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Jim Flynt
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Posted: Feb 27th, 2007 11:34 pm |
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While advocating for all of this positive change, why doesn't someone start advocating for giving your Mayor a vote? Surely the Mayor of Summerfield should have some power other than influence and be allowed something more than sitting as a knot on a log or simply attending ribbon cutting cremonies.
The current system in Summerfield makes your Mayor the least powerful member of a board where he should at least share equally in power. And anticipating the argument against, this change should be made even if such a change requires having to expand your council by one extra member.
Last edited on Feb 27th, 2007 11:38 pm by Jim Flynt
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Posted: Feb 28th, 2007 07:10 pm |
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Jim Flynt wrote: While advocating for all of this positive change, why doesn't someone start advocating for giving your Mayor a vote? Surely the Mayor of Summerfield should have some power other than influence and be allowed something more than sitting as a knot on a log or simply attending ribbon cutting cremonies.
The current system in Summerfield makes your Mayor the least powerful member of a board where he should at least share equally in power. And anticipating the argument against, this change should be made even if such a change requires having to expand your council by one extra member.
Well, that's definitely a point, Jim. I agree with you that the mayor should share equally in the power, instead of being a mere figurehead. But having an even number on the Summerfield council never seemed to be much of an issue. In several years, I could only recall one or two times when there was a tie vote, although that could be something that might come up more frequently in the future (depending on the opinions and personalities involved).
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Posted: Feb 28th, 2007 08:29 pm |
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| Wasn't the demand to take the vote away from the mayor initiated by the CC's.
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Posted: Feb 28th, 2007 11:07 pm |
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| Actually it was Dwayne Crawford who started the petition to remove the mayor's vote before he was part of the CC's.
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Jim Flynt
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Posted: Feb 28th, 2007 11:37 pm |
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DOGGETTJA wrote: Actually it was Dwayne Crawford who started the petition to remove the mayor's vote before he was part of the CC's.
Jane, Thanks for that history. What was the reasoning behind such a change?
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Posted: Feb 28th, 2007 11:59 pm |
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| To stop the sitting mayor from voting. Dwayne thought if he got the number of names required on the petition to get the item on the ballot that the mayor would lose the right to vote at the time that he presented the petition. Of course what actually happens is the change comes at the next council election.
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Posted: Mar 10th, 2007 11:25 pm |
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| The boy just cain't seem to get it right.
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Jim Flynt
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Posted: Mar 11th, 2007 02:33 pm |
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FatPappy wrote: The boy just cain't seem to get it right.
If the council member were an African American, I wonder if the Northwest Observer wouldn't instantly 'censor' or Edit your comment above? (Let us hope that maybe one day in the very near future, we will have an African American member of one of our NW town councils so we can find out).
The comment reflects an attitude of colonialism if not paternalism and one I had hoped would be relegated to the history books.
But as a supporter of Free Speech, I support your right to make whatever statements you feel necessary to elevate the discourse and help tone down the bilateral bickering and name calling back and forth.
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Posted: Mar 11th, 2007 02:58 pm |
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Jim Flynt wrote:
(Let us hope that maybe one day in the very near future, we will have an African American member of one of our NW town councils so we can find out).
Just had to point out, Jim, that the Town of Stokesdale has already had an African-American represent the town on its Council. This is from the statute to incorporate Stokesdale in 1989.
Sec. 3.3. From the effective date of this Charter until the organizational meeting of the Town Council after the 1991 municipal election, the members of the Town Council shall be Clifton Hill, Powell M. Shelton, Sr., A.B. Fulp, Jesse Joyce, and Larry Williams.
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Posted: Mar 11th, 2007 03:06 pm |
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Vicki White-Lawrence wrote: Jim Flynt wrote:
(Let us hope that maybe one day in the very near future, we will have an African American member of one of our NW town councils so we can find out).
Just had to point out, Jim, that the Town of Stokesdale has already had an African-American represent the town on its Council. This is from the statute to incorporate Stokesdale in 1989.
Sec. 3.3. From the effective date of this Charter until the organizational meeting of the Town Council after the 1991 municipal election, the members of the Town Council shall be Clifton Hill, Powell M. Shelton, Sr., A.B. Fulp, Jesse Joyce, and Larry Williams.
Vicki, Thanks for reminding me and refreshing my memory. You are so correct.
I knew Clifton Hill and thought the world of him both as a man and as a Stokesdale Town Council member. Unfortunately, a majority of Stokesdale voters did not share my sentiments when Cliff was not elected in the very first Stokesdale Town election. (As you point out, he was initially appointed to this position rather than elected).
Not in a million years would I ever have dreamed of addressing a great man of Clifton Hill's statuture or race by the word BOY. And I personally don't feel it is appropriate in addressing other adults as such either. Whether we like them or not.
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Posted: Mar 11th, 2007 10:17 pm |
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Jim, I reckon that was mighty thoughtful o' you fer tryin' to supply me with a racist motive when you saw I didn't have one, but you can keep it. I don't need to denigrate any racial or ethnic group to make a point. You, on t'other hand, don't seem to mind degradin' all African-Americans by shamelessly usin' 'em fer nuthin' more than stage props to dress up your little drama.
That's a insensitive racist thang to do. How dare you?
Dwayne Crawford has displayed immature judgement an' a vindictive childishness in his actions as a town council member. Thus the term "boy".
I'm gonna quit arguin' with you if you cain't stick to the point an' leave innocent bystanders out of it.
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Posted: Mar 12th, 2007 12:09 am |
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DOGGETTJA wrote: To stop the sitting mayor from voting. Dwayne thought if he got the number of names required on the petition to get the item on the ballot that the mayor would lose the right to vote at the time that he presented the petition. Of course what actually happens is the change comes at the next council election.
let's get back to the topic regarding System of Government change please
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