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Jim Flynt Member
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Edit. Last edited on Feb 28th, 2007 01:22 am by Jim Flynt |
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Vicki White-Lawrence Member 
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Jim, The Board of Directors is elected at the annual meeting of the fire department, which is held the 4th Tuesday in July. Elected for a new 2-year term July 25 were Wayne Southern, Don Hill, Bill Sorrell, Stuart Chandler, James Kallam and Archie McGee. The other Board members are Sammy Pegram, Ray Joyner, Tim Kallam, John Flynt, Seth Strayer and Anthony Vaughn. I know that the Stokesdale fire district extends beyond the town limits, so maybe some of the Board members live within the district but outside the town limits. Why not ask the Board directly? Sam Pegram chairs it. It's my understanding that anyone can run. I've attended these meetings for several years, and sometimes there are many folks running and other times there are only enough to fill the vacancies. If there are more running than positions available, then they have a team of volunteers count and verify who was elected. I believe the Auxiliary sometimes helps with this, and there have been times that it took quite a while because there were so many running and so many attending the meeting and voting. |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edit. Last edited on Feb 28th, 2007 01:22 am by Jim Flynt |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edit. Last edited on Feb 28th, 2007 01:22 am by Jim Flynt |
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Vicki White-Lawrence Member
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Jim, While we all feel for this young man, there is no way we can know what the whole story is -- and it IS a personnel issue between employee and employer. We have no way of knowing what extenuating cirucumstances there were, what other things might play into this action, or if indeed this action has been taken. We are all entitled to our opinion about it, but the bottom line is that this young man, as well as the two others with him, and the truck driver, as well as countless others who could've been victims of his actions, are lucky to be alive. I'm sure there are specific expectations of anyone driving one of those trucks as they approach any intersection to make sure it is clear of traffic before the driver proceeds. Obviously that intersection at that time wasn't clear and our whole town is very fortunate that no lives were lost. I don't see how we can second-guess whatever action was taken or not taken without having all of the facts. |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edit. Last edited on Feb 28th, 2007 01:22 am by Jim Flynt |
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S. Smith Moderator
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Jim Flynt wrote:
Thanks for sticking up for us women, Jim, but it could be that women would be welcome to serve but none have volunteered. If I were one of these "offended" women (which, by the way, as a forum participant I'm in no way offended merely by the fact that no women are serving here), I'd be checking out why no women are serving and think about volunteering or joining with other like-minded people and fielding a candidate of our own. If I found out that the FD wouldn't let any of the "little ladies" of the town serve simply because of their sex, that would be a different story. I'm all for making things equal, but sometimes it's not reasonable. How many minorities serve on the board? How many people with disabilities? I acknowledge that these comparisons aren't "apples to apples" because women do make up roughly half of the population, but if the board is comprised of, say, white men over the age of 50 that are Methodists, that doesn't mean there's necessarily discrimination going on. Maybe they're the only ones who volunteered and no minority race women under 30 who are Baptists wanted to serve (not that they weren't allowed by the "good ole boys" to). Last edited on Feb 14th, 2007 03:48 pm by S. Smith |
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macca Member 
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Good points, Sandra! Well stated. I certainly haven't heard about women wanting to serve but not being allowed to......???? |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edit. Last edited on Feb 28th, 2007 01:23 am by Jim Flynt |
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macca Member
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Excuse me, Jim, but I find that offensive. Just because we said we haven't seen any indication that the Fire Dept Board of Directors has deliberately kept women from serving doesn't mean that we would allow it to happen. Or that we would condone it. How are Board members usually recruited? Are they? Or do people just put their name in to be considered and all are placed on a ballot? I think you have tended to make it sound as though a conspiracy is going on, and I'm just saying I've neither seen nor heard evidence of it. |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edit. Last edited on Feb 28th, 2007 01:23 am by Jim Flynt |
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bama80 Member 
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Jim, they don't let Carolina fans on the BOD do they? just kidding. Off topic I know but i couldnt resist. Keep digging jim. I am curious now. Will these examples also correlate to the general history of stokesdale? |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edit. Last edited on Feb 28th, 2007 01:24 am by Jim Flynt |
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FatPappy Member 
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Jim Flynt wrote:Sounds like the two of you endorse the present Old Boy system (clique) which can best be described as: Pappy finds those remarks offensive, too. I applaud yer zeal to expose corruption an' discrimination (or whatever it is you got cornered up yonder), but don't be sayin' Macca an' Sandra endorse such things, passively or otherwise. I think it's purty clear they don't. |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edit. Last edited on Feb 28th, 2007 01:24 am by Jim Flynt |
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S. Smith Moderator
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Jim Flynt wrote: Sounds like the two of you endorse the present Old Boy system (clique) which can best be described as:Whoa! Back the truck up! Endorsing a good ol' boy/clique system and questioning whether one exists and if it does, asking if there a legitimate reason for giving the appearance of one (i.e., nobody wants to serve), are totally different things. |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edit. Last edited on Feb 28th, 2007 01:29 am by Jim Flynt |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edit. Last edited on Feb 28th, 2007 01:25 am by Jim Flynt |
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bama80 Member
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I tend to skim some posts but it seems like they are questioning you Jim on whether or not women have been excluded. I think they are wondering if any women have ever attempted to be on the BOD. Maybe their point is that you cant call it exclusion if no women ever volunteered. i can open doors but if no women ever walk through, dont accuse me of not opening doors for women. I know what I have heard but at this time, I have no particular stance on the issue until I have more info. So dont construe this post as argument. I am jsut trying to clarify (if only for my own benefit) what everyone is saying. hope it helps. |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edit. Last edited on Feb 28th, 2007 01:25 am by Jim Flynt |
