myself from this forum. Unfortunately, I have created a firestorm in the town of Stokesdale regarding this post office issue. I will not apologize since there was no ill intent or sinister aspirations on my part. The thought of having the town residents "laughing their butts off" over a project that meant so much to me is truly depressing. I fear that some have strayed from our Christian upbringing if the earnest attempt by a 64 year old woman has caused them mirth. I am not taking myself out of this forum as a retaliatory move, but rather as a conciliatory act. May peace come back to Stokesdale and may all those who are presently working towards securing all the facilities referred to recently have much success. I just wish I had been informed of this when I first joined this blog. Please be so kind as to wish me well. We are after all, one voice, one town and have one need. I will continue my individual letter writing campaign. Sincerely, Eileen Thiery To add a little levity, today is my birthday and I intend on "having my cake right now and eating it." Last edited on Aug 21st, 2007 06:36 pm by Tweety Bird |
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mrsnose Member
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I am signing off this forum. Last edited on Aug 21st, 2007 07:22 pm by mrsnose |
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FatPappy Member
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Tweety and mrsnose, I hope y'all change your minds and stick around. I know it gets frustratin'. Think about maybe takin' a break an' comin' back when you get rested up. |
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Tweety Bird Member
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Thanks Fat Pappy! |
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Hairbrush Member
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I second FatPappy. Sometimes you just have to take a break and just read and not comment. I love the spunk you two have so whether you stay on the board or not I know you will keep on being involved. That is what is important. |
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FatPappy Member
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Tweety, I intend to eat a big chunk o' cake, first chance I get, in honor of your birthday. The fact that I was gonna eat a big chunk o' cake first chance I got anyway is entirely beside the point. Hee hee. |
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Skiddles Member 
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Just do some read'n for a while and chime in when the feel'n comes over ya. |
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Tweety Bird Member
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Ate my cake and didn't even count the fat calories or sugar content! Jut was in Whipped Cream Heaven. I will continue to read the postings after I take my blood pressure medication! Thanks for the encouragement. |
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Cracker Jax Member 
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Good for you Tweetie! Everybody 'round here pretty much ignores the background noise because it's not productive. The way I see it, it's like Macca says, doesn't really matter why you're working toward a goal if it's for the betterment of your community. Much better than contunially working toward the detriment of one's community I'd say...... |
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Tweety Bird Member
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I appreciate the support. We are all in this together and it is nice to hear from you. |
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Scott L Member 
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Even though this forum is closing, I would like to discuss matters of importance to the community of Stokesdale. I can be reached at scottlawrence@triad.rr.com. Bye everyone. It was nice while it lasted. Scott |
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