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Posted: Apr 13th, 2007 08:59 pm |
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macca- an outsider does change, (i.e make it to all the meetings) because if I am selected to the board I will take on this new responsibility knowing I am responsible to the citizens. When I say I am going to do something- I do it. 
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Posted: Apr 14th, 2007 01:39 pm |
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Sorry I meant Don, not Mike (my error)
Can't say I'd mind seeing you sitting up there at the head table, given some of the names I'm hearing that are throwing their hats in the ring right now 
I am pretty convinced you are pro-Summerfield and would not subscribe to the antics Summerfield has recently been subject to.........so that's a good thing.
HOWEVER.........in the event you are not the "chosen one", then please don't do the submarine dive and disappear until the November campaigning starts. Stay public and give us a chance to get to know "the real you".
I've read your comments about "give me a call". Campaigning is not about the voters chasing down the candidates for a chunk of their time. It's about the candidates being available for the public, shaking their hands, eating fried chicken, standing outside the Community Center during breaks slapping backs, people recognizing you in Food Dawg talking about the weather, etc.
You mention you volunteer elsewhere........Kudos to you, that group recognizes you, but not sure if that's the same group that'll be voting for you in Summerfield.
Nuff said.
Last edited on Apr 15th, 2007 12:58 am by Gestalt
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FatPappy
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Posted: Apr 14th, 2007 01:42 pm |
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Whether or not a person is an "outsider" is less important to me than what they have on the inside.
We need whoever that person is to be someone with leadership experience, wisdom, maturity, and most of all character.
We need someone who most definitely has a life and is willing to share their life's experience for the benefit of their town.
We need someone who understands that leadership and bullying are two distinctly different things.
We need someone who understands that strength of character has nothing to do with strength of lung power.
We need someone who understands that ideas are not bullets to fire at opponents but they should be steps to lead us ALL somewhere better.
We need someone who understands that the enemy of your enemy is not automatically your friend, no matter how they voted on that one particular issue.
We need someone who can see past the end of their nose to understand the spirit of the law, not just the letter.
We need someone who can work with other people for the benefit of all the people.
We need someone who understands that they represent the town 24/7, whether they are sitting in front of the people and the press at a meeting or sitting alone at home.
We need someone who knows how to praise, not just accuse.
We need someone who tries to inspire participation of the people, not inspire fear of participation.
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FatPappy
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Posted: Apr 14th, 2007 01:44 pm |
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| Psst...Gestalt, you addressed that to Mike, but I think you mean Don.
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Cracker Jax
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Posted: Apr 14th, 2007 03:00 pm |
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FatPappy wrote: Whether or not a person is an "outsider" is less important to me than what they have on the inside.
We need whoever that person is to be someone with leadership experience, wisdom, maturity, and most of all character.
We need someone who most definitely has a life and is willing to share their life's experience for the benefit of their town.
We need someone who understands that leadership and bullying are two distinctly different things.
We need someone who understands that strength of character has nothing to do with strength of lung power.
We need someone who understands that ideas are not bullets to fire at opponents but they should be steps to lead us ALL somewhere better.
We need someone who understands that the enemy of your enemy is not automatically your friend, no matter how they voted on that one particular issue.
We need someone who can see past the end of their nose to understand the spirit of the law, not just the letter.
We need someone who can work with other people for the benefit of all the people.
We need someone who understands that they represent the town 24/7, whether they are sitting in front of the people and the press at a meeting or sitting alone at home.
We need someone who knows how to praise, not just accuse.
We need someone who tries to inspire participation of the people, not inspire fear of participation.
Very well stated Pappy!
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Posted: Apr 14th, 2007 10:19 pm |
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Pappy,
I agree with Crackah', very well stated. All points emphasized. I must commend you on your grammer. You must be takin' night classes!
We all need to move on to the real issues here, we have many...
I, personally, believe we need a leader that can make the hard decisions without a personal agenda.
Sawdust
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Baseball Buddy
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Posted: Apr 15th, 2007 12:19 am |
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Gestalt
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Posted: Apr 15th, 2007 12:59 am |
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FatPappy wrote: Psst...Gestalt, you addressed that to Mike, but I think you mean Don.
You are 100% correct Pappy, my blunder.....I changed it above.
