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bama80
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 Posted: Apr 7th, 2006 12:56 pm
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Mine has been fine. Of course I dont have it set up to email me every time someone posts. Maybe that is causing the problems haha.



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 Posted: Apr 7th, 2006 01:04 pm
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Makes sense to me too Kris.... This is pretty much the only forum I hang out on so I don't know what goes on out in the real world, but I didn't really have a problem with the way it was before.  It's kind of wacky :shock: how we are tossed around from page to page now.... (I know, I know... he's fixin' it :D) when you post, instead of being taken to the page you posted on, you are taken back to the first page of that thread.  Also when you are in the process of posting, you can't see the comments immediately previous to yours (the latest comments) you can only see the first page of that topic again...


NOT COMPLAINING.... just making observations from the trenches.....


I'm willing to give it a go and let firecracker do his thing before staging an all out mutiny!!:D:D:D



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 Posted: Apr 7th, 2006 01:06 pm
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bama80 wrote: Mine has been fine. Of course I dont have it set up to email me every time someone posts. Maybe that is causing the problems haha.

You are not seeing the forum in REVERSE bama??????


As for the emails.... I haven't gotten but one (in my spam folder) in WEEKS!



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 Posted: Apr 7th, 2006 01:08 pm
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Hi Kris,

The preference for oldest posts to newest posts versus newest to oldest seems to depend on whether you're a "regular" poster or new to the Forum.  Those of you who have been longtime posters seem to like the way it is; those who are new don't want to have to scroll through several pages to see the latest comments on an issue.  Sometimes there are weeks in between posts on a topic, for example, and maybe something new happens to get people talking.  If you're a regular, you get an email notice and it takes you right to the end where the latest comments are.  However, if you're new to the site, you have to scroll to the end, sometimes past weeks or months of comments, to view the latest conversation. 

We'll try to keep both groups in mind as we incorporate changes to both the Web site and the Forum, knowing that sometimes in order to accommodate one, we have to inconvenience the other a little.

Feedback from "regulars" and newcomers is appreciated, so please keep it coming.

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 Posted: Apr 7th, 2006 01:31 pm
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Thanks Patti, I guess I will have to become "irregular" so that this will work for me :D

I'm not trying to argue or anything (let's call it "debate" - sounds nicer :D) but if I were not a "regular" and popped in on the forum, I wouldn't post anything without reading back to see what had already been said. I mean, I just don't think it's right to jump into a conversation without having at least SOME understanding of what has already been said.

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 Posted: Apr 7th, 2006 01:37 pm
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Kris - I agree with you. Most often topics are listed according ot the last post - which means the topic with the most recent post is at the top. As far as posts within a topic goes, I like the traditional oldest to newest sequence but maybe that's just what I am used to. Apparently we've gotten some feedback that some people want to see posts newest to oldest.

What's that saying...you can please some of the people some of the time but.....:)

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I read several forums (or I call them "message boards") across the world wide web and on all of them, while threads are presented in order of newest to oldest, messages within the thread are presented oldest to newest.

Now I am admittedly a backwards reader so I can adjust to the new format eventually but to me, it makes much more sense to have messages within a thread read from oldest to newest. For example, if you click on a thread that you haven't read in a while (or maybe, have never read), you have to scroll backward to read what you have missed.


I also read some "blogs" out across the WWW and those do usually present postings in order of newest to oldest but blogs are (usually) only posted to by one person. A blog is like reading someone's diary or journal - in which case, you probably would flip to the most recent entry first!

The forum, in my humble opinion, is NOT a blog but a "running conversation". In order to participate in the conversation, you need to know what's been said and logically (to me at least!) the conversation needs to "read" from oldest comment to newest comment.