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S. Smith Moderator
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bama80 wrote: I tend to skim some posts but it seems like they are questioning you Jim on whether or not women have been excluded. I think they are wondering if any women have ever attempted to be on the BOD. Maybe their point is that you cant call it exclusion if no women ever volunteered. Well said, bama. I, too, don't have a stance on this because I don't have enough info to make an informed decision. I've really got no reason to think discrimination exists -- or that it doesn't. The fact that someone presents a different perspective or point of view doesn't necessarily mean they are disagreeing with you -- it could just be that they're playing the role of devil's advocate or asking you to consider that other positions exist. Things are very often not just black or white ("if you''re not fore me, you're ag'in me"), but varying shades of gray. Precisely what shade things are often comes from what angle you're viewing them from. |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edit. Last edited on Feb 28th, 2007 01:26 am by Jim Flynt |
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FatPappy Member
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Jim Flynt wrote:From my reading of their posts, it did not seem that Sandra nor Macca were making the case for change. I think they were makin' the case fer figgerin' out what the case is before they decide what case to make out of it. Or, in Latin, is the status in tow, the actual status in quo? If you flush some critter out that needs blastin', I reckon we'll all he'p you blast it. You gotta let us get a good look at it first. |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edit. Last edited on Feb 28th, 2007 01:27 am by Jim Flynt |
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FatPappy Member
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Now yer talkin'! Pappy'll be oilin' up my 10 guage. |
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Cracker Jax Member 
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Uh... when exactly are we gonna get a look at this "critter"? |
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bama80 Member
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I am thinking he doesnt want a premature expostulation. ^couldnt resist that one. hope you all get it. its really pretty funny. |
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FatPappy Member
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bama80 wrote:I am thinking he doesnt want a premature expostulation. Hee hee. I get it.  I mean, I don't get it.  |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edit. Last edited on Feb 28th, 2007 01:27 am by Jim Flynt |
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S. Smith Moderator
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Jim Flynt wrote: FatPappy wrote:bama80 wrote: I will resist the urge to make a good ole boy network reference here. Now, ahem, back to the topic at hand..... |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edit. Last edited on Feb 28th, 2007 01:28 am by Jim Flynt |
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macca Member
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Jim Flynt wrote:FatPappy wrote:If you flush some critter out that needs blastin', I reckon we'll all he'p you blast it. You gotta let us get a good look at it first. Cracker Jax wrote:
Well???? |
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Jim Flynt Member
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Edit. Last edited on Feb 28th, 2007 01:28 am by Jim Flynt |
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getalong07 Member
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i dont understand the point in being so nosy about this. why wonder all this if someone is only going to criticize everything and everyone? u said the punishment was to harsh for the wreck at 68 and 158. i think i would rather be punished then fired????????????? (Edited by S. Smith) Last edited on Feb 21st, 2007 03:21 pm by |
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bama80 Member
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As stated above, there's more to it than that. I think that small issue brought to light (in jim's view only for now) many more issues. Also stated above in one of the many posts, he says that he believes the info he is getting will bring on a positive change for stokedale. Anyway, I have no stance on this issue because there really hasnt been any info given. I just happen to have a good memory and actually read all the posts. if you are opposed to him being nosey, does that mean you have something to hide? I dont believe he is invading anyone's private life. From what I know, he is looking into public offices and organizations. Taxpayers fund these things. Someone needs to be nosey when it comes to that. |
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summerfieldrd Banned
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Jim, Sounds like your looking in the right places! Keep up the good work! |
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getalong07 Member
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yea you have a point. butt if you (Edited by SMS) dont want to take time out of your busy life to volunteer your time for the community and help the community out than why put the people that do down in a hole. yea (edited by SMS) has points about SOME THINGS. (Edited by SMS) not the leader of this town, and does not rull anyones decision around this community. if you are so worried about stokesdale fire than why dont you go help them out and join? its scary to think the people that the fire department helps out talk bad about such a place. if something happens are you going to call the fire department? every community needs a person to stir the pot and i guess stokesdale has that person. there was a wreck with a fire truck and its over! no one is hurt, and thats the biggest concern. fire trucks dont just go out to hit other vehicles, it was a simple mistake so why bring it up any longer. everyone knows and you are not getting annwhere talking about it! if your life is ruined because of your communities fire department than obviously you dont have much of a life! (I made several edits to this posting, Getalong07 please see your Private Messages - Steve Adkins) Last edited on Feb 23rd, 2007 12:08 am by Steve Adkins |
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bama80 Member
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Well I dont know if you were talking to me for defending Jim Flynt but like I have stated over and over again, I am taking no sides. I think Jim has transcended from the Fire Truck incident and I believe he makes that point several times. I also think there was a mini-debate about the volunteering part that you are referring to and I think you should re-read those posts. |
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summerfieldrd Banned
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I think all governmental entites, with the exception of the military, should have COMPLETE transparency. That's what I believe in. If you do the right thing, you'll have nothing to worry about. |
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Jim Flynt Member
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This topic simply serves no useful purpose on this Forum. Last edited on Mar 21st, 2007 07:30 am by Jim Flynt |
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