Thank You
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Posted: Apr 15th, 2007 01:00 am |
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FatPappy wrote: Whether or not a person is an "outsider" is less important to me than what they have on the inside.
We need whoever that person is to be someone with leadership experience, wisdom, maturity, and most of all character.
We need someone who most definitely has a life and is willing to share their life's experience for the benefit of their town.
We need someone who understands that leadership and bullying are two distinctly different things.
We need someone who understands that strength of character has nothing to do with strength of lung power.
We need someone who understands that ideas are not bullets to fire at opponents but they should be steps to lead us ALL somewhere better.
We need someone who understands that the enemy of your enemy is not automatically your friend, no matter how they voted on that one particular issue.
We need someone who can see past the end of their nose to understand the spirit of the law, not just the letter.
We need someone who can work with other people for the benefit of all the people.
We need someone who understands that they represent the town 24/7, whether they are sitting in front of the people and the press at a meeting or sitting alone at home.
We need someone who knows how to praise, not just accuse.
We need someone who tries to inspire participation of the people, not inspire fear of participation.
Very eloquent Pappy, and very well stated !!!
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Posted: Apr 15th, 2007 01:50 am |
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I started to read some of the replys since by initial post on this topic. First, I would like to thank everyone for responding. Based upon some of the comments I may not have the breath of experience & wisdom that some have indicated that they are looking for. All I can say is that I am honest, sincere and concerned about the community!
Secondly, some of the discussion, so far, has focused on what they want in a council member. These qualifications are very important but unfortunately not applicable at this time. They will be very applicable leading up to the next election. My view is that the council will decide on whoever they wish to fill the vacancy. This personal qualifications can not be critiqued before this appointment, except by council, therefore the issue is mute. We, the community, should be focusing on topics, issues and concerns and work on these! I hope that did not come across as arogant... not my intention.
I am relatively young and in the political world very inexperienced but I do not worry myself about that... I want to work on fixing the town and focus on the various devisive issues that we (residents of Summerfield) all face.
Thank you
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Posted: Apr 15th, 2007 03:05 am |
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Much obliged, y'all.
(Hey, Sawdust, Pappy's a graduate o' grammar school, ya know. Hee hee.)
Lovettrp, I hear what yer a-sayin', an' I agree that it's time, past time even, to start fixin' this town. An' while we as individuals may not have much direct input in the upcomin' vacancy selection, I b'lieve what we're a-doin' right here an' right now on this here forum is as much a part o' the fixin' process as anything. It ain't the whole thang but it's a bigger part than some people give it credit fer. People expressin' themselves, talkin' it out. There's power there! Yer ol' Pappy can feel it!
My shoppin' list o' qualifications weren't meant to be a absolute, just a target to shoot at. People ain't perfect. "Honest, sincere and concerned about the community" is some purty good qualifications.
Yes, we also do need to be talkin' 'bout issues an' concerns. To me the overwhelmin' issue right now is findin' somebody who can fill this vacancy with a healin' presence, or at least a non-destructive presence, so we can get the wagons outta this swamp we been stuck in an' get on with town bidness. Now by healin' presence I don't mean somebody who's just gonna go along with the rest an' never offer anythang new. I mean somebody who can respect the office an' respect the people an' respect the process enough to keep their personal feelin's second.
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Posted: Apr 15th, 2007 12:51 pm |
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| Are the applications open to public viewing at Town Hall. I am knowledgable of some of these applicants, others I have never heard of until commenting on the forum. I am aware that the decision is not open to the residents but I would like to have more history on the potential applicant filling the seat.
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Posted: Apr 15th, 2007 12:59 pm |
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Good question, Grits. Accordin' to the new town website "Applications are due by Friday April 20th delivered to Summerfield Town Hall. Town Council intends to appoint a citizen to the seat by May 1st. All applicants will be notified of any special meetings called to discuss or make the appointment to the seat. Your application is a public record and can and may be requested by any person or the media for review. The Council will sit in open session to discuss and select the new council member."
Sounds like you can go down yonder and they'll let you have a copy.
If anybody gets a chance, I'm sure folks wouldn't mind seein' that list o' names on here.
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Posted: Apr 15th, 2007 01:11 pm |
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| and what are Town Hall's hours again?
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Posted: Apr 15th, 2007 01:17 pm |
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| Monday through Friday 8:30 - 4:30, I think.
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