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brewgeek
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Posted: Aug 26th, 2006 11:59 pm |
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I realize that we probably should "share the road" but it seems kind of selfish for 1 or 2 individuals during any certain time period hold up the whole rest of the traffic.
especially when it's recreational
and not an actual means of transportation (i rarely see anyone with a backpack which may/may nor conatin work clothes etc). Again, also upsetting when they are on obviously dangerous roads and not the bike paths created especially for them!!! 
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Posted: Aug 27th, 2006 12:04 pm |
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brewgeek wrote:
especially when it's recreational
Exactly.
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Posted: Aug 27th, 2006 06:36 pm |
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my pet peeve is that ANY folks that use the road during rush hour... NEED to be there so the rest of us working stiffs can get to work/home without dealing with the slower than usual traffic.... tractors ARE WORKING.... cyclist typically are NOT... like you said... recreational.................. 
plus I have a little more patience when it is NOT rush hour! 
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Posted: Aug 28th, 2006 12:28 am |
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Agree with all comments above.
The cyclist traffic seems to be getting heavier on 150 & Strawberry road by Battleground on the weekends.
Thankfully nobody has gotten hurt.......but it's just a matter of time. Mixing bicycles on same roads as cars just ain't smart. Might be legal, but not smart.
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DToney
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Posted: Aug 28th, 2006 09:58 am |
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they've been bad on Bunch Rd & Oak Ridge Rd too! 
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Posted: Sep 1st, 2006 03:24 pm |
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I know someone mentioned that the DOT said the cyclists have as much right to the road as anyone else.
I agree they should but should they not have to follow all the same rules of the road. For instance, and my biggest peeve with them, is that they ride 2 and 3 wide.
If i have a ugo or a mini i can't drive next to someone even if the lane is wide enough.
One Lane, One Vehicle width. This goes for motorcycles too.
Isn't that the law, or am i just jawing for nothing.
****JUST CALLED THE DEPARTMENT OF CYCLING AND PEDESTRIANS of NC****
There is not a law that requires them to go single file, nor is there a law that allows them to go 2 or more abreast. I guess it is the Old West for cyclists!
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Posted: Sep 1st, 2006 04:52 pm |
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| There was an interesting letter on page 31 in this week's NWO about this same subject. Looks like Oak Ridge is not the only place that has a problem.
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brewgeek
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Posted: Sep 5th, 2006 09:57 pm |
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DToney wrote:
really & truly... according to the DOT, (I hate to say... ) they have as much right to the road as anyone else.... (even tho they get on everyone's nerves!) What we SHOULD do is not pass them on double lines... we are putting them as well as ourselves & the other cars in jepordy.
this is also true for our tractors... I reckon we should give all of them our respect... can you imagine what they say (or feel) when they are passed in an unsafe manner or get honked at?
Does this mean we have to stay behind a cyclist going maybe 10 miles an hour while contrained by double yellow lines hoping and praying we don't get rear ended by someone going the speed limit (or more likely 9 over)? This could go on for more than 5 miles. And if for some reason I can't pass during those all too infrequent pass lines, I have to wait even more???? For a BICYCLE ON A JOYRIDE!?!?!?! Can someone from NWO answer this?? Is this true?? And If that is the case should the cyclist be passing cars while at a stop light? And while we're at it, what is our recourse (per DOT/NC law) if a bicycle does run into us? I don't want to sound rabid, I'm really more frustrated by the lack of safety and selfishness of the cyclists.
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Posted: Sep 10th, 2006 01:06 pm |
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brewgeek wrote: Does this mean we have to stay behind a cyclist going maybe 10 miles an hour while contrained by double yellow lines hoping and praying we don't get rear ended by someone going the speed limit (or more likely 9 over)? This could go on for more than 5 miles. And if for some reason I can't pass during those all too infrequent pass lines, I have to wait even more???? For a BICYCLE ON A JOYRIDE!?!?!?! Can someone from NWO answer this?? Is this true?? And If that is the case should the cyclist be passing cars while at a stop light? And while we're at it, what is our recourse (per DOT/NC law) if a bicycle does run into us? I don't want to sound rabid, I'm really more frustrated by the lack of safety and selfishness of the cyclists.