DISCLAIMER: This is just my very humble opinion and knowledge I have from my travels out into the great world wide web! If the NWO staff wants to change it, I'll adjust (somehow:-) :D


 

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 Posted: Apr 7th, 2006 01:47 pm
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Kris McNeill wrote: Thanks Patti, I guess I will have to become "irregular" so that this will work for me :D

I'm not trying to argue or anything (let's call it "debate" - sounds nicer :D) but if I were not a "regular" and popped in on the forum, I wouldn't post anything without reading back to see what had already been said. I mean, I just don't think it's right to jump into a conversation without having at least SOME understanding of what has already been said.

JUST BRINGING THIS UP TO THE TOP TO MAKE SURE IT GETS READ ;)

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 Posted: Apr 7th, 2006 02:28 pm
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BluDev wrote:
Kris - I agree with you. Most often topics are listed according ot the last post - which means the topic with the most recent post is at the top. As far as posts within a topic goes, I like the traditional oldest to newest sequence but maybe that's just what I am used to. Apparently we've gotten some feedback that some people want to see posts newest to oldest.

What's that saying...you can please some of the people some of the time but.....:)

BluDev

 

I read several forums (or I call them "message boards") across the world wide web and on all of them, while threads are presented in order of newest to oldest, messages within the thread are presented oldest to newest.

Now I am admittedly a backwards reader so I can adjust to the new format eventually but to me, it makes much more sense to have messages within a thread read from oldest to newest. For example, if you click on a thread that you haven't read in a while (or maybe, have never read), you have to scroll backward to read what you have missed.


I also read some "blogs" out across the WWW and those do usually present postings in order of newest to oldest but blogs are (usually) only posted to by one person. A blog is like reading someone's diary or journal - in which case, you probably would flip to the most recent entry first!

The forum, in my humble opinion, is NOT a blog but a "running conversation". In order to participate in the conversation, you need to know what's been said and logically (to me at least!) the conversation needs to "read" from oldest comment to newest comment.

DISCLAIMER: This is just my very humble opinion and knowledge I have from my travels out into the great world wide web! If the NWO staff wants to change it, I'll adjust (somehow:-) :D
 



I guess the only way to make this sign work now is to quote whoever we agree with! Otherwise, we'd have to figure out how to turn him upside down!!!¡¡¡:shock: ♥♥♥

BTW: If people don't get e-mail notices of postings, they can easily get to the last post (under the way things used to be:( ) by clicking on the arrow beside the name of the person who is listed as being the last poster. ♥♥♥



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SEE??? ♥♥♥



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 Posted: Apr 7th, 2006 02:35 pm
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Where did the posting by SREDMON go that said "Firecracker go boom" ???? I know I saw it!!! ♥♥♥



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 Posted: Apr 7th, 2006 02:36 pm
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macca wrote:



SEE??? ♥♥♥

Good point, Macca!



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 Posted: Apr 7th, 2006 02:39 pm
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Macca I'm working on some updates to application....my posts will only be made to test and then deleted....

Sorry everyone but I'm trying to update this application for Patti -

Scott

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 Posted: Apr 7th, 2006 02:42 pm
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sredmon wrote:
Macca I'm working on some updates to application....my posts will only be made to test and then deleted....

Sorry everyone but I'm trying to update this application for Patti -

Scott


Just funnin' with you, Scott! I figured that was what you were doin'! ♥♥♥

I copied this one so the rest of the gang wouldn't think I was even nuttier than usual.... ♥♥♥



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 Posted: Apr 7th, 2006 02:44 pm
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Good points, Kris! Pappy can go either way (in this sense) but it would be nice if'n it would send us back to the last (most recent) post after we post somethin'. Right now it sends us back to the oldest post. It's like playin' "Sorry" with the young'uns.



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 Posted: Apr 7th, 2006 03:20 pm
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Yea, really good point about the ditto sign Macca.... I'm gonna miss that little fella...


Pappy, can you turn him upside down??? :P


Patti, are the complainers folks who have taken the time to learn how to quickly navigate to the end of the postings??  If they don't have a green arrow, there's always the little black one at the end of the string of #'s at the bottom that takes you to the last page....


SRedmon...no need to delete your posts!  Let's us know you care!!! :D



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