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blessingsalways2u
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 Posted: Sep 1st, 2006 03:53 pm
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Hi Group,

Anyone out there grow grapes for wine? Not muscadine type but other varieties.

We have some extra land and were thinking about putting something on it.

Thanks,

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 Posted: Sep 1st, 2006 09:43 pm
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Blessings, My husband, Scott, who is also a contributer to the forum, (mostly on the gardening thread) has grown grapes and made wine for more than 35 years.... I will make sure he sees your request. He consults with people who are establishing vineyards, helping them know how to best use the land they have, what grapes would grow best, etc. In fact, he is out right now picking grapes from vines that were knocked down during that awful storm that passed thru Summerfield Wednesday evening.

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 Posted: Sep 2nd, 2006 01:55 am
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COOL Vicky, You are an answer to prayer. I was hoping to meet someone who could advice us. I am researching myself online and with the NC Grape Council but I always feel talking to experienced people is your best resource.

If he is interested in talking please send me a private message and we can get in touch with one another.

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 Posted: Sep 2nd, 2006 06:21 pm
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Read where the Yadkin valley grape growers assoc. were very concerned about how far grape prices have fallen this year due to overproduction. Last year grapes were 1000 to 1200 dollars per ton this year down to 400 per ton.

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 Posted: Sep 2nd, 2006 09:12 pm
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That is why I am doing research

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 Posted: Sep 5th, 2006 01:47 am
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This area has a very long history of grape growing. Back in the mid 1800s there was a fruit nursery in the Guilford College area that sold grapes for eating and winemaking throughout the Southeast. Some of the varieties include Lenior and Catauba which are still grown today by a few amateur growers. From the 1930s through the 1960s Dr. Robert Dunston, a professor at Greensboro College maintained a vineyard northwest of Greensboro, the lociation of which I am attempting to determine. He visiited France on several occasions and brought back hybrid grapes that were more resistent to many of our diseases. He also one of the first to breed crosses of our "bunch grapes" with muscadines. A friend of mine in Hillsborough uses his material to breed seedless eating grapes, none of which have been released, although many are better than the NY varieties sold by nurseries.
I first grew winegrapes here in 1974, after being told by Extension Agents and NC State"Experts" that only muscadines would grow here. I successfully grow Chardonnay, Cabernet Franc, Merlot, and others which I use to make wine myself and to sell to home winemakers. Prices go up and down like for any agricultural commodity so its no big deal that prices are down for the moment. Grapegrowing is fun but I would not depend on it for my major source of income.

Scott

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 Posted: Sep 5th, 2006 02:12 am
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A Winery Coop in the Yadkin area closed shop and was bought out by an individual. This left most of the coop members without a source for their grapes. The oversupply in that area has naturally suppressed prices. This kind of thing is normal for any agricultural commodity. I've grown winegrapes in Guilford and Rockingham County for 35 years with very few vine losses through all kinds of conditions. Growers in the Yadkin/Surry area act like they are onto something new but winegrape growing has history here in Northwest Guilford that goes back at least 150 years.

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 Posted: Sep 5th, 2006 02:21 am
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Jim,

I am sure that governmental regulations would prohibit a winery in downtown Stokesdale although we could plant some seedless eating grapes in the arboritum for citizens to enjoy. If somebody wanted to pick them to make wine for the Council our Deputy probably wouldnt stop them. I would be happy to talk to anybody here about the pros and cons of growiing grapes in Stokesdale.

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 Posted: Sep 6th, 2006 01:11 am
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Jim,

One I use is Grafted Grapevine Nursery in New York. I also use Vintage Nursery in California but with slightly less success. The minimum order is typically 25 vines without paying a rediculous price.

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 Posted: Sep 12th, 2006 04:24 am
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What about grapes for just plain eating or grape juice?

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 Posted: Sep 13th, 2006 03:17 pm
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I propogate a few locally bred seedless grapes for people who want to plant just a few for their own use. They have some disease resistence. Foster Grapevines is a source for larger quantities and they carry both eating and juice grapes. A relatively new one from Arkansas that does fairly well is named "Jupiter". Pretty much all grapes except for Muscadines required at least some spraying of fungicides during the Spring and Summer when grown here. All efforts to grow "bunch grapes" here organically have failed thus far.

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 Posted: Oct 16th, 2006 12:44 pm
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Okay where did this come from.. :shock:  Steve don't kill the grapes! I'm interested in the grape thingy now.

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 Posted: Oct 17th, 2006 10:31 am
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Skiddles,

it seems to a very interesting topic. We are thinking about planting some.


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