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Posted: Jan 9th, 2006 04:42 pm |
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| As an outside observer, she sounds too strong willed to give in to this type (internet forum, non-CC types) of pressure. I think the only people she would give in to would be her CC buddies and not just the general population.
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Posted: Jan 9th, 2006 04:53 pm |
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Sorry, I haven’t posted since my initial post. I know it might seem strange, but I have no internet at the house.
I was reading through the responses and it reminded me of point that BS or DC said in the last town council meeting. They were upset because the new survey that the town had sent out had only been sent to registered voters and should have been sent to property owners instead. So a couple of thoughts occurred to me: One, as far as BS or DC is concerned, as long as you are a renter you can have no input into how the town spends their money, seems a little elitist to me. Also you could own land in Summerfield but not live or vote in Summerfield, but could still decide how the town spent its money. Seems to me registered voters is a good way to get input on what is important to people. They should be the ones that are voting for the town council and deciding on the referendums so why should they not decide on what the town should spend its money on. I just hope more people filled out their surveys than turned out to vote.
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Posted: Jan 9th, 2006 07:18 pm |
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Beautiful Hairbrush. Just Beautiful.
Well said.
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Posted: Jan 9th, 2006 10:54 pm |
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| Well said, Hairbrush! I hope you get internet at your house soon. It's hard enough to keep up with all the doin's o' all the critters roamin' around here. There's two or three that really need watchin'.
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Posted: Jan 9th, 2006 11:27 pm |
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| Hairbrush, wow just wow!
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Posted: Jan 10th, 2006 12:43 pm |
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| yeah what I said. wow just wow. haha
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Posted: Jan 10th, 2006 03:02 pm |
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| Has everybody called or emailed the town council with your input on the park, town hall, water, and anything else you can think of?
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Posted: Jan 14th, 2006 12:06 am |
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Page 12 bottom right "Business from Council" in the Jan 13-19 issue of the NWO not only got my attention, it almost gave me a heart attack.
I'm very concerned about the role that Mr. Crawford is proposing for himself as internet/ email czar of the town of Summerfield.
"Crawford said while he could do it for free, he would need to be in control because of the equipment needed."
HELLO PEOPLE!!!!!!
If this isn't a perfect setup for abuse of power and conflict of interest then every henhouse owner in Summerfield should hire a fox to watch it.
FREE at what cost to your personal information-a firm has guidelines without a personal ax to grind.
When is the new technology committe meeting? When, Where and Time
I hope they will be open to the public and their input.
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Posted: Jan 14th, 2006 02:16 am |
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| Good one, Bubba! You're right, the Town Council needs to nip that idea in the bud! Way too many chances for him to abuse the situation and control information. Not that he would, of course. But if he could...
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Posted: Jan 14th, 2006 02:22 am |
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Park, Yes!
Town Hall, Yes!
Internet/Email Czar, NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!
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Posted: Jan 14th, 2006 02:31 am |
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Whoa Bubba! Thanks for pointing that one out....
Loved your fox watching the henhouse analogy!
Thanks for the offer DC, but no thanks.
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Posted: Jan 14th, 2006 02:31 am |
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It is unfortunate that the level of vitriol and accusations previously witnessed at Summerfield Town Council meetings has become formalized by a certain recent addition to that Council. I don't live in Summerfield, but I have followed the drama of the last 18 months regularly.
It is regrettable that Bill Trevorrow has resigned, ostensibly because he is smart enough and too old to want to deal with a constant barrage of smears and accusations that would probably persist at least until the next election. Trevorrow is not only the attorney for Summerfield, but also for Oak Ridge and Stokesdale. These three towns are all similar in size and character. They all face the same issues, and Trevorrow knows these well. Summerfield has lost valuable guidance due to the unproven smears by a certain member of that Town Council. Despite his many years of experience in municipal law, this council member apparently believes he can't do anything right. I'm sure she is relying on her own years of law school and practicing municipal law to support her position on Mr. Trevorrow's abilities and understanding of the law. Still, the State Bar of North Carolina has no record of her being a licensed attorney, and I know that it is against the law to impersonate an attorney or practice law without a license...
