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Posted: Jul 16th, 2007 06:00 pm |
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With great interest I read on the Northwest Observer that Oak Ridge has enacted a noise ordinance. Does Summerfield have a noise ordinance? If so could you publish it please. If not, what is the city council doing about it??
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Posted: Jul 16th, 2007 07:16 pm |
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If the SF TC has'nt adopted an ordinace, the county does have one in place.
you can contact the Sheriff Dept at 545-5943
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Posted: Jul 16th, 2007 08:55 pm |
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In regards to noise in Summerfield, I have contacted the Sheriff department to no avail. The Summerfield council should adopt a noise ordinance just like Oak Ridge has done, they (Oak Ridge) also had the option of calling the sheriff office, but they went ahead any way with their own ordinance. You figure out why.
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Posted: Jul 16th, 2007 11:47 pm |
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Not Deaf wrote: (Oak Ridge) also had the option of calling the sheriff office, but they went ahead any way with their own ordinance. You figure out why.
To answer your last question: Probably because Oak Ridge and the Oak Ridge ordinances are light years ahead of Summerfield and Stokesdale.
Anyone who has ever had a noise problem and relied on the Guilford County Noise Ordinance and Guilford County Sheriff's Department to enforce it, knows what I am talking about. The Guilford County Noise Ordinance "ain't" worth the paper it is written on.
Correct me if I am wrong, but on top of that, I think Oak Ridge has their own zoning and ordinance enforcement officer while the other two communities don't, but rely instead on Guilford County to enforce infringements and violations. And since Guilford County only has ONE zoning enforcement officer to patrol the whole entire county, good luck if you expect any relief in ordinance enforcement.
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Posted: Jul 16th, 2007 11:53 pm |
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By the way, our so called 'leaders' in Stokesdale haven't seen fit to adopt a tree ordinance for Stokesdale either.
Maybe they will get around to it after all our trees have been cut and are gone!
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Posted: Jul 16th, 2007 11:58 pm |
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Jim,
While you are correct in your response, the Deputy provided by Stokesdale to augment coverage will agressively pursue noise complaints and shut it down if in violation of the ordinance. I would like to know the type of noise in question,
was it ball park noise? noise from a passing vehicle or a loud party? I still encourage her to Call the District 1 office and to speak with Lt. Fox to see if he can help with
her specific problem. Thanks for your input.
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Posted: Jul 17th, 2007 12:05 am |
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Good point about a tree ordinance What would you or other residents like too see?
James Attaway
Member- Stokesdale Planning board
Public Safety Committee
BTW- that would be a good topic under Stokesdale
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Posted: Jul 17th, 2007 01:04 am |
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I would like to see a tax credit to those property owners that have some acreage with woods, they contribute more to our environment than any one else. Also while we are on the subject of a tax credit, how about our veterans???
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Posted: Jul 17th, 2007 04:13 am |
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Summerfield does have their own noise ordinance that addresses unreasonably loud, disturbing and unnecessary noises Not Deaf, but I'm not sure how much (or if) it differs from the Guilford County noise ordinance.
It's still pretty much up to the individual to call the sherrif's department if they have a complaint.
(edited because I found the answer to my question on another thread. ) Last edited on Jul 17th, 2007 04:19 am by Cracker Jax
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Posted: Jul 17th, 2007 04:37 am |
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Could de Northwest Observer publish the Summerfield Noise Ordinance please. I would like to know what the council considers "unreasonably loud, disturbing and unnecessary noises"
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Posted: Jul 17th, 2007 01:06 pm |
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Not Deaf wrote: Could de Northwest Observer publish the Summerfield Noise Ordinance please. I would like to know what the council considers "unreasonably loud, disturbing and unnecessary noises"
In 1964, US Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart tried to explain "hard-core" pornography, or what is obscene, by saying, "I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced . . . but I know it when I see it . . . "
I think it is much the same with noise. Most of perhaps can't clearly define it, but we know it when we hear it. Which makes a determination of what constitutes noise somewhat subjective and open to opinion, thus making it somewhat difficult to enforce or prosecute except in egregious cases.
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Posted: Jul 17th, 2007 02:12 pm |
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I think Jim's right Not deaf.... Enforcement of any noise ordinance is pretty subjective. Pretty much depends on what the offense is and who happens to answer the call.
Maybe the NWO will publish parts of it, but it's pretty wordy. If not, you can get a copy of it from Town Hall since they don't have it up on the website yet.
Meanwhile, here are the definitions you asked for from SF's ordinance.
(1) Unreasonably Loud - Noise which is substantially incompatible with the time and location where created to the extent that it creates an actual or imminent interference with peace or good order.
(2) Disturbing - Noise which is perceived by a person of ordinary sensibilities as interrupting the normal peace and calm of the area.
(3) Unnecessary - Any excessive or unusually loud sound or any sound which is of such character, intensity and duration as to disturb the peace and quiet of any neighborhood or which disturbs, injures or endangers the comfort, repose, health, peace or safety of any person, and being a type of sound which could be lessened or otherwise controlled by the maker without undly restricting his conduct.
Then it goes on to explain the factors to be used to determine if a noise fits into these categories. Factors such as time of day, proximity to homes, and whether or not the noise is recurrent, intermittent or constant etc.....
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Posted: Jul 17th, 2007 02:30 pm |
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Crackah, do you happen to know whether the Summerfield Noise Ordinance has any special exemptions for spousal snoring?
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Posted: Jul 17th, 2007 02:57 pm |
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Too funny Jim.
I think if you'll re-read the definitions above, you'll find that spousal snoring will fit into any of those categories.....
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