Hi brewgeek,
Sorry for the delay in responding -- since we posted this as a topic recently, we've received several comments, questions, and editorials (I've received two editorials within the last day -- one expressing frustration over what they perceive as rudeness on the part of the cyclists and one from a cyclist who actually does use his bike to travel to work). Each brought up good points, and we'll share them with our readers in the upcoming Sept. 15 issue.
As for your questions, we'll be doing an article on this topic in a near-future issue and will try to address all of them. For now, I will answer that I do not believe cyclists are legally required to travel in single file (but will certainly confirm). However, they are required to abide by the rules of the road, and I am almost certain that passing cars at a stop sign is not legal (again, I will confirm). As to the recourse if a cyclist collides into a car and it is the cyclist's fault, again, we'll check into that (good question -- do cyclists have any sort of liability insurance requirements -- I don't think so, but it hadn't occurred to me what would happen if they are at fault versus the car driver).
Obviously, some of the cyclist behaviors that our forum participants have described in these postings are not acceptable (and I'm sure the responsible and considerate cyclists would agree) -- just as those of rude drivers who tailgate, pass tractors in unsafe areas and make obscene gestures at others for doing the speed limit. Rude behavior of any vehicle drivers or bicycle riders should not be condoned.
We'll get back to you with some answers in the next few days, okay?
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Posted: Sep 11th, 2006 01:29 am |
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| That would be great. I used to be a cyclist and love the sport, but as a cyclist and a driver my concern is the unsafe conditions. If cycling is a part of this community (as farming is in reference to your concern about tractor traffic) then we should make it as safe as possible for all involved and have paths or decent shoulders made. I don't condone dangerous or rude driving at any time, and that incudes cycling as well.
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Posted: Sep 12th, 2006 03:02 pm |
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I'm now working on an article on this subject. If any of you have a comment or any information you'd like for me to possibly include in the article, please send me an e-mail at sandra@nwobserver.com.
Does anyone out there know how to contact any of the bike clubs in this area (or maybe someone is a member of one of these clubs)? Obviously there are large groups that travel certain roads on certain days as an organized effort. I'd like to speak to someone who is a member of one of these clubs.
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DToney
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Posted: Sep 12th, 2006 04:23 pm |
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Maybe one of the bike shops will know something...
Friendly Bike
(336) 852-3972 Web Site
5603 W Friendly Ave # D
Greensboro, NC Map 12.5 mi
Paceline Bicycles
(336) 540-0129
2919 Battleground Ave
Greensboro, NC Map
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Posted: Sep 12th, 2006 05:08 pm |
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| Thanks, DToney.
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Posted: Sep 17th, 2006 01:31 pm |
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S. Smith wrote: I'm now working on an article on this subject. If any of you have a comment or any information you'd like for me to possibly include in the article, please send me an e-mail at sandra@nwobserver.com.
Does anyone out there know how to contact any of the bike clubs in this area (or maybe someone is a member of one of these clubs)? Obviously there are large groups that travel certain roads on certain days as an organized effort. I'd like to speak to someone who is a member of one of these clubs.
Regarding the article, the cyclist obviously missed my meaning. I specifically excluded people who use bikes as a primary means of transportation. I hope he realizes there was no offense meant towards him or any other working stiff.
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Posted: Nov 14th, 2006 11:34 pm |
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| S. Smith this may be a question you could help me with. I don't see the cyclists ever going away, and I feel very strongly that a bad accident is waiting to happen. My main concern is the safety of the cyclists as well as those riding vehicles (whatever they may be). What hurdles do we face if we try to add a cylist lane, like that on Spring Garden st in GSO? At the very least a shoulder needs to be added. This is something that both the cyclists and the road rage group can probably agree on. In fact I would be surprised (if they had a little prompting) that they didn't become vocal supporters of such a thing to the town council. Regardless of how difficult it is, something must be done, no political wrangling or taxpayer cost is worth a single life.
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