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DToney
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Posted: Oct 18th, 2006 02:06 am |
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Call it "water cooler chat" but I ran up on a conversation at work where some ladies stated "we should just let them alone and they should leave us alone and then we can all just be happy" and they were wondering why Bush did not sit down with the N. Korean leader and "talk" about our differences!
My comment was "it ain't gonna happen!" It was very hard for them to understand that concept.
I'd like to ask my forum buddies to "chime in" and tell your thoughts in the matter... I also broadened the topic to include other "gangsta" countries... if you'd like to bring others in on the list of those who would like to have their way with us. 
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Steve Adkins
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Posted: Oct 18th, 2006 03:21 am |
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Interesting you have some co-workers who think apple pie & motherhood is the approach to take with defiant countries that hate the USA's guts.
As far as Bush & what'shisname sitting down..........it's the same reason the Fox doesn't sit down with the hens, or the Lions didn't sit down with the Christians. Might have made a good photo opportunity, but neither side would have compromise in their vocabulary.
Last edited on Oct 18th, 2006 03:22 am by Steve Adkins
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DToney
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Posted: Oct 18th, 2006 09:53 am |
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great analogy! mine to them was "it would be like you sitting down with Manson!" Folks like this guy cannot be reasoned with... they want to eliminate us! 
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macca
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Posted: Oct 18th, 2006 09:59 am |
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| So what do you think we should do, DT, if reasoning with these "gangsta" countries won't work?
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DToney
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Posted: Oct 18th, 2006 10:28 am |
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| their narrowmindedness... and the fact they don't want to change... they want US to change because they feel we are in the wrong.
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macca
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Posted: Oct 18th, 2006 10:38 am |
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macca wrote:
So what do you think we should do, DT, if reasoning with these "gangsta" countries won't work?
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Jim Flynt
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Posted: Oct 18th, 2006 11:36 am |
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Two von Clausewitz quotes come to mind:
Nations always act in their own (national) self interest.
War is always a 'rational choice' which occurs when there is a breakdown in trade or diplomacy.
Carl Philipp Gottfried von Clausewitz (Prussian general and influential military theorist. He is most famous for his military treatise Vom Kriege.)
Last edited on Oct 18th, 2006 11:39 am by Jim Flynt
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DToney
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Posted: Oct 18th, 2006 12:29 pm |
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macca wrote: macca wrote:
So what do you think we should do, DT, if reasoning with these "gangsta" countries won't work? trade sanctions is a start! then what condi rice is doing is also great... lobbying their neighbors to stand behind us.
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Posted: Oct 18th, 2006 12:31 pm |
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| What's wrong with tryin' to talk to 'em?
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DToney
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Posted: Oct 18th, 2006 02:23 pm |
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FatPappy wrote: What's wrong with tryin' to talk to 'em? nothing at all... we can "try" & should!
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Posted: Oct 18th, 2006 04:10 pm |
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I think we need to do more than "try".
I'd start by complimenting Kim Jung Il on his hair an' go from there.
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Posted: Oct 18th, 2006 04:32 pm |
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| How's this for diplomacy... we could send some people over there to teach their armies how to bend their legs when they march. Whenever I see them lined up and marching, I just turn the sound off and hum the music to "Dance of the Sugarplum Faries." It's good for a quick chuckle. Of course I'm easily amused.
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Posted: Oct 18th, 2006 04:58 pm |
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mstone wrote: How's this for diplomacy... we could send some people over there to teach their armies how to bend their legs when they march. Whenever I see them lined up and marching, I just turn the sound off and hum the music to "Dance of the Sugarplum Faries." It's good for a quick chuckle. Of course I'm easily amused.
Thanks for the lunchtime laugh mstone! How funny!
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Posted: Oct 18th, 2006 06:36 pm |
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For those that are interested: Here is a Discovery Channel piece on North Korea and their Leader kim jyoung yeil, you may have seen it.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3787046457101273554&q=label%3Anorth+korea
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Posted: Oct 19th, 2006 12:42 pm |
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DToney wrote: FatPappy wrote: What's wrong with tryin' to talk to 'em? nothing at all... we can "try" & should! I know 2 people in Summerfield that could save them.....
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