For the record, I am an attorney. I don't just play one on t.v., nor am I someone who apparently believes that previous experience working in a non-attorney support position for the US Attorney makes one a legal authority. In fact, even the vast majority of licensed lawyers AND judges in North Carolina are not board certified specialists in any area of the law. All of this seems to be lost on Trevorrow's chief critic who obviously believes she has a special talent for pointing out what the law is and is an expert on what it should be. I find it laughable that this person believes that the Summerfield Open Floor Speech policy should be scrapped, rewritten, and that the attorney who drafts this "new" policy should not be paid. Perhaps she hasn't gotten the word yet that involuntary servitude was banned by the fourteenth amendment. Or perhaps she believes that Trevorrow should work pro-bono for the town on a regular basis. Forget that in addition to the cost of his education, he sacrificed seven years of earning an income in order to get the education necessary to practice law. Forget that he has a family to provide for and that he has to pay for office space, staff, annual bar dues, mandatory continuing legal education every year, malpractice insurance, and clients that stiff him on paying their bills.
There are plenty of codes in North Carolina that would greatly benefit from a complete overhaul, but the Summerfield speech policy is not one of them. It can easily be corrected as Bill Trevorrow pointed out without much fanfare or upheavel. Our state legislature does this every session. Laws are constantly being tweaked to correct practical realities. The huge Bankruptcy Reform Act of 2005 is a fine example. Congress knows that unanticipated problems will arise with it, and that is why it is still subject to modification. But a modification is not a complete rewrite. The desire of this new member of the Summerfield Town Council to ignore Trevorrow's suggestions and instead start from scratch leads one to the inexorable conclusion that this person wants to draft this policy herself. Further, if she believes that Trevorrow has falsified a HUD, let her complain to the State Bar and try to prove her case. Trevorrow simply doesn't need the aggravation.
Of course, this isn't the only policy change that this person seems to believe that she alone is competent to address. Perhaps the only move that will placate her is to dissolve the town council and make Summerfield a benevolant dictatorship with her in charge. Obviously, she believes that everyone else is incompetent or corrupt. Although we are witnessing this on a micro-scale, it is certainly reminiscent of other megalomaniacal despots in history. The pattern is identifiable: Use your right to free speech to gain a following, then rewrite the speech code when you gain power to prevent others from exercising their free speech to criticize you. In fairness, this person has not made any statements that she would make the policy tighter. In fact, she has stated that she believes the current policy is too restrictive. However, some of those people that she is very closely aligned with have suggested that Summerfield can now return to civility and end the name calling now that elections are over. How convenient. Apparently, name calling is out but personal smears and damaging the professional reputation of others is in.
Although it may be too early to tell, things don't look very bright. I have always had a fondness for rebels with a cause, and I support those who question government. However, as things are progressing it appears that her agenda is not about improving government but instead it is about imposing her recalcitrant agenda on everyone else by accusing good people of bad things when she does not get her way. We reap what we sow. Perhaps it won't be too suprising if there is a stunning fall from grace in the future.
My advice to the fair minded people of Summerfield is that you do get the government you deserve. Do not allow well-minded people to be driven from public service and allow the desires of a few control your destiny. Some of the past criticisms made by her newly crowned highness are valid and warrant further discussion, but that doesn't mean they all are. Nobody on the Summerfield Town Council is right about everything. But before long, she may become that which she claims to despise- a person in power for the sole benefit of herself and her friends. Good luck. I'll be watching.
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Posted: Jan 14th, 2006 02:41 am |
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Encore! Encore!
SMU98, WHERE have you been all my.... uh I mean for the past 18 months!!!
HELP US PLEASE!
SAVE US FROM THIS PLAGUE THAT HAS INVADED OUR TOWN
Don't just watch....POST!
Oh, and a HEARTFELT
WELCOME TO THE FORUMS SMU98!!!
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Posted: Jan 14th, 2006 02:49 am |
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Thank you, SMU98! Music to Pappy's ears! Hitler and the Beer Hall Putsch, for example! Who would have thought that comical little buffoon would have amounted to anything. The only thing I question is that "benevolent" dictator part. You were being too kind.
Thanks for lending a hand. You're welcome back anytime!
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Posted: Jan 14th, 2006 03:04 am |
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Park, Yes!
Town Hall, Yes!
Internet/Email Czar, NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